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  • Aug 3, 2009 1:26 pm PT
    I just got this month's EDGE, the one with the NMH2 article, and here is the new info summarized:

    1. What makes Travis' Schpeletiger new is that it is now twice as long (in addition to the better controls).

    2. This has already been verified, but there have been doubts and concerns as to how Grasshopper is going to have 50 unique bosses, from their appearance to actual fighting capabilities. Suda explains to EDGE that basically there is nothing to worry about as they incorporated both the original NMH development team and the NMH2 team (many members being of both teams including the character creator) to brainstorm and according to Suda they had no problems shooting out several ideas and characters from that.

    3. The name of the "schoolgirl assassin" we all know about is Kimmy. How appropriate. Suda also mentions that Kimmy wants to keep Travis "all to her self." Possible Misery references?

    4. At the end of every boss fight, a 2D image of Travis will walk from one end of the screen to the other to hop onto the Schpeletiger and drive off, accompanied by some new piece of midi music.

    5. The idea of Travis using other weapons, even projectiles, was considered by Suda, but ultimately canned as Suda says that the sword/beam katana is what Travis should always use. Suda calls Travis the "modern samurai."

    6. It was implied that Bishop actually does not die or get killed off, as the article explains that Bishop will have a bigger role to play in the game. At the same time, Suda says that "Travis is fighting for himself" not for anyone else. Travis is fighting for revenge, but perhaps for someone else other than Bishop?

    7. Speaking more specifically on the city, Suda explains that Travis had actually left Santa Destroy for those three years, and it wasn't until he came back that he had seen how much it had changed. Where Travis had gone is not said. Only a portion of the original city will be traveled, based on fan responses on the first game. The streets and sidewalks will be much more busier and cars will "get out of the way" of Travis' bike. There are construction signs and lights everywhere. One of the fighting grounds will be a "new school", "construction yard", and a graveyard. Not sure if the school is new in the sense that it is an additional one to the Santa Destroy High School or if it is just a remodeled SDHS.

    8. There are still side jobs such as coconut collecting and a new one involving plumbing. Suda explains that he still wants the player to feel like he has to work hard to play the game as that is what it means to be a punk. Otherwise, he says, there is a disconnect between the videogame world and reality. Still, the side jobs are still improved and provide humor as well as entertainment.

    9. It is confirmed that Destroyman comes back as a cyborg as wanting revenge against, who else, Travis.

    10. Finally, the bosses themselves: it will not be as difficult, time consuming, and at times boring to collect enough money to advance to the next boss fight. In fact, Suda purposely wanted to mix things up to keep it from getting repetitive by having Shinobu and Henry as playable characters and, at times, fighting more than one boss fight, sometimes one right after the other, and sometimes simultaneously.
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    I just got this month's EDGE, the one with the NMH2 article, and here is the new info summarized:

    1. What makes Travis' Schpeletiger new is that it is now twice as long (in addition to the better controls).

    2. This has already been verified, but there have been doubts and concerns as to how Grasshopper is going to have 50 unique bosses, from their appearance to actual fighting capabilities. Suda explains to EDGE that basically there is nothing to worry about as they incorporated both the original NMH development team and the NMH2 team (many members being of both teams including the character creator) to brainstorm and according to Suda they had no problems shooting out several ideas and characters from that.

    3. The name of the "schoolgirl assassin" we all know about is Kimmy. How appropriate. Suda also mentions that Kimmy wants to keep Travis "all to her self." Possible Misery references?

    4. At the end of every boss fight, a 2D image of Travis will walk from one end of the screen to the other to hop onto the Schpeletiger and drive off, accompanied by some new piece of midi music.

    5. The idea of Travis using other weapons, even projectiles, was considered by Suda, but ultimately canned as Suda says that the sword/beam katana is what Travis should always use. Suda calls Travis the "modern samurai."

    6. It was implied that Bishop actually does not die or get killed off, as the article explains that Bishop will have a bigger role to play in the game. At the same time, Suda says that "Travis is fighting for himself" not for anyone else. Travis is fighting for revenge, but perhaps for someone else other than Bishop?

