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#1 NoodleFighter
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@sakaixx said:

Everything runs on AMD anyway. Intel, Nvidia and ARM manufacturers needs to be competitive on this platform for us to see true innovations.

The MSI Claw uses Intel iGPU and CPUs. Intel is our best bet currently in giving AMD a challenge in the handheld space since Nvidia does not make CPUs. Intel also has a head start on AMD when it comes to AI tech and AI upscaling. Intel XeSS is a better option to use than FSR image upscaling for AMD users and AMD users don't even get the accelerated enhancements that intel GPUs get exclusively yet XeSS will look and perform better on AMD GPUs than AMD's own FSR 2/3. There are rumors of Nvidia partnering with MediaTek to make an Nvidia an ARM based SoC but we need to see how well it does in performance and energy consumption.

Also we are still getting competition between the PC OEMs using AMD hardware. Asus has slashed the prices on the ROG Ally to the point it is on sale nearly 24/7 and basically a price drop. Lenovo has started frequently putting the Legion Go perpetually on sale as well with prices that match the Ally.

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@girlusocrazy said:

@sakaixx: nvidia is more power hungry and doesn't make an x86 CPU/GPU in one that can be flexible for power/performance on a battery. Maybe there can be an nvidia APU that would be suitable but I'm not sure if Windows is available and games would be supported. They could always try something with Proton and x86 emulation. Maybe Intel can do something? I don't know if it would be as good as the AMD stuff in this range but they should try. Maybe there are already some intel based handhelds.

There is a big shift in Windows supporting ARM. Windows will have built in emulation/conversion to get x64/x86 applications to work on ARM. Here is a demonstration of the Snapdragon Elite playing demanding PC games. An Nvidia PC handheld is still a possibility if the Razer Edge from 2012/2013 is anything to go by. An Nvidia APU with a GPU die a bit weaker than the RTX 2050 may be a possible reality.

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@girlusocrazy: They just announced that it is going to launch with an AMD 7040/Z1 APU but will later have an advanced model with Ryzen 300 AI which is Strix Point. I will definitely hold out for the Ryzen 300 AI version since that will be the real generational jump in performance for handheld PCs and the current APU they plan to launch with is weaker than me Legion Go.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Loving all these options. Loving how all this is centered around PC, where actual, real competition exists and not the fake bullshit we see in petty console wars.

@girlusocrazy said:

Having one that is modular and open complete with CAD files sounds interesting, but it would be cool to go even further and introduce a new portable form factor for mainboards with APU slots, coolers, and accessory cards.

That might be the feature that get's me involved with mobile gaming.

I'd love to see the "mod'ability" that we see with desktops. I wouldn't even mind if it was a little bulkier as a result, as long as it can fit in a backpack or satchel I'm OK with some extra heft.

If LPCAAM gets more adopted we might see a motherboard form factor standard for handheld PCs. I feel like buying the XPG Nia because it seems like a sweet device for that alone with its modular features. I hope they make a model with touchpads and a bigger screen. All the PC handhelds are mix and match when it comes to features. We need some that hit all the checkboxes.

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The PC handheld scene is starting to get really competitive. ADATA's XPG Nia will be a fully modular device that has RAM slots and motherboards being swappable. It will have CAD files released on launch so people can 3D print their own modifications. It has a 7" screen that can be adjusted to an angle so you can hold the rest of the device flat like a controller but still have the screen at optimal viewing angles. It has eye tracking technology for things such as logins with FaceIDs. ADATA are aiming for the XPG Nia to be between $500 to $600 in price. I love what they're doing and want to buy one just for support even though I already have my Lenovo Legion Go.

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The Zotac Zone is basically a Steam Deck but with windows and a beefier APU. It is the first major brand to have a handheld with touchpads on both sides.

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The Zotac Zone will have the Hawk Point APU 8840u with 16GB LPDDR5X-7500 RAM, 7 inch 1080p 120hz AMOLED and 48.5wh battery. The launch price is rumored to be $800. If the screen was at an inch bigger

Asus ROG Ally X will have an 80wh battery with up to 24GBs of LPDDR5X 7500 RAM with the same Z1 Extreme chipset for $800. It's a shame that Asus has become a scummy company because so many people would have been willing to buy the ROG Ally X.

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MSI will be releasing a newer version of the Claw in Q3 of 2024. It will use Lunar Lake chipset. The Msi Claw 8 AI+ is what it is called. It will have an 80whr battery and have Fallout themed one.

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Elden Ring, I am getting bored of Days Gone. The game is too long, the story is drip fed and the gameplay loop isn't fun enough to be having the game go over 20-30 hours in playtime.

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is Playstation even a Japanese brand at this point. They're relying on China and South Korea to carry them.

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#7  Edited By NoodleFighter
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Two more PC manufacturers are joining the handheld gaming PC market. Zotac and Adata will be revealing their handhelds next week at Computex 2024. Looks like Asus may get their thunder stolen.

The Zotac Zone will have a 7 inch AMOLED screen, hall effect joysticks and triggers. The triggers will also have sensitivity adjustments similar to Xbox Elite and Dualsesnse adaptive triggers. The apu is said to be AMD. hopefully it will be strix point.

not much is known about the xpg nia other than it will use eye tracking technology.

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seems kinda effed up that Hi Fi Rush shows up in humble choice right after Microsoft axed the studio

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Finished Doom Eternal Ancient Gods 1 & 2 and Warframe's The New War.

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I am looking forward to #BLUD

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