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  • vic8379
     
    Jun 28, 2008 4:33 am PT
    So me and some buddies got a chance to play with one of the developers(jespar) last night, and we were sure to ask a few questions. I know there has been crap for updates on whats new with the game, so I used this as a great oppurtunity to get answers to questions that are being asked alot.

    Boosting- It was actually funny as hell. The first game we joined, we all got split up. One of our guys got on a squad with the developer, and me and my other friend were thrown on a squad with people freaking boosting. Boosting in a game with a developer in it..lol. So we all left the game and formed back up. We asked him when the hell all this boosting is going to end. We got good news. He said a server side patch is going to come monday or tuesday to clear it up. We couldn't get any confirmation really about the leaderboards, but he did say something about XBL Customer service and all the people who are found boosting are getting warnings. Hell, atleast it's a start.

    Clan support- He was very positive about this. He said it's definitely something they are talkig about, and they can and will implement it into the game if enough people want it. He was very, very, positive about this. I would definitely expect to see this come into the game sometime in the future.

    Full team chat- Sadly, it was mostly bad news here. He said that one the senior producer had decided 4 was going to be the number. Problems with push to talk, and any kind of full team chat were lag, harrasment, just idiots, and it would be less coordinated. They found it worked out best the way it was. I think lag was definitely the big issue stopping this from happening though.

    Hope this helped alot of people, and answered alot of questions out there.

    Proof (picsnao)-
    In the squad menu= http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/vic8379/dev2.jpg
    Got his tags!= http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/vic8379/dev1.jpg
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    So me and some buddies got a chance to play with one of the developers(jespar) last night, and we were sure to ask a few questions. I know there has been crap for updates on whats new with the game, so I used this as a great oppurtunity to get answers to questions that are being asked alot.

    Boosting- It was actually funny as hell. The first game we joined, we all got split up. One of our guys got on a squad with the developer, and me and my other friend were thrown on a squad with people freaking boosting. Boosting in a game with a developer in it..lol. So we all left the game and formed back up. We asked him when the hell all this boosting is going to end. We got good news. He said a server side patch is going to come monday or tuesday to clear it up. We couldn't get any confirmation really about the leaderboards, but he did say something about XBL Customer service and all the people who are found boosting are getting warnings. Hell, atleast it's a start.

    Clan support- He was very positive about this. He said it's definitely something they are talkig about, and they can and will implement it into the game if enough people want it. He was very, very, positive about this. I would definitely expect to see this come into the game sometime in the future.

    Full team chat- Sadly, it was mostly bad news here. He said that one the senior producer had decided 4 was going to be the number. Problems with push to talk, and any kind of full team chat were lag, harrasment, just idiots, and it would be less coordinated. They found it worked out best the way it was. I think lag was definitely the big issue stopping this from happening though.

    Hope this helped alot of people, and answered alot of questions out there.

    Proof (picsnao)-
    In the squad menu= http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/vic8379/dev2.jpg
    Got his tags!= http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c12/vic8379/dev1.jpg
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  • vic8379
     
    Jun 28, 2008 4:37 am PT
    Also, he said they are on the EA forums all the time. Go there to voice your opinion, and all that.
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    Also, he said they are on the EA forums all the time. Go there to voice your opinion, and all that.
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  • Shotdown210
     
    Jun 28, 2008 4:51 am PT
    Thanks for all the info. I just keep wondering how pressing a button to talk to people would cause lag. I mean come on. We NEED full team chat. "Harrassment" well every other game has it. It's just what happens when you play with immature people. Is there any chance they will put this in the game? BF2:MC was amazing and the full team chat was on the reasons why it was so good.
    Thanks for all the info. I just keep wondering how pressing a button to talk to people would cause lag. I mean come on. We NEED full team chat. "Harrassment" well every other game has it. It's just what happens when you play with immature people. Is there any chance they will put this in the game? BF2:MC was amazing and the full team chat was on the reasons why it was so good.
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  • ScarecrowES
     
    Jun 28, 2008 5:04 am PT
    Well, what he means is that every bit of audio that is sent over Live during a match is using up a little of the bandwidth of the server. The server only has so much bandwidth with which to send all of the information necessary to keep the game going and make it functional. Allowing full voice chat reduces the total amount of bandwidth that can be used to send game related data back and forth. When the bandwidth available is less than the total amount of information that players need to send and receive, you get lag.