    7. Speaking more specifically on the city, Suda explains that Travis had actually left Santa Destroy for those three years, and it wasn't until he came back that he had seen how much it had changed. Where Travis had gone is not said. Only a portion of the original city will be traveled, based on fan responses on the first game. The streets and sidewalks will be much more busier and cars will "get out of the way" of Travis' bike. There are construction signs and lights everywhere. One of the fighting grounds will be a "new school", "construction yard", and a graveyard. Not sure if the school is new in the sense that it is an additional one to the Santa Destroy High School or if it is just a remodeled SDHS.

    8. There are still side jobs such as coconut collecting and a new one involving plumbing. Suda explains that he still wants the player to feel like he has to work hard to play the game as that is what it means to be a punk. Otherwise, he says, there is a disconnect between the videogame world and reality. Still, the side jobs are still improved and provide humor as well as entertainment.

    9. It is confirmed that Destroyman comes back as a cyborg as wanting revenge against, who else, Travis.

    10. Finally, the bosses themselves: it will not be as difficult, time consuming, and at times boring to collect enough money to advance to the next boss fight. In fact, Suda purposely wanted to mix things up to keep it from getting repetitive by having Shinobu and Henry as playable characters and, at times, fighting more than one boss fight, sometimes one right after the other, and sometimes simultaneously.
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    Man the **** up.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/jmcconnell86
  • Aug 3, 2009 1:34 pm PT
    Holy Guacamole, this time Suda really is pulling out all the stops! Also, several of my theories just bit the dust.
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    Gringo
    Holy Guacamole, this time Suda really is pulling out all the stops! Also, several of my theories just bit the dust.
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    Gringo
  • Aug 3, 2009 1:56 pm PT
    Yay,Cyborg-Destroyman! (Also,#4 sounds adorable.)

    *Starts saving up to pre-order*
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    Yay,Cyborg-Destroyman! (Also,#4 sounds adorable.)

    *Starts saving up to pre-order*
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  • Aug 3, 2009 2:24 pm PT
    Schpeltiger's twice as long, huh?

    Wonder if Travis is trying to compensate for something...
    Schpeltiger's twice as long, huh?

    Wonder if Travis is trying to compensate for something...
  • Aug 3, 2009 3:51 pm PT
    OH thanks jason! Just post the whole thing just do it! PLEASE bro you know I can't find UK's EDGE mag in Craptown!
    You rock.
    I'm pretty sure they told us Travis has been in Santa Destroy for those three years *shrug* not that it's important. (He just comes back and gets the same room?)
    Oh boy oh boy! I love the 2d Trav and midi music thing sounds cute!
    Heehehhehheeehee

    And I thought Schpeltiger was big b4 oooh.... *raisebrows*
    People scrambling to make way, I can dig it.

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    Dying 4 more Touchdown?
    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5130342/1/No_More_Heroes_Desperate_Struggle
    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5220894/1/No_More_Heaven_Bad_Girl
    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5245528/1/No_More_Heaven_Ladies_Choice
    OH thanks jason! Just post the whole thing just do it! PLEASE bro you know I can't find UK's EDGE mag in Craptown!
    You rock.
    I'm pretty sure they told us Travis has been in Santa Destroy for those three years *shrug* not that it's important. (He just comes back and gets the same room?)
    Oh boy oh boy! I love the 2d Trav and midi music thing sounds cute!
    Heehehhehheeehee

    And I thought Schpeltiger was big b4 oooh.... *raisebrows*
    People scrambling to make way, I can dig it.

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    Dying 4 more Touchdown?
    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5130342/1/No_More_Heroes_Desperate_Struggle
    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5220894/1/No_More_Heaven_Bad_Girl
    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5245528/1/No_More_Heaven_Ladies_Choice
  • Aug 3, 2009 8:36 pm PT
    So Destroyman is coming back? Heheh nice. Wish Harvey and Helter would come back, but that's probably a bit much.
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    PSN-Ragiroth
    So Destroyman is coming back? Heheh nice. Wish Harvey and Helter would come back, but that's probably a bit much.
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    http://z8.invisionfree.com/Final_Chase_Zone/index.php?
    PSN-Ragiroth
  • Aug 3, 2009 9:38 pm PT
    9. It is confirmed that Destroyman comes back as a cyborg as wanting revenge against, who else, Travis.

