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blackace
blackace

Looks good. It's a bit dark though. Better lighting would have been nice. This thing would even run on my current PC even if I wanted to play it on the PC. lol!! Already pre-ordered my XBox 360 version. Can't wait.

truelove79
truelove79

@Grovilis I apologize if I misinterpreted your post as PC hate. Though I do disagree with you on one thing. I do believe all games on the next gen of consoles will run at full HD at 60 fps no problem. That resolution is the minimum hardware res modern hardware can run at. PCs can handle much higher now. Quad HD anyone? Anyway, the difference between PCs and consoles is that you can buy a monitor at much higher res than 1920 x 1080 and you'd like your video card to be able to handle that (you gotta spend some serious cash to do it though), while consoles (at least for now) only have to worry about a max of 1920 x 1080, which I think they'll have no problem doing even if the devs push the limits of games. Plus, at least on consoles, it's not so much about the graphics these days like it was in the 80s and 90s and even early 2000s, it's about the game itself and the experience.

Vincecyc
Vincecyc

don't care about playing on PC or console, if it is a good game, BUY IT & STOP Pirating it. you will enjoy more good game from them.

williebazerka
williebazerka

All these ridiculous debates need to stop.Xbox vs. PS,COD vs B3,Skyrim vs Dark Souls and the almighty pc vs consoles rage fest.We play games for different reasons and we like different games but at the end of the day nobody really cares what system you play on or your favorite game or developer.It doesn't matter at all.If you feel your better than someone because of what you have than more power to you.The Witcher 2 is a great game and as long as you can play it is all that matters.

Davhut
Davhut

The debate over the differences of PC vs Console are becoming boring. Stop with the flame wars, enjoy the games on whatever you prefer, don't bore the rest of us with your subjective opinions. The issues should be based on the progression of game development, the efforts the devs are making at moving what is a revolution in graphical design, story development and emotional manipulation. And with motion now becoming more of a focus, gaming can only progress for the better. So enjoy the future folks stop the fan boy griping and live in peace and harmony. Until you are Called on Duty for some Battlefield action. So see I am not a Hippy.:D

Grovilis
Grovilis

@Stardust7 And that's perfectly fine. If you're into JRPGs and fighting games like you say, then using the console as your main platform is a no brainer. For someone like me, though who loves graphics tweaking, mods, indie games, Steam, first person shooters, real times strategies, turn based strategies and prefers the keyboard/mouse for most games then I'm sure you can understand why I prefer PC. It's all a matter of preference and may I just say that if anyone is spending an arm and a leg for a PC JUST to play battlefield 3 and Witcher 2 at max settings then they are seriously throwing their money down the drain. Indeed, the games look beautiful at those settings with a high frame rate, but you're going to need more reasons than that to spend so much cash. Also, from my understanding, Metro 2033, Shogun 2, Arma 2, Crysis 2 and a few simulators are more demanding than Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2. To be honest, Battlefield 3 maxed isn't as impressive as the games I mentioned, in my opinion. Again, it's all a matter of preference.

Stardust7
Stardust7

Witcher is truly a masterpiece...btw i was reading the posts about whats better pc and consoles...thats pointless..and i disagree truelove79...i got a nice pc and i can max witchers graphics to higher with 1920x1080 ...xbox 360 got 6 years old ...but so far i prefer to play the console ...i dont have patience to stay behind a pc screen....its more relaxing to me stay sitting on my confortable couch playing the xbox360 during my free time at home....without mention the exclusive games to consoles that i love mainly the japanese RPG ,fighting games and games like vanquish ,bayoneta ,god of war...etc etc...and i dont think the 6 years old graphics is so dated like u said....i mean ...there are good few pc games today that uses 100% my hardware ...i just remenber witcher 2 and battlefield 3....sometime ago i played super mario world on my girfriends old snes and was so much funnier than the most 1920x1080 antialiasing x16 games that i have in my pc...

isshiah
isshiah

coming this spring...so that'd be autumn, then? damn hemispheres...

jchristenberry
jchristenberry

If the motion segments that where shown are the console version... it looks like garbage. Not hating on consoles, I play on both and always prefer playing on console. But this looked awful.