    Maybe they have found that the optimal number of players in a squad to allow full voice communication without causing any sort of impact to game performance is 4. However, I think that adding proximity chat and a whole team push to talk system will have little effect on lag, as in those cases, I do not think there will likely be more than 4 players attempting to talk on a team of 12 at any given time.
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    Well, what he means is that every bit of audio that is sent over Live during a match is using up a little of the bandwidth of the server. The server only has so much bandwidth with which to send all of the information necessary to keep the game going and make it functional. Allowing full voice chat reduces the total amount of bandwidth that can be used to send game related data back and forth. When the bandwidth available is less than the total amount of information that players need to send and receive, you get lag.

    Maybe they have found that the optimal number of players in a squad to allow full voice communication without causing any sort of impact to game performance is 4. However, I think that adding proximity chat and a whole team push to talk system will have little effect on lag, as in those cases, I do not think there will likely be more than 4 players attempting to talk on a team of 12 at any given time.
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  • Shotdown210
     
    Jun 28, 2008 5:10 am PT
    Thank you for your wisdom =). But ya I really hope they decide to add full team chat, it's not really a team based game if you can't even ask for a ride. =/
    Thank you for your wisdom =). But ya I really hope they decide to add full team chat, it's not really a team based game if you can't even ask for a ride. =/
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  • Falcan
     
    Jun 28, 2008 5:21 am PT
    All I want is proximity chat so that I can call over to the teammate in front of me who just happens not to be in my squad to heal me or warn him of enimies up on the hill to the left...
    All I want is proximity chat so that I can call over to the teammate in front of me who just happens not to be in my squad to heal me or warn him of enimies up on the hill to the left...
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  • Shotdown210
     
    Jun 28, 2008 5:38 am PT
    Would like proximity chat, would love team chat, will cry with 4 person chat. I mean come on when the squad system doesn't even work completely (lose your friends while joining a game, I even do a mic check while it's loading to see if I lost someone) what are you gonna do when your friend doesn't get put into your squad? Leave a join another game like I have to do sometimes. And why would it cause so much lag? Halo 3 and CoD 4, and most other games can do it, yes I realize in BC you can blow stuff up and everything looks amazing which can cause lag, but can't they just get a better server or something? (Sorry for being somewhat unknowledgeable when it come to this stuff) Please give me full team, or proximity, or push to talk, or something. I can't deal with 4 person chat when usually no one in the squad even talks!!!!
    Would like proximity chat, would love team chat, will cry with 4 person chat. I mean come on when the squad system doesn't even work completely (lose your friends while joining a game, I even do a mic check while it's loading to see if I lost someone) what are you gonna do when your friend doesn't get put into your squad? Leave a join another game like I have to do sometimes. And why would it cause so much lag? Halo 3 and CoD 4, and most other games can do it, yes I realize in BC you can blow stuff up and everything looks amazing which can cause lag, but can't they just get a better server or something? (Sorry for being somewhat unknowledgeable when it come to this stuff) Please give me full team, or proximity, or push to talk, or something. I can't deal with 4 person chat when usually no one in the squad even talks!!!!
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  • Super_Tom
     
    Jun 28, 2008 5:41 am PT
    Should have asked him where to find pics you upload from the game!
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    Should have asked him where to find pics you upload from the game!
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  • vic8379
     
    Jun 28, 2008 12:14 pm PT
    'Should have asked him where to find pics you upload from the game!"