    Waitwaitwait wait wait wait wait... wait...

    Wait...

    Is Destroyman the big villain this time around? Was it him speaking in the E3 trailer?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVN_Sbbz4Rw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH1Hkh1J3Uo
    9. It is confirmed that Destroyman comes back as a cyborg as wanting revenge against, who else, Travis.

    Waitwaitwait wait wait wait wait... wait...

    Wait...

    Is Destroyman the big villain this time around? Was it him speaking in the E3 trailer?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVN_Sbbz4Rw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH1Hkh1J3Uo
  • Aug 4, 2009 2:07 am PT
    Judging by both the voices and what was said, I'd say no. "Now it's your turn to feel the burden of another's death" wouldn't mean Destroyman because he lost his own life, not someone he hold's dear.
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    Man the **** up.
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    Judging by both the voices and what was said, I'd say no. "Now it's your turn to feel the burden of another's death" wouldn't mean Destroyman because he lost his own life, not someone he hold's dear.
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    Man the **** up.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/jmcconnell86
  • Aug 4, 2009 5:21 pm PT
    jason
    please
    post
    the
    article?

    please
    please
    please

    bro

    please

    help
    me
    jason-wan
    you
    are
    my
    only
    hope
    jason
    please
    post
    the
    article?

    please
    please
    please

    bro

    please

    help
    me
    jason-wan
    you
    are
    my
    only
    hope
  • Aug 4, 2009 5:46 pm PT
    ^^ I agree, this I gotta see. I know you're just relaying info from the article, but some of it conflicts with what Nintendo Power, Famitsu and Suda himself in video interviews, have been reporting, one thing being Travis leaving Santa Destroy and returning for NMH2 instead of us finding him still living in the same motel room three years later. Another conflict is Bishop not actually dying, even though Travis' journey is supposed to begin when he receives a package in the mail informing him about the death. And if previous articles are right about Travis fighting under the impression that Bishop is dead, Suda now telling Edge that he doesn't die seems like something that could prove to be a major spoiler.

    Other than those points, the rest of the new info is pretty interesting. Perhaps Destroyman being vertically bisected and converted into an android is a reference to Frieza from Dragon Ball Z?
    ^^ I agree, this I gotta see. I know you're just relaying info from the article, but some of it conflicts with what Nintendo Power, Famitsu and Suda himself in video interviews, have been reporting, one thing being Travis leaving Santa Destroy and returning for NMH2 instead of us finding him still living in the same motel room three years later. Another conflict is Bishop not actually dying, even though Travis' journey is supposed to begin when he receives a package in the mail informing him about the death. And if previous articles are right about Travis fighting under the impression that Bishop is dead, Suda now telling Edge that he doesn't die seems like something that could prove to be a major spoiler.

    Other than those points, the rest of the new info is pretty interesting. Perhaps Destroyman being vertically bisected and converted into an android is a reference to Frieza from Dragon Ball Z? :P
  • Aug 4, 2009 7:38 pm PT
    What if somehow the story ends up with Bishop betraying Travis? That would explain the fighting for himself thing. I don't know, just throwing ideas...
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    What if somehow the story ends up with Bishop betraying Travis? That would explain the fighting for himself thing. I don't know, just throwing ideas...
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    FOE!FOE!FOE!FOE!FOE!
  • Aug 4, 2009 10:39 pm PT
    There isn't an article to post, at least an online one. I got the physical EDGE magazine for this month, August. If you guys wanna double check the info on this, then buy or order it. Or wait until EDGE posts the info online, I guess.

    I simply read the article a couple times over and summarized here.

    Now that I think on it, though, I suppose I could scan the article from work and send it to my email. If I can, you'll see it in a couple days. If the info alone wasn't enough, the article's got some pretty awesome new pictures to look at too.
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    Man the **** up.
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    There isn't an article to post, at least an online one. I got the physical EDGE magazine for this month, August. If you guys wanna double check the info on this, then buy or order it. Or wait until EDGE posts the info online, I guess.

    I simply read the article a couple times over and summarized here.