rooh_mon
rooh_mon

best assasians for ever tank god

Grovilis
Grovilis

@truelove79 What? I never said that console gaming was bad. I play Gears 3 with my friends rather frequently and I find that console gaming beats PC gaming in terms of party play by a longshot. I just got defensive because vodoo basically said that there was no point in PC gaming for anyting other than the graphics which I hope you agree is far from the truth. Why is it that PC gamers have to candy coat everything they say just to avoid offending someone and being called an elitist? Also, I'm not attacking consoles in any way, but just because it'll be a new generation doesn't mean that every if hardly any game will have a native 1080p resolution and run at 60 frames per second. Xbox 360 and PS3 both have games that came out years ago that can already do this no problem because they're not taxing on the hardware at all. It's just that, if a game pushes the limits (which is something that a lot devs like to do), the developers are going to have to make cut backs regardless of the components' power and they normally aim for things like anti aliasing and resolution in such situations.

truelove79
truelove79

Wow Grovilis, someone's a PC gamer elitist. I'm actually a diehard PC gamer and colsole gamer. And while I mostly agree with you (nothing beats PC gaming), console gaming is also great. And when the next crop of consoles comes out, which will be just as powerful as the current crop of PCs, we'll see consoles games running natively at 60 fps at 1920 x 1080 on a nice big 65" Plasma or AMOLED TV. I can't wait. It has nothing to do with consoles being bad, and everything with the life cycle of a console. They're currently 6 years old. When they catch up, they'll look just as good as PC gaming, if only for a short time.

Nosnitsttam
Nosnitsttam

hey maxwell you can check out dark mode in the pc version already. version 2.0 for pc was released MONTHS ago and that's when dark mode made it's appearance.

Grovilis
Grovilis

@coop36 I had an opinion. I shared it. The whole of PC gaming can't be summarized in a mere comment. Even with my many posts, I have only scratched the surface. EDIT: again, not attacking consoles. I'm merely defending the PC.

Grovilis
Grovilis

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Grovilis
Grovilis

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coop36
coop36

Grovillis you really need to learn how to summarize.

Grovilis
Grovilis

Again, I apologize for the wall of text. Didn't realize how much I was rambling.

Grovilis
Grovilis

@vodoo *continued* (sorry. Didn't realize how much I was typing :P) By the way, I'll admit that saying that the low resolutions on big screens look "stretched" was a bad example, but I assure you that I do indeed see a clear depletion of clarity when I see a console game played on such a large screen even if I'm sitting back on the couch. And no, none of my games show a hint of fuzziness no matter how close I sit to the monitor because of the high pixel density. I just don't think it's fair of you to make such abrupt accusations when I'm guessing that you haven't even personally seen a game like Shogun 2, Battlefield 3, or a modded Crysis maxed out on a high resolution at 60 frames per second. It's really a sight to see and I wish you weren't so stubborn about it. In the end, though, I hope that we can agree to disagree. :)

Grovilis
Grovilis

@vodoo *continued* Also, you may not know this, but a lot of big video game companies that are around today started off at small humble beginnings on the PC similar to that of the indie developers. Bungie and Epic games are just to name a couple. Oh, and your argument saying that PC gaming will eventually be pointless when graphics hit a plateau doesn't make a lick of sense. For one, fans would still continue playing on the PC because of the exclusives. I mean, isn't that why console gamers pick the Xbox 360 over the PS3 or vice versa? And two, wouldn't that mean that we would no longer have to upgrade our computers? The common complaint concerning hefty prices would no longer exist so I don't know what you're trying to prove by that statement. You also say that the PC gaming community is slowly depleting while the fact that Steam has recently broken a record for the most users to ever appear on their service at once by a MILLION easily disproves that statement.

Grovilis
Grovilis

@vodoo *continued* Also, have you ever heard of modding? It's a feature that lets the community of a certain game to change basically whatever they feel isn't up to their standards and it's supported by a LOT of PC games. You should really see the artistic and useful changes that that these talented people have put for grabs on the Nexus website for Skyrim already. It has made the game a LOT more enjoyable for me because it fixed quite a few things that I didn't like such as the wonky user interface and the non-detailed maps. Another reason why I like PC gaming is because of the fantastic indie game support. Since the PC isn't exactly owned by anyone, it gives the little guys enough freedom to get their ambitious games out there and they are definitely a sight to see. Have you ever played Amnesia? It's an excellent horror indie game on the PC that freaks you out by simply messing with your head rather than madly throwing zombies at the screen screaming "Bloogie Bloogie Woo! I'm scary because i'm missing an eye!" The game isn't even that graphically advanced at all yet it scares the daylights out of me and is widely considered a fantastic piece of work.