    Ahh I completely forgot about that! sorry.=(
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    'Should have asked him where to find pics you upload from the game!"

    Ahh I completely forgot about that! sorry.=(
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  • Phoenixdive
     
    Jun 28, 2008 12:42 pm PT
    Problems with push to talk, and any kind of full team chat were lag, harrasment, just idiots, and it would be less coordinated

    Nothing a "quick mute" option wouldn't fix.
    Problems with push to talk, and any kind of full team chat were lag, harrasment, just idiots, and it would be less coordinated

    Nothing a "quick mute" option wouldn't fix.
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  • samdenish
     
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    Jun 28, 2008 12:59 pm PT
    Wow, great, thanks for the info Vic. Too bad about the full team chat, but I guess I can understand, and the game is really fun as it is. Hopefully they do some clan support.

    Thanks for posting this. It's nice to see a thought out, organized, relevant post on a Gamefaqs message board. The world must be ending.

    --SammyD
    Wow, great, thanks for the info Vic. Too bad about the full team chat, but I guess I can understand, and the game is really fun as it is. Hopefully they do some clan support.

    Thanks for posting this. It's nice to see a thought out, organized, relevant post on a Gamefaqs message board. The world must be ending.

    --SammyD
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  • expandingeye
     
    Jun 28, 2008 1:08 pm PT

    Phoenixdive wrote:
    Problems with push to talk, and any kind of full team chat were lag, harrasment, just idiots, and it would be less coordinated

    Nothing a "quick mute" option wouldn't fix.

    This makes me so angry. What kind of answer is that for no voice chat. Its totally ridiculous that you cant even play with more than 3 friends. I GET harrassed in teams of 4 too when playing by myself, opening chat wouldnt stop that. Its just some **** excuse. I wish i had seen a developer, i probably would have got banned arguing with his reasoning.

    I tried to go on the ea official forums to complain and when i logged in it errored and now i cant even get onto them to post or view.

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    [QUOTE="Phoenixdive"]Problems with push to talk, and any kind of full team chat were lag, harrasment, just idiots, and it would be less coordinated

    Nothing a "quick mute" option wouldn't fix.[/QUOTE]

    This makes me so angry. What kind of answer is that for no voice chat. Its totally ridiculous that you cant even play with more than 3 friends. I GET harrassed in teams of 4 too when playing by myself, opening chat wouldnt stop that. Its just some **** excuse. I wish i had seen a developer, i probably would have got banned arguing with his reasoning.

    I tried to go on the ea official forums to complain and when i logged in it errored and now i cant even get onto them to post or view.

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  • vic8379
     
    Jun 28, 2008 2:57 pm PT
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  • siskokidd
     
    Jun 28, 2008 3:09 pm PT
    I have a great idea. Squad chat without push to talk and full team chat with push to talk and have proximity chat. This way if you rollin with another squad you can proximty with them and if you want a grand scale strategy, you can coordinate all three squads to do what i necessary.

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    I have a great idea. Squad chat without push to talk and full team chat with push to talk and have proximity chat. This way if you rollin with another squad you can proximty with them and if you want a grand scale strategy, you can coordinate all three squads to do what i necessary.
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  • RangerReid
     
