Video Games: Why So Serious?
Earth Defense Force 2025 is as goofy as goofy gets, which is a huge contrast from the games that dominate store shelves. Why can't more games just be silly?
Hmm McShea doesn't strike me as suitable to be head of the silly council :P
And EDF??? Haha if you're in the UK you're raising an eyebrow right now at the no doubt unintentional but unfortunate parallels.. Whoops
Thank you for this video! I could not agree more! I want more video games trying to be video games rather than frequently borrowing conventions from films and the such. I want to see games that abuse their own mechanics in a daft and fun manner. Example, games like Conkers Bad Fur Day have only just scraped the surface of this idea; whereby the entire game is completely self aware that its a video game. Don't get me wrong, when video games portray a convincing illusion into serious subject matters, some come out supreme and memorable. But games like EDF throw that out the window and actually celebrate the fact that its silly by enhancing it constantly; its a tribute to the ridiculousness and that's the HUGE gap in this industry I can tell you.
I got ideas revolving around games based entirely on the premise of ridiculousness, self awareness, self mockery towards its plot and the mechanics of the game, complete and utter funny nonsense - conventions I feel are lacking in this beautiful industry that I care so much about. I would love to share these ideas someday with a developer or something. These kinds of games should not be reserved just for the Indie scene.
But their just isn't enough risk being taken. Developers finding one world that works and bleeding it for about fifty thousand sequels/prequels/equals; making up the story to construct their video game into a franchise. Developers be brave! And unleash your inner sillyness.
Again, great video and I cannot literally wait for EDF 2025!!!
I totally agree with you, while i do like the mature games and themes that games have taken on over the years i really do miss the pleasure of just plain fun games like EDF and so on that do make me laugh and giggle like a lil kid again. i do believe that they are a rare find and i relish them when i can find them anymore.
These games sucks really badly. Why would you ever recommend this games to people?? You compare it to a bunch of games we love and hope we are too distracted by your narration to notice the terrible gameplay.
These games are bad and a waste of your time and money. Please for your own safety do not play them
Yeah!!! Total destructive mayhem = gaming pleasure!!!!
I'm not being sarcastic. Sometimes you need those mindless entertaining games. The key word here folks is entertaining.
this is like saying, "movies are becoming too serious. There should be more comic relief" In other words, Captain Philips should've had more goofy scenes.
it's a simple thing really. it comes down to individual taste or out growing those themes.
I thought this was going to be a serious topic -_-
I was really hoping for a commentary on modern games being too serious when I saw this on the front page. I'm SERIOUSLY exhausted by how pretentious modern games have become. As if they're eligible for the Oscars or something. Trying so hard to be "mature" and "serious". In the end all your Bioshocks and Last Of Us-es are nothing more than killfests only slightly above the average Call Of Duty.
Whatever happened to fun ? Why is FUN no longer a priority. These serious games are the reason I enjoyed Shadow Warrior, Rayman Legends, Guacamelee ! and Stanley Parable more than anything else last year.
I'd like more games like Ratchet and Clank. Well maybe not more games like that, I'm just ready for the next one Neuxs was great just wish they would've went all in and made it lengthier game.
Forgot about this game....Let me do a quick check here...
Ahh, It's only for consoles...That's why I forgot.
gotta agree with this. Fun has gone the way of the dinosaur. With your TLOUs and your CODs and Tomb Raiders and such. Everything is just so drab and bland. Its sad when you think about how vibrant gaming used to be and what it has become. Now you got Titanfall and Watchdogs coming up. Both look just as drab and gray as other games. Gaming really isn't what it used to be.
There's still some one-dimensionality in AAA game story development these days.
Look at how the Metal Gear Solid series managed to be dramatic, plot twisty and yet still ridiculously anime pervy and goofy.
What they need to realize is that a gripping deep story can still exist in a world where much silliness occurs.
Its just a matter of the silliness contributing to the core of the story, and having real character impact instead of existing as a side gag. Satirical dark circumstances work well in this area, because it shows the conflicted world the main character has to deal with on a whole new level.
The only thing I'm weird about is that he names two games that came out within the last 2-3 years, and then says shelves were "littered" with these titles. I thought he was maybe talking about like PS2 era and before.
Arbitrary =/= fun. There are plenty of games out there that employ a humorous story or a light hearted take on the world but stuff like Saint's Row is just a barrage of stupidity that blends together into utter mundanity. There's a reason comedies always have a foil, a straight man. Goofiness is meaningless if it's not placed in some other context.
There's certainly a hell of a lot of games right now that really need to take themselves less seriously. I remember when tomb raider had dinosaurs and wolves that, when shot from the right angle lay on their backs with their feet pointing up in the air. Now all tomb raider has is a hackneyed attempt to make us emotionally connect with Lara as she mows her way through several hundred human beings as though that makes her a more relate-able character. Games attempting to be serious either need the maturity of writing and execution to back it up or they need to think about returning a little silliness. Sometimes even serious games need a little silliness, take fallout: new vegas that game manages to tackle war, religion, sexuality, extremism and a tonne more huge and difficult topics yet it also has a robot in a cowboy hat and shooting a cult of ghouls into orbit to cite just two of the hundred or more examples. I love that games designers feel they can tackle bigger topics now but they need to remember that a grey palette and depressing characters do not make a mature story anymore than comedy automatically renders a story meaningless.