Grovilis
Grovilis

@vodoo *continued* Also, many if not all of the seriously competitive gamers would say that games like MMOs, RPGs, FPSs, and RTSs just work a lot better with the keyboard and mouse. If you're competitive like me, sitting back on the couch with a controller for those genres just doesn't work. I actually PREFER sitting by a desk directly in front the screen having full control of my units/character because of the high button count on the keyboard and the quick precise movements of the mouse. In my opinion, that's way more involving than the former. If I ever just want to relax, I've got the Gamecube for that :P. You may not feel the same way, but that's ok because it's your opinion. Everyone has their own way of playing games. A keyboard and mouse is just my preference.

Grovilis
Grovilis

@vodoo Again, you assume that graphics is the only reason why gamers play on PC. If that's the case then why is it that World of Warcraft is basically the most popular game on the PC? Would you consider that a graphically advanced game by any means? Of course not. It looks like an original Xbox game to tell the truth. The thing is, though, they play the game because it has fun gameplay. Same reason why anyone plays a game. In my experience, most computer players don't even care too much for graphics. Well actually, to correct myself, they do definitely enjoy looking at a pretty game like anyone probably would but not to the point where they get bent out of shape if they can't play it at the highest settings. In fact, the majority of my buds play their games at low settings. They just love the exclusives and I would have to agree. It's just that the arrogant immature PC gamers that you have been so accustom to seeing constantly posting on message boards about their superiority just gives the allusion that graphics is all that we care about.

Vodoo
Vodoo

@ronnet... I see your point (see Grovilis). They just don't get it. @Grovilis... Games that are made for a console, the Xbox or PS, are made for high def screens. They are wider naturally. They are not sd content that has to be "stretched" to fill the screen. See, I don't play games with my face 6 inches from a monitor like pc gamers do. I sit on a couch 7-8 feet away from the tv. If you sit close to a big screen it's gonna look pixelated no matter what resolution it is. And I DO care about graphics, definitely. I much rather play a game like Uncharted or Demons souls than something on the Wii. And when I mention the pc dying thing, I'm referring to globally. PC gamers are a shrinking breed as console gamers are growing globally. What happens when it gets to the point that the consoles are showing the same resolution as a pc? Soon graphical differences won't be able to be noticed by the human eye because both consoles and pc's will have reached their maximum output that can be seen by the naked eye. There is only so far they can go until visual saturation. When that happens is when I think the pc gamers will decrease year over year. When i say pc gaming is dying, all I'm saying is the process has begun. It's a long process, but it will eventually happen. And yes, the pc is a multi-tasking machine but we're talking about gaming only. As time goes on, the consoles will give pc gamers less and less reason to use a pc for gaming. It happens every new console generation.

Grovilis
Grovilis

Vodoo, yes. It's nice to play games on a 60 inch screen, but after playing at resolutions higher than 1080p on my PC, I now find that looking at a console game that doesn't even have a native 720p resolution on that size of a screen looks INCREDIBLY stretched and blurred out. I dare say that it's even straight up ugly and that's only ONE graphical upgrade that PCs have. Also, have you even seen a fully maxed out high budget PC game on a 1920x1200 resolution going at 60 frames per second in person? If you did then I highly doubt that you would be even thinking of saying that the differences are only noticeable by side by side comparisons. It's simply unmatched, in my opinion. The thing is, though, some people don't care too much about graphics and that's fine. I'm just what you'd call a "graphics whore". :P Also, I find your statement saying that gaming PCs are only good for graphics is a pretty short sited statement. I mean, this is the computer you're talking about here. Probably the best multitasking device on the planet. One more thing, when are people going to stop with these ridiculous "PC is dying" arguments? People have been saying this FOREVER. What makes you think that DICE would've even bothered making a specially made version of Battlefield 3 for the PC gamers if there was no profit to be made? Developers have expressed their disdain for working in the console market many times because of how strict and structured things have to be. Epic games said themselves that they plan on going back to they're routes a bit by making PC based games. From my understanding, Bungie plans on doing this as well. How about you go ahead and ask the 4 million users that were all playing Steam at once today about how they feel about your argument?

