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thatguy_b
thatguy_b

When the Earth is in peril, Guile and his sonic sniper rifle answer the call.

Trinitarian
Trinitarian

Anyone know if there will be vehicles in the fighting that you control, produce and command? And will battles be epic, in terms of size of units ou can control? Say something like civilization where you have countless units to command?

Suporex
Suporex

where tha hell is PS3 demo?? how long they are going to wait

Gwarpup
Gwarpup

These little choice options are only for this interactive Demo.  Its a different demo than the playable one.  This one is simply to show how the the demo will play out based on the the choices you choose.  The whole thing is for watching only and not playing.  Its not in the actual game at all.

Joshua2222
Joshua2222

Very interested. Love these kinds of games.

Sprock26
Sprock26

Damn iam tired of that infernal IE add!! Microsoft just needs to realize that IE sucks, and you will never get to have a monopoly on web browsers anymore! 

xolivierx
xolivierx

enough with the effing demo, just release the game I can't wait anymore!

enstol
enstol

This wasn't a good demo video. It will give a lot of people the wrong impression of the game.

talanto
talanto

I prefer a FPS game with that name ip.

BravoOneActual
BravoOneActual

Am I going to get this game?  Probably not any time soon.

 

Do I appreciate a developer avoiding yet another complete & total FPS sellout of a revered, classic title?  Hell yes.

simon1812
simon1812

"frontal assault" and "cover advance"? so during the mission it cant happen that the situation changes and forces the  player to shift his approach? or do a combination of both maybe?

 

not sure about this level of "choices" pretty much being forced onto the player.

 

       so I cant have 3 assault and one sniper? is that how it goes? I cant have it my way? why not? the game will stop me becaus Im doing it wrong?

 

I think the more choices r left to the discretion of the player the better.

 

so far it seems to me that developer at 2KG are trying to make it so the heads of little kids dont spin and explode when playing this game, I know the original XCOM did just that before I got the hang of it

TruSake
TruSake

I want to PLAY the demo, not WATCH the demo being played!

Murissokah
Murissokah

Looking forward to this game! I really hope these multiple choices are just suggestions, though, and not pre-packed strategies intended to make the game easier. This one has great potential, please come through with it 2K!

nosferatu94
nosferatu94

this looks so damn fun can't wait!!!

 

EliOli
EliOli

This does not look the least bit interesting to me. 

slydfx
slydfx

Get real guys,you want to play it because it's new then after 6 hours of sync kill action cam you will jump back to guild wars 2 and don't even try to counter my comment because you will look stupid.

R_Mckay
R_Mckay

I cant wait for this game! I hope its coming to my part of the world (SEA) I can't even play Guildwars 2 anymore, I just want this game in my hands now. I'm a fan of the original, but I kind of like the idea of trimming the troop count to six, basically because I remember when I played the original I was mostly using the rest of the people as canon fodder, here, u lose a soldier and its definitely going to hurt, gives u more incentive to keep ur troops alive thru proper tactics and makes u think twice about doing something stupid.

 

the new mechanic is interesting, and I must say, I am leaning more towards the new move and shoot style, but that's just me. if people want a more faithful iteration, then Xenonauts (did I get that right?) could be more of ur flavor of choice, either way... lets support these games to show the people who control the purse strings that there is STILL an audience for this kind of games.

Banefire76
Banefire76

October 12th can't come fast enough. I can't wait to sink many hours into this game!!!! :D

R_Mckay
R_Mckay

 @Trinitarian you certainly wont have countless units to command like Civ, at most u can bring SIX people on tactical missions, or mix and match with a Shiv (robotic tank) and soldiers.  BUT battles will be epic... especially with difficulty ramped up to classic....

 

no more sleep for me after this game gets released v^_^,

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

 @xolivierx Patience, it will be out soon.  Of course that means that it's hard to play any other games while waiting to play this game, but soon, very soon.

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

 @talanto Ewww, not thanks.  There are more than enough twitch shooters out as it is.  It's good to see a turn based strategy game for a change.

Trinitarian
Trinitarian

 @BravoOneActual appreciation doesn't pay there bills. So you think this or that about companies selling out. Well with people like you its no wonder. Its like saying thank you for to some volunteer for their work when they could be your employee if you'd hire them, while you have this lazy ass employee who drinks on the job and doesn't do shit but yet you keep him. 

