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QuakeCon 07: id Rage-ing on PC, Mac, 360, PS3

Doom-maker crafting all-new driving-shooting actioner set in open-world, postapocalyptic wasteland.

In June at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC), id Software cofounder and chief technical officer John Carmack took the stage alongside Apple CEO Steve Jobs to show off a technology demo. Cryptically titled "id Tech 5," the clip showed a scene reminiscent of Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Dune buggies raced through a canyon dotted by what looked like postapocalyptic settlements, and then the camera zoomed inside a hut for a first-person conversation with a merchant straight out of Bartertown.

Rage Trailer

Check out John Carmack's newest game engine in action.

At the WWDC, Carmack promised to have the same demo--which features over 20GB of texture information--running in real time on the PC, Macintosh, Xbox 360, and PlayStation 3 at the E3 Media & Business Summit in July. However, by the time the scaled-down expo was done, there was no sign of the demonstration anywhere.

Today, though, id Tech 5 surfaced. Behind closed doors at QuakeCon 2007 in Dallas, id CEO Todd Hollenshead revealed that the demo was actually the first look at Rage, an all-new IP. As mentioned at WWDC, the game is in simultaneous development for the PC, Mac, PS3, and 360, and will use the second generation of id's "MegaTexture" technology. The game will be come on a single Blu-ray Disc for PS3 owners, while all other versions will require two DVDs.

Speaking to a small collection of game journalists, Hollenshead explained that Rage was a deliberate departure from the corridor shooters that made id famous. Its gameplay will be "60 percent shooting and 40 percent driving" between villages in a postapocalyptic wasteland. Its setting will be a far future that has seen civilization decimated after a comet smashes into the Earth. Players will aid the villages' inhabitants in fighting both an oppressive regime and various mutants and monsters roaming the wasteland.

According to Rage lead designer Tim Willits, the game's title has a threefold meaning. "You're fighting against a postapocalyptic government, so you're raging against the machine," he said. "Then there's driving combat, so there's road rage." Willits also said that "you can't spell garage without 'rage,'" and then revealed the game will have shops where players can extensively customize their vehicles.

Rage will have open-world elements, allowing players to exit their vehicles and explore caves and other parts of the landscape. The game will feature a single-player campaign that will clock in around 20 hours, but will allow individual missions to be played in co-op mode. No other multiplayer details were announced.

In another major departure from the infamously gory Doom and Quake games, id is developing Rage with a T-for-Teen rating in mind. As with all games from the famously reclusive studio, it will ship "when it's done."

During a presentation at the QuakeCon keynote, Carmack quashed hopes of a Wii version of the game, saying that the id Tech 5 engine could not be ported to Nintendo's latest system. Nintendo fans needn't be too crestfallen, however, as Carmack told reporters earlier in the day he'd be happy to make Wii games, and has toyed with the idea of making a Quake Arena-themed game for the DS. There's nothing official about such a project yet, but Carmack said he likes the machine's Wi-Fi and game-sharing capabilities.

Carmack also described his "inverted" approach to developing new intellectual properties to reporters, saying id started Orcs and Elves on a cell phone, and then moved it up to the DS. If it works there, Carmack said he'd like to bring it to the Wii as well. Such an approach to building new properties makes sense, Carmack said, because the initial investment put at risk is much smaller.

226 Comments

  • andrew_ribbons

    Posted Mar 6, 2009 3:48 pm PT

    This...sounds incredibly AWESOME! O_O

  • smithy1185

    Posted Aug 11, 2007 7:31 pm PT

    Wow, can't wait for Rage!

  • frankeyser

    Posted Aug 8, 2007 11:31 am PT

    anyone else think the new game engine was not to impressive? i mean really. it looked like a supped up doom 3 game. i am not overly impressed. and why when i listed to the interview did he state that rage could not be ported to the wii but the id tech 5 engine could?
    also who cares abotu swtiching disks? i mean serisoulsy i have been doing it for years now. never really bugged me. i guess some people are just really lazy.

  • willripyouanew1

    Posted Aug 8, 2007 9:25 am PT

    Great technology crapy game concept.