ronnet
ronnet

@Vodoo, you don't have to tell me. I'm a console gamer as well. I know there are plenty of other arguments to prefer console over PC. In fact, I said two things: they (console gamers) either don't have the money or they don't want to spend the money on a High-End PC. With the last one I obviously hinted at gamers who prefer consoles for the sake of console gaming itself. I just find that the only argument that PC Elitists (often) consider vallid is the money argument. If you tell them you prefer controller + HDTV than they'll say you can also get that setup for a computer. If you tell them you prefer a smooth optimized experience than they'll share websites with information on how to optimize your gaming experience on PC. If you tell them you don't want to do that than they'll say you're lazy and unworthy of being a gamer. If you do that discussion over and over than you end up with multiple posts like you just did. So I just use the most effective argument and judging by the feedback it still works.

krisk7
krisk7

Absolutely amazing on PC. If you are an RPG fan and have an XBOX get this game and enjoy! It offers you the best story and immersion. Also it's a great value for money.

Vodoo
Vodoo

@ronnet... continued from previous post... The consoles are old, which is why they don't look as good as the pc versions, though they aren't as far behind as pc geeks make it out to be. Slightly less resolution and slightly less lighting effects aren't deal breakers for anybody. With most people, if they weren't compared side-by-side, they would never know the difference. These consoles have gone way over the usual console life-cycle, which is why when the new systems come out in the next year or two (Xbox/PS only), they'll look just as good, if not better than high-end pc's. But this upcoming generation of consoles will probably be the last where graphics can be improved by a significant margin. So what then? What happens when pc gamers no longer have the only advantage that a pc has over a console? I'll leave you with that thought because it'll be happening sooner rather than later. I am very much looking forward to playing the Xbox version of the Witcher2. Maybe they'll even add 3D to it.

Vodoo
Vodoo

@ronnet... continued from previous post... From where i'm sitting... I struggle to understand how anyone could have a better time using a computer over a console. But I don't criticize you, it's your PREFERENCE. On another note... why do you think devs are putting this game on the 360? To make money. PC gaming, though no pc gamer will ever admit it, is a dying industry. And now it's even a niche form of gaming at best. Why do you think it takes devs YEARS to port good console games to the pc? Cause they really don't care. There's very little money in it compared to a console game. Most pc gamers rather steal the game than pay for it anyway. They port it when they have nothing better to do. Watch... CD Projekt will get a taste of console sales, providing it's marketed properly, and they'll start doing less and less on the pc, if not abandoning pc games all together.

Vodoo
Vodoo

@ronnet... You're making the reason that console gamers don't have a high-end pc all about money, when in fact you're completely wrong. Most people play games on a console because it's a better gamin enviornment compared to sitting at a desk, using a keyboard for control, on a smaller screen, and the lack of social gameplay. Imo... using a keyboard is more work than it is fun. A controller feels more natural. I'm able to use a 55" Sony 3D HDTV to play my games on with 7.1 full surround sound in the room. The immersion is sooo much better than on a pc monitor. Also, playing games with friends is huge to most console gamers. and I'm not talking about online play, I'm referring to actual REAL people in the same room, playing coop ect... I can easily afford the very best gaming computer made, and I would think any responsible person over 20 that has a credit card could as well. People go with consoles because they're more fun. Money has very little to do with why people choose to use a console over a pc and vice-versa. Most people want to buy the game and play the game. They don't want to have to be concerned with what specs are needed, if I gotta upgrade my sound card, if my graphics card blah blah blah.

Grovilis
Grovilis

@llMrProzAKll I'm not attacking, but how do you know that the frames rate will be silky smooth? The PC version Battlefield 3 was limited to 30 fps.