 

Keep your lame and stupid ass comments to yourself OR put your money where your mouth is.

Joeguy00
Joeguy00

 @simon1812 

You do know the Steam demo combat was set on easy difficulty, with fixed spawn points and was completely scripted. It was only part of the tutorial missions before the game even begins. While the interactive trailer is just a montage of different scenarios so you can see win & fail states? Combat is way, way better than it seems in the demo.

 

The game isn't aimed at kids, its just as complex as before. Its just refined and more sleek. The systems flow better and you save on micromanagement, but you still have the Resources, Economy, Facilities, Research, Grey Market, Income, Terror Level, Scanning for Missions, Interceptors, Weapons & Equipment, Ranking Up, Complex tactical Gameplay, Recovering Equipment/Relics, Diverse Missions, Refined Interface and Inventory system, Better Squad Customization and more Game Modes, better Balance and Multiplayer.

 

You have to spend some reasonable time viewing previews before deciding on an opinion of the game, or you just sound like you don't want to like it.

Black_Pander
Black_Pander

 @simon1812 this is essentially an incredibly dumbed down demo. rest assured that in the actual game there is a MUCH greater amount of flexibility

Anigmar
Anigmar

 @simon1812 Before mission you choose your soldiers & loadout freely and you control them directly during the mission. This is just a video showing you different approachs, those choice buttons won't appear in the game. Play the demo on Steam, or watch other gameplay videos where they show the real game.

Anigmar
Anigmar

 @TruSake This is not the demo, at least not the PC version.

Joeguy00
Joeguy00

 @slydfx 

The game has such high polish and quality behind it the devs give people the option to turn the glam-cam off from the get go. This is just a game people can sit and actually enjoy thinking about, you aren't rushed or moved along by easy gameplay. This is an XCOM game mate, the spectacle is just the icing on a very tasty TBS game cake.

Black_Pander
Black_Pander

 @slydfx just from glancing over the replies to your comment i would advise applying cold water to the burnt area

Murissokah
Murissokah

 @slydfx You will be amazed to find out that there are a awesome lot of people who couldn't care less for Guild Wars. You will also be amazed to find out the first X-COM game was one of the best strategy games of all time, leaving a huge fan base without a decent sequel. So no, we actually wanna play it because we've waited 15 years for it.

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

 @slydfx I don't play Guild Wars, not interested in that game.  I'm interested in XCOM because I love strategy and I've been longing for a new turn based strategy game to play.

Epicurus-Reborn
Epicurus-Reborn

 @slydfx nope. i want to play it because the game designers and developers have a lot of integrity. Civilization is so addicting. i still play it. This looks even more interesting. 

simon1812
simon1812

 @R_Mckay kind of agree but one of thie things abour the original was to be able to deploy so many troops, even if just for cannon fodder, remember in these kind of games things dont go as planned (that was part of the beauty) in some instance I would send the rookies  (canon fodder) ahead just for the enemy to target my veterans instead, compromise the whole strategy but then having the rookies rise to the occasion and save the day, this was the crazy unpredictable stuff one had to deal with in this game and it was awesome.

 

I dont know anybody else but I never ever had any of the original members (the soldier u would start with) survive to see the end of the game, they would have a long run though.

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

 @WizardGlass The game looks great, the turn based aspect allows for tension and careful tactical planning.  RTS is fun but those games tend to rely on how quickly you can react and counter attack while defending yourself.

 

Turn Based requires the player to think several steps ahead, to have a sound tactic in mind and to be ready to alter their strategy if their opponent's turn changes the tide of the game.

Nodashi
Nodashi

 @WizardGlass You're either a very bad troll or the kind of kid that is killing this industry. Go play CoD.

sodiumpentathol
sodiumpentathol

 @WizardGlass I've never seen a "fun" real-time strategy actually. They're all rubbish and have very little to do with actual strategy. They're only to be played by those suffering from ADHD or something similar.