  • pathogenb

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 5:41 pm PT

    "EddyG0RD0 FPS on 2 discs."

    who cares? ever play a GameCube game on two discs? oh no, you have to swap discs after 10 hours. NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! meh.

  • Cra2y

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 4:40 pm PT

    imo, Epic is the new leader in game engines. , and the BF2 engine (whatever engine). Time will tell when ET:QW and UT3 come out. Crysis will probably out do both though

  • Cra2y

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 4:29 pm PT

    And you cant spell stupid without id. The tech demo 5, looked very doom 3 enigne. Also, lets here of Carmacks plans on physics, says current vid cards can produce the same physics as a add on physx card. Lets see it then.

  • madder128

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 3:28 pm PT

    This looks sweet, this is the closest thing i'll get to being Mad Max in a game so i'm happy. Also great to see its not a sequel in one of there on going franchises such as Doom and Quake.
    "i'll drive that Tanker"

  • jamesfffan

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 2:52 pm PT

    every fanboy is sad

  • zeus_gb

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 12:46 pm PT

    Another impressive John Carmack engine.

  • MrAuthority

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 10:43 am PT

    P.S even though bluray can fit more data on it the PS3 OS takes up 70MB (around that) 360 only 20 (again around that) so textures ARE compressed more on the PS3 than on the 360's - in response to what Slash_out said

  • MrAuthority

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 10:33 am PT

    annoys me gamespot say that the id Tech 5 engine could not be ported to nintendos system (wii)- what he infact said is Rage can not be ported but in fact Tech 5 COULD be ported .... NOT Rage - thats what John said in an interview to another site.

  • WillyMann

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 10:19 am PT

    hahaha, Carmack says " Even though the PC version may be close to completion, the 360 may be a week behind, and the PS3 may be a few months behind!" lolol

  • Slash_out

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 9:13 am PT

    It isn't the first time game came out on multiple cd/dvd -_-.
    Why the fuss on something so irrevelant?
    Some FF had 4 cd's ! And still it was some of the best games ... lot's of game where on 2 dvd on PS2 as well... Like Grandia 3, or shadow hearts for example. More Dvd is suposed to be a bad thing? I rememebr a time, when lot's of player where excited of having more cd's on a game, and where enjoying the nice package that came with it.
    And the price is not changing for the extra dvds. The quality is probably the same as the Blueray version too, since they will not compress the texture or decrease their quality as they will need one more DVD to store it.

  • lowenergycycle

    Posted Aug 7, 2007 1:33 am PT

    @djsaskdja
    Well said. It really isn't such a big deal. Nobody ever berated FFVII for coming on multiple discs on SONY'S PS1. They were too busy enjoying the damn game like they were suposed to be doing.

    @imprezawrx500
    Oh please. You're pathetic. Stop using such an irrelevant point to fight an even more irrelevant "war". People like you (and you all know who you are) are simply boring. Get over yourselves. You are not big or clever. You are quite the opposite.

  • djsaskdja

    Posted Aug 6, 2007 9:46 pm PT

    Well I guess if you want to pay 200 dollars more just to get the game on 1 disk be my guest I guess but seriously it isn't that big of a deal jeez.

  • imprezawrx500

    Posted Aug 6, 2007 5:40 pm PT

    dvd9 is enough huh?
    "id's "MegaTexture" technology. The game will be come on a single Blu-ray Disc for PS3 owners, while all other versions will require two DVDs."

  • EddyG0RD0

    Posted Aug 6, 2007 5:17 pm PT

    Blu-Ray is the future , just like DVD was for CD.

  • Corrosion

    Posted Aug 6, 2007 2:08 pm PT

    Those little Wiis.... Hehehe.

  • slipshoddoa

    Posted Aug 6, 2007 1:12 pm PT

    Funny how everyone is focusing on the Blu-ray vs DVD argument when the most technologically advanced versoin will be on the PC and that will defintely be on DVD. Did it occur to anyone that they probably are going to have single player on one DVD and multiplayer on another? Also, check IGN's video if you want to hear Carmack himself talk about how it is invariably the PS3 version that holds everyone back. He specifically talks about the PS3 having less available RAM (about 100 MB) due to Sony's bloated OS and the split memory architecture which means a lot of data is duplicated between main memory and video memory.

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