Take-Two was developing new Duke Nukem for '10 - Report

Legal documents from countersuit contend publisher had commissioned "well-known" third-party developer to make a new title called "Duke Begins"; project allegedly stopped this past April.

Like most legal battles, the courtroom struggle between Duke Nukem Forever developer 3D Realms and publisher Take-Two Interactive is progressing at a gradual pace. One month after Take-Two sued 3D Realms, the latter's parent company, Apogee Software Ltd., filed a countersuit on Friday in the US District Court of Southern New York, which was spotted by GamePolitics. (The company also uses the Apogee name for its handheld and classic game division, relaunched in 2008.) Besides denying most of the initial suit's claims, the new filing also revealed that Take-Two was working on its own new Duke Nukem game.

Though briefly mentioned in the main body of the suit, the game and its origins are best described in the background information at the 20-page filing's end. It says that as part of an October 22, 2007, agreement, "Apogee granted [Take-Two subsidiary] 2K Games the exclusive rights to develop and publish a new videogame based on Apogee's Duke Nukem franchise." Later on in the suit, the studio is identified as a "third-party" shop, not one of Take-Two internal studios.

According to Apogee's filing, the new game was given the working title of "Duke Begins," possibly hinting at a Batman Begins-style reboot or prequel. 2K Games had reportedly commissioned a "well-known game developer" to start work on the game within two months of the October 2007 filing, with Apogee retaining approval rights. A similar arrangement saw 3D Realms oversee Human Head Studios' development of the 2006 relaunch of Prey, published for the PC and Xbox 360 by 2K Games.

The suit says the original launch date for Duke Begins was mid-2010 under a development schedule approved by Apogee. The agreement would see royalties from the game be used to pay back a $2.5 million loan Take-Two made to Apogee to complete Duke Nukem Forever, which would presumably be released before Duke Begins. However, a clause in the agreement hinted that DNF--first announced in April 1997--could be released as late as October 2012 before Apogee would be forced to repay the loan.

However, Duke Begins was never to see the light of day. Apogee's suit contends that, "upon information and belief"--which is legalese for "as far as we know"--Take-Two "halted or otherwise canceled all development for by the third-party game developer on the Duke Begins game in April 2009." The company contends that any such move was done without its consent and has "materially harmed Apogee" due to loss of royalty revenue.

The October 2007 agreement also saw Take-Two relinquish publishing rights to both a Duke Nukem Forever sequel and a game based on a potential film based on the risque shooter series. However, the current legal impasse between the two companies stems from the fact that Take-Two holds the publishing rights for Duke Nukem Forever, preventing Apogee from taking it to another company. Since Apogee owns the Duke Nukem IP, Take-Two can't commission another studio to make a game without the developer's consent.

According to a May 18 statement from Apogee, Take-Two tried to buy the Duke Nukem IP outright earlier this year. However, according to the developer, "Take-Two's proposal was unacceptable to 3DR for many reasons, including no upfront money, no guaranteed minimum payment, and no guarantee to complete the DNF game."

Apogee's counterclaim also reveals that all the agreements were only for a PC version of Duke Nukem Forever. Until May 1, 2009, the companies were negotiating an agreement for Apogee to develop a 360 version of the game--which obviously fell through.

Finally, Apogee also laid out the blame for Duke Nukem Forever's 12-year development period. The culprits were "personnel changes over the years, software and hardware technology changes and upgrades, gameplay changes and enhancements, and switching from the Quake II engine to the Unreal engine during the project." Apogee contends, though, that the delays didn't matter, since "a completion date has never been set by either Apogee or Take-Two or otherwise contractually agreed between Apogee or Take-Two."

137 Comments

  • Siimgames

    Posted Sep 22, 2009 12:39 pm PT

    i hope Take 2 doesn't F*** around

  • Hitmanspike

    Posted Aug 19, 2009 8:09 pm PT

    Damn Zero Hour was kinda the last chapter...it's like 15 yaers ago

  • wenisman

    Posted Jul 8, 2009 4:12 pm PT

    we have heard all this rubbish before... 'duke is coming'... blah blah blah... the hype is gone, why kick this dead horse? fans of duke are sooo pissed they wont buy the game for sheer frustration over the past 12 years!

    as a long fan of duke i have heard so many cry wolf stories from these two companies that i can no longer believe either one. i do believe there will be no more duke nukems...