    Now that I think on it, though, I suppose I could scan the article from work and send it to my email. If I can, you'll see it in a couple days. If the info alone wasn't enough, the article's got some pretty awesome new pictures to look at too.
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    Man the **** up.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/jmcconnell86
  • Aug 4, 2009 11:32 pm PT
    That'd be cool. And I'm not saying I think you're mistaken or anything with what you're reporting, I'm just having trouble swallowing a couple of those facts in the midst of everything else that's been recently announced, so I'm curious to read the actual article. I appreciate the updates though!
    That'd be cool. And I'm not saying I think you're mistaken or anything with what you're reporting, I'm just having trouble swallowing a couple of those facts in the midst of everything else that's been recently announced, so I'm curious to read the actual article. I appreciate the updates though!
  • Aug 5, 2009 5:46 am PT
    Letz Shake shoulda came back ;o.
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    Letz Shake shoulda came back ;o.
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    CoD 5 wii fc: 2836-4219-0021- E/PRAWR
    Conduit FC: Too lazy to post atm - [EP]RAWR
  • Aug 5, 2009 4:07 pm PT
    Silvia should come at the beginning(like after a brief summary of NMH2) and say "Damn I was wrong there is a sequal!"
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    Silvia should come at the beginning(like after a brief summary of NMH2) and say "Damn I was wrong there is a sequal!"
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    Wii Conduit FC 4812-5185-2747
    Wii Brawl FC(under construction...lazyness)
  • Aug 5, 2009 5:54 pm PT
    You know what I was asking.
    Type the thing verbatim.

    Is it really so much to ask?
    *HEAVY GUILT*

    I would do it for you...
    *guilt must be tangible thru your monitor!!!*


    I've been looking at edge-online-- they're so backasswards, man, they won't put it up. All they have is the "NMH may not stay on Wii" article (if you've found Suda's blog about toys, you've done your homework) Idk what to say about the pics.... if you can find a way to link em to us... that would be nice

    Yeah I know... the "Travis gone" vs "Travis stay" for the three years... definitely heard some conflicting reports. And it DOES sound like Suda might have dropped a bad spoiler re: the Bishop stuff--- wtf?
    You know what I was asking.
    Type the thing verbatim.

    Is it really so much to ask?
    *HEAVY GUILT*

    I would do it for you...
    *guilt must be tangible thru your monitor!!!*


    I've been looking at edge-online-- they're so backasswards, man, they won't put it up. All they have is the "NMH may not stay on Wii" article (if you've found Suda's blog about toys, you've done your homework) Idk what to say about the pics.... if you can find a way to link em to us... that would be nice :D :D

    Yeah I know... the "Travis gone" vs "Travis stay" for the three years... definitely heard some conflicting reports. And it DOES sound like Suda might have dropped a bad spoiler re: the Bishop stuff--- wtf?
  • Aug 6, 2009 4:43 pm PT
    JASON!

    I have one final weapon in my arsenal... you will find it undeniable. Irrefutable. You cannot resist posting that article!!!!
    Here it comes, steel yourself! Jason!!!
    JASON!

    I have one final weapon in my arsenal... you will find it undeniable. Irrefutable. You cannot resist posting that article!!!!
    Here it comes, steel yourself! Jason!!!
  • Aug 6, 2009 4:44 pm PT
    I insist?
    I insist?
  • Aug 6, 2009 5:22 pm PT
    ...Triple post? Really? O_o;
    ...Triple post? Really? O_o;
  • Aug 7, 2009 2:21 am PT
    Alright, guys. I tried to scan the article. There were six pages in all, and all six came out crappy and in black and white. Apparently my scanner at work is only black and white. Figures.

    But...I will copypasta all the text for you all...sometime. I just don't feel like it now.

    Or, ya know, someone else with a better scanner could do the work for me. Or, ya know, EDGE could get off their asses and put up that article online already.
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    Man the **** up.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/jmcconnell86
    Alright, guys. I tried to scan the article. There were six pages in all, and all six came out crappy and in black and white. Apparently my scanner at work is only black and white. Figures.

    But...I will copypasta all the text for you all...sometime. I just don't feel like it now.

    Or, ya know, someone else with a better scanner could do the work for me. Or, ya know, EDGE could get off their asses and put up that article online already.
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    Man the **** up.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/jmcconnell86
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