R_Mckay
R_Mckay

 @Smokescreened84  @xolivierx yup... I've stopped playing all my other games (guildwars 2 and darksiders 2) because I can't wait for this game to come out and playing anything else at the moment isn't satisfying my gamer buzz v^_^,

simon1812
simon1812

 @Anigmar no I dont like steam, I didn like asking my parent for permission to play videogames I dont like having to ask permission to anybody (steam) to play videogames, if am getting this it will be for PS3 (yeah I know console sucks :3) I am still waiting for the demo to show up at the PSN anytime, hope thats soon.

       but the impression is that too many aspect of the game are being removed from the hands of the player, just for the sake of dumbing it down for the kid, or so it seems from my humble  point of view ):[

Smokescreened84
Smokescreened84

 @Murissokah  @slydfx I loved the original X-COM game back in the 90s, such a challenge game and so engrossing.  Loved Terror From The Deep as well, that game was cruel.

 

If this remake is as good as the originals then I hope to be playing it for months or longer.

xolivierx
xolivierx

@R_Mckay @Smokescreened84 last night I dloaded X-Com Ufo defense (torrent) and I was so friggin annoyed by DOSBOX that I went on Steam and just bought the game lol. I'm still not sure wherter or not I will dload it off Steam or buy the Ps3 version. My little finger tells me it's bound to be the PS3 version. Don't look for me next week, I'll be MIA

Gwarpup
Gwarpup

 @simon1812  @Anigmar No some things are removed for the sake of boredom of monotony and tedium.  Like having to count every single movement point for say 10 soldiers making every combat hours and hours long just to hunt down the last alien.  That is difference in Streamlining, from Dumbing Down.  Now its much better.

Epicurus-Reborn
Epicurus-Reborn

 @simon1812  @Anigmar i think you will be pleasantly surprised to find it isn't dumbed down at all. You should check out the 'now playing' videos of xcom on the site, especially the one with kevin. They show the game has def not been dumbed down. And after the 1st missions things start to get hard and complex. 

Anigmar
Anigmar

 @Smokescreened84  @Murissokah  @slydfx I remember first time I met a Lobsterman in TFTD. I was on Gauss tech. Had to shoot him with 6 different guys and throw a few grenades just to kill 1. Those guys were my nightmare.

Banefire76
Banefire76

 @Joeguy00  @simon1812  @WizardGlass  @sodiumpentathol

 Nicely reasoned Joeguy00. It's fine to have an opinion but to criticise something for being true to itself is...well like you said.

 

Firaxis has done a great job by all indications of staying true to the spirit of the original and incorporating modern tech to re-imagine this great series.

 

In an industry that so often sells out beloved series to cater to marketing stats and the casual gaming market, developers are to be commended when they show some integrity and creativity to work on games in the positive way Firaxis has.

 

Anyway, thats how i feel.

Joeguy00
Joeguy00

 @simon1812  @WizardGlass  @sodiumpentathol 

Peoples reaction in this case to WizardGlass was because XCOM is a TBS series to begin with. They wanted to make a TBS game. It's like saying Mass Effect would be crap unless it became a first person shooter when ME has all its quality and roots in 3rd PS/RPG games. He said the game looked crap for staying true to the source material, that's worthy of being disagreed with.

simon1812
simon1812

 @WizardGlass  @sodiumpentathol sadly thats the society we live in WizardGlass you are either ok with something otherwise you r a hater and u deserve to be treated as such.

Joeguy00
Joeguy00

 @WizardGlass  @sodiumpentathol 

Peoples reaction in this case was because XCOM is a TBS series to begin with. They wanted to make a TBS game. It's like saying Mass Effect would be crap unless it became a first person shooter when ME has all its quality and roots in TPS/RPG games. Plus how would a squad based RTS game even work, especially on a gamepad? I couldn't imagine that to be fun at all.

Banefire76
Banefire76

 @WizardGlass  @sodiumpentathol

 Id just like to point out WizardGlass that this game is made exactly like this for the audience it is targeting.

 

So what you are really saying is that you want car tyres to be made of glass instead of rubber because you are into glass blowing. Mate if you like real time strategy games, GO PLAY real time strategy games. Because to fans of the original X-COM and of this style of gameplay this game is very welcome indeed.

 

Are you on the same page yet?! 

sodiumpentathol
sodiumpentathol

 @WizardGlass Funny how the provoker always tries to play the victim in these matters. Does your kind have some sort of anger fetish or something? Also, seeing how you keep phrasing everything so "colorful", I think we both know who really needs to grow up here.