  • shinigami50

    Posted Jul 6, 2009 1:36 pm PT

    This really pisses me off. Kiss and make up damn it. I want to have this game! T.T Waiting for so long. And yes, I am a die-hard fan of Duke Nukem.

  • VanGriffin

    Posted Jun 30, 2009 6:39 pm PT

    Hmmmm Ten years and counting.... I dont really give a hoot. The first one is still fun to play. However the new graphics look kickin. Be nice if they finish the thing and gimme no matter who owns it

  • Dgalmun

    Posted Jun 30, 2009 12:01 pm PT

    A new duke nukem game that's gonna take forever, if 3d realms start doing something. Then I'll get the game.

  • lollersir

    Posted Jun 25, 2009 12:01 am PT

    It's like 2 friends bought a lamborghini but then got mad and said the other couldn't drive it. Uselessness should be left for personal things and made into personal problems ... NOT in business settings where you need to have your company do its work.

    I don't blame whichever dev. team member leaked all those images. I would be PISSED if I toiled and spent my time and creativity on such a project only to see it go down the ****ter because the higher ups are pissing on each other. If it went my way I would've released the whole build I had to the public no questions asked.

  • XBLACKXVIPERX

    Posted Jun 24, 2009 4:37 pm PT

    ,aybe they should change the title to Duke Nukem Takes 4EVER.

  • XBLACKXVIPERX

    Posted Jun 24, 2009 4:35 pm PT

    soooooo lol it looks like we finally got an approximate date of release for the infamously delayed n what seems to be long-in-development game that was announced back in April of 1997........it will be released no later than October 31,2012...wow and I thought they were just taking their time lmao hahaha....as long as it gets released its fine by me....but if it does indeed release on October of 2012 that means its been in development for at "least" 15 1/2 yrs from it was first announced....it could have been in development for longer than that......i mean software development starts when the creator or creators of said software start thinking about what they are gonna make and put it on paper....so if thats the case DAMN......the wait better be worth it...lol and I hope they do release it......I hate it when videogame companies cancel games they should just finish it...even if it takes a while in DNF's case over a decade(over 15yrs if it does release in Oct 2012)well once it hits the 15 1/2 yrs that when the title was first announced the product better be of friggn good production value....

  • psycho_spaceman

    Posted Jun 24, 2009 10:41 am PT

    gawhhh.... this sucks man, i have great memories with duke nukem 3d.... and this is where they're at now. yeesh

  • beesbreck

    Posted Jun 24, 2009 10:20 am PT

    gonna rip off ya lawyer head and shet down your neck.....

  • Shedding

    Posted Jun 24, 2009 3:40 am PT

    Wow.. talk about a royal mess. These two companies need to kiss and make up. Make the game and make some money. The only one making money right now are the blood sucking lawyers.

  • Avenger1324

    Posted Jun 24, 2009 3:24 am PT

    The lawyers came to kick ass and chew bubblegum, but they were all outta gum

  • Joshuayeah

    Posted Jun 24, 2009 2:29 am PT

    seriously, any one still care about this?
    Duke had his day, you can bet all your money that if this game did ever get finished produced and published it would be fairly terrible. after all the crap thats surrounded it and all the years in development. maaaan just drop duke and make something else... more suited to your abilities.... perhaps some online flash games?

  • mooooo99

    Posted Jun 24, 2009 12:47 am PT

    im not really too bothered about this game.. the duke nukem games i played were never really that good anyway.

  • nurse_tsunami

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 10:22 pm PT

    Man what a mess

  • 55592

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 6:39 pm PT

    Those alien bastards are gonna pay for litigating my ride!

  • parrot_of_adun

    Posted Jun 23, 2009 5:35 pm PT

    I just hope DNF finds it's way onto shelves.

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