Grovilis
Grovilis

I understand why people hate exclusives and I personally have zero problem with this specific game being on the xbox 360, but I think that some games on the PC should just stay there. Yes, there are some multiplatform games like Battlefield 3 that are made first and foremost for computers, but the fact that it was to be ported to the consoles meant that the devs couldn't go too crazy with the large maps and graphics without being forced to strip it down too much for the Xbox 360/PS3 versions.

DFBTG
DFBTG

Can't wait for this game. Granted, if my new computer finally arrives, I may break down and just buy it for the PC instead if it's going to look that much better.

coop36
coop36

Turning into another great year for gaming.. cant wait.

theshonen8899
theshonen8899

@ilantis Consoles weren't designed for the best possible gaming experience, they were designed for the cheap and streamlined experience. The last time someone tried to sell a system more powerful than current gen PCs they lost their two generation lead and are now the weakest of the three console makers.

ilantis
ilantis

Of course I'm pleased that they are bringing it to the 360, but I just can't get over the fact that games are "worse" on systems that are specifically designed for videogames (most times only technically speaking, but even Skyrim has better gameplay on PC just because you can use user's mods) . Guess that the money you save for games you spend for system upgrades...

ilantis
ilantis

Too bad that consoles are showing their limitations, I've had the 360 for 6 years, but maybe it's time to get a good PC for gaming, I'm also tired of having to pay 20 bucks more for the same game compared to the pc version.

AJRiley
AJRiley

Even with its console shortcomings, 360 players (PS3 in the future), who never played the game on PC will enjoy it. I can see how these guys are a bit turn off by the adjustments made when compared to their PC experience; however, console gamers will enjoy it as it is. I look forward to play the full game.

psycho75
psycho75

not a prime but seem very playable/enjoyable,i'm gonna try it.

NTM23
NTM23

This is nice, but there are a few problems for me personally. I never played the Witcher back when that came out, I just remember another GameSpot member on here playing it, and I brushed it off as if it were some small Polish game that didn't matter; my mistake. Anyways, since I never played that, and although they'll somewhat fill in gaps from the original to the sequel in this, I'm still kind of not wanting to play it on 360 because of that. I just wish I had a PC powerful enough to play the original and the sequel for the best quality and the best experience out of the series.

neoneo360
neoneo360

glad it,s coming out for xbox360.and i hope every game to be for all platforms.arma for consoles mgs for xbox splinter cell for ps3 and ect...

csftar
csftar

@BURGERgio Are.You.SERIOUS? you're actually them to not make a ps3 port? Why? That's Ridiculous. If Anything should've been kept on PC if you're gonna use that logic, but i'm glad 360 users are getting and i'll be glad when they announce for ps3.

Jedimg
Jedimg

@bizzySGS Well, there's always been one - easy difficulty. The enemies in that one practically throw themselves at your sword. But yea, the higher difficuly settings can be quite punishing.

TerrorRizzing
TerrorRizzing

@ BURGERgio ps3 really doesnt have many exclusives compared to pc, the 360 well...

TerrorRizzing
TerrorRizzing

@ ronnet you dont need a very high end pc to beat the 360 version, but for alot of people they just dont have the proper knowledge.

ronnet
ronnet

These devs are very generous, and it is no suprise that their fans are very loyal. I just wonder how much profit huge corporations like EA are making on their DLC, seeing how a smaller dev/publisher is able to give so much stuff away for free. As for the graphics, I think PC owners who are saying this version looks inferior and people should get it on PC instead are forgetting one thing: most X360 owners, in fact most gamers, don't own a high-end PC. So for most people those gorgeous graphics seen in the PC trailers will never grace their home because they either don't have the money or don't want to spend that much money on a high-end PC. The X360 version looks better than the PC version would on there PC. The comments about how X360/PS3 are like cheap reliable cars compared to the sportmodels that are the High-End PCs is very true. However not everyone can afford such cars. Walking around and showing everyone how awesome your car is and how everyone should get one (even though you know they can't) doesn't make you awesome, it makes you a d*ck.

Diamondsoulz
Diamondsoulz

This game is awesome but the graphics will be toned down too much I think.

Warlord_Irochi
Warlord_Irochi

Glad for Xbox users, they are getting a solid and well done RPG. For the rest: multisystem gamer = WIN