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    Jun 28, 2008 9:23 pm PT
    Tks for the info. I think it would be better if at least they put a 12 player matchmaking instead of only 4, then put 3 squads randomly so i can play with all my friends in the same team. That would fix a lot of talk problems cause when you have your whole clan in the same team actually you dont need to speak with everyone. You can relly on your teammates to get the job done. And that would definitly end the TEAM KILLING that is something that is killing this game from the begining. AND PLEASE PLEAS AT LEAST LEARN SOMETHING FROM HALO IF I GET TEAM KILLED PLZ LET ME HOLD THE X BUTTON TO KICK THE PLAYER OUT THE GAME, THAT WOULD BE EXTREMLY USEFULL SO THE TEAM KILLER CANT ENTER THE SAME GAME ANYMORE. I HOPE THEY GIVE THIS GAME THE SUPPORT IT DESERVE AND DONT TROW IT AWAY LIKE THEY DO WITH BATTLEFIELD 2 MODERN COMBAT ON 360 (NEVER SEE DOWNLOAD MAPS) (Srry if i write something wrong this English is not my first language) =)
    Tks for the info. I think it would be better if at least they put a 12 player matchmaking instead of only 4, then put 3 squads randomly so i can play with all my friends in the same team. That would fix a lot of talk problems cause when you have your whole clan in the same team actually you dont need to speak with everyone. You can relly on your teammates to get the job done. And that would definitly end the TEAM KILLING that is something that is killing this game from the begining. AND PLEASE PLEAS AT LEAST LEARN SOMETHING FROM HALO IF I GET TEAM KILLED PLZ LET ME HOLD THE X BUTTON TO KICK THE PLAYER OUT THE GAME, THAT WOULD BE EXTREMLY USEFULL SO THE TEAM KILLER CANT ENTER THE SAME GAME ANYMORE. I HOPE THEY GIVE THIS GAME THE SUPPORT IT DESERVE AND DONT TROW IT AWAY LIKE THEY DO WITH BATTLEFIELD 2 MODERN COMBAT ON 360 (NEVER SEE DOWNLOAD MAPS) (Srry if i write something wrong this English is not my first language) =)
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  • Veecha
     
    Jun 28, 2008 9:43 pm PT
    Thank you for your wisdom =). But ya I really hope they decide to add full team chat, it's not really a team based game if you can't even ask for a ride. =/

    A good idea to deal with this without team chat is to have baked in radio commends requesting for stuff like rides, medic, and repair. Which they could have assigned to the digipad since it's not being used. I've already made a request for it on their forums but DICE clearly don't listen since they didn't even put something as simple as a southpaw option in, which was requested since the beta.
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    Thank you for your wisdom =). But ya I really hope they decide to add full team chat, it's not really a team based game if you can't even ask for a ride. =/

    A good idea to deal with this without team chat is to have baked in radio commends requesting for stuff like rides, medic, and repair. Which they could have assigned to the digipad since it's not being used. I've already made a request for it on their forums but DICE clearly don't listen since they didn't even put something as simple as a southpaw option in, which was requested since the beta.
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  • vic8379
     
    Jun 28, 2008 11:34 pm PT
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  • OMGWTFBBQ32
     
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    Jun 28, 2008 11:37 pm PT
    Hey TC, could you do me a favour? I want to ask a dev a question and it's driving me crazy.

    Could you ask the dev if they intentionally made it so that landmines disappear after you get killed, or is it a glitch?

    I'm a full time Demolition player, and I really want to know if it's a glitch or not.
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    Hey TC, could you do me a favour? I want to ask a dev a question and it's driving me crazy.

    Could you ask the dev if they intentionally made it so that landmines disappear after you get killed, or is it a glitch?

    I'm a full time Demolition player, and I really want to know if it's a glitch or not.
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  • OMGWTFBBQ32
     
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    Jun 28, 2008 11:38 pm PT
    Here's a link to a thread I made incase you don't understand what I'm trying to ask:

    http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=935085&topic=43952345
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    Here's a link to a thread I made incase you don't understand what I'm trying to ask:

    http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=935085&topic=43952345
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  • vic8379
     
    Jun 29, 2008 12:46 am PT
    Hey bbq, I'm almost 1000% positive it's intended. I'm a demo player as well. It's the same way with specialists and c4, they all start to disapear about 15 seconds after you die. I guess it's just a form of balancing the game.
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    Hey bbq, I'm almost 1000% positive it's intended. I'm a demo player as well. It's the same way with specialists and c4, they all start to disapear about 15 seconds after you die. I guess it's just a form of balancing the game.
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