The reason why most games are serious and few games are funny is because it's a lot harder to write comedy.
I support silly games for mindless fun, but not at the expense of serious games. There are good and bad serious games, just as there are good and bad silly games. The fact that a game is light or dark in tone does not categorize it as inherently good or bad.
Silly is exactly why I like Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon in all its neon drenched 80's action movie nostalgia over the original Far Cry 3's overly dramatic story and plain setting.
Thisvideo is funny cos i reming of great games in the 90s limited by technology that were FUN, now we have the technology to implement the features the developers wanted, and we are stuck with the publisher and stock holders MANDATING a standart for gaming, as if everyone were a clone and had teh same taste......so sad
The "Silly Council" should certainly play anything made by Twisted Pixel. I think part of the seriousness reflects on a particular approach to trying to justify games to a crowd that is asking for something that feels more mature, and less "game-like".
The guy makes a good point, but he presents it terribly. The way he speaks makes it seem like he's trying to be dramatic and inspiring, but it just comes out flat.
There have been a few games that have tried to have a whacky lighter side, and most of them have sucked balls.
That said Earth Defence Force looks like some stupid fun. I might investigate.
Mainstream games now are like music circa the 70's or the 90's. Dull, depressing, self-important and pretentious. We need the gaming equivalent of punk rock right now.
Serious does nor mean mature or vice-versa.
It's weird. Jim Sterling released a video with exact same title, Why So Serious?, today too. Though he talked about why gamers were so serious rather than games. Apparently, we all need to lighten up a bit and have some more fun.
This looks horrible, and this video is terrible. Your not funny Tom, do you ever do anything that's not completely stupid?
whats wrong with most games being serious based? i don't see a problem here..
if silly games is your thing get a WiiU, plenty of quirky games on nintendo.
Serious games are generally better, however they still need to be reasonably believable. Games where you e.g. are a super hero saving the earth are hard to believe no matter how serious the tone is, it feels like the developers are trying to shove a power fantasy down your throat. And there are practically no games that do anything interesting with philosophy or deeper thoughts.
I didn't watch the video because Tom's voice and presentation style (if you could say he had one, sterile might be a good descriptor) is awful for sound and video. I will say, however, Disney style family friendliness was fine when i was a kid, and there are wacky games out there still, but for the most part, I'm glad as I've grown up, video games have grown up alongside me. Playing The Last of Us and Tomb Raider and actually being involved in the presentation beats an action movie hands down.
I don't know about you, but I like serious games. When a game has a story about serious things, and makes a joke now and then, it's ideal for me.
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That's ridiculous, i don't like silly stuff. I appreciate great narratives just like Ghosts, Many people did not have the maturity to understand that the dog represents the fear of humanity and how you need to take care of your fears to save your country. And some people says that shallow indie games like Gone Home has a great narrative, i just can't stand ignorance.
how about Borderlands 2?! i never laughed from a game like that before. borderlands 2 made me laugh so hard!
and still keeping me laughing... cause i still play the game everyday.
The Wonderful 101 is one hell of an amazing and yet silly game. All Wii U gamers should pick it up and enjoy the best game on the Wii U.
Had a fair amount of fun with the EDF on Xbox 360 (was it 2024?) but when boredom set in, that was game over. Didn't touch it again and don't feel like ever going back to it.. which is a shame, because this one looks like more of the same.
This looks so garbage, even more so than bloody saints row, so lifeless and generic. Oh well, there's still games like Ratchet & Clank and Battlefield Bad Company if you want a good amount of humour in a game. Still waiting for bad company 3 by the way =P
@ziproy What you find terrible others will probably find something enjoyable to it. Honestly, playing EDF on my Vita was one of the most time consuming laughable fun times I've had with the series.....especially being my first EDF game.
I'm actually looking forward to this for the pure humor of the game. Besides, the only thing this video is comparing with your "oh-so" beloved serious FPS games and such is the humor factor and the fact that the game isn't trying to take itself serious and it pays off from it (even if it doesn't seem so to you).
At any rate, let people find their own joys in games like EDF and such rather than trying to what you're doing and push them away from it.
@Jawehawk-DK They're not goofy in a self aware sense. We see those games as goofy because they try to take themselves seriously and end up failing miserably. The EDF games openly embrace their stupid premise.
@PlatinumPaladin Sounded almost like poetry to me
@silvermoor19That was last week.
What are you doing, man? You're either trying too hard or you're not even trying anymore.
@Diegoctba You're trying way too hard to troll and not just this comment either. Tone it down
@Johny_47 Ratchet & Clank bucks the super serious trend better than any other series, to my mind.