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GeneralKarl
GeneralKarl

Whoa, they have such an overflow of engineers at this company they couldn't afford to hire a marketing guy to match the game to the customer or give a decent demonstration at E3.  Embarrassingly bad presentation.  A tremendous amount of time making a game all down the drain for the worst scripted presentation I have ever seen.  Also, the beauty of Total War has been the authenticity, replaying as if you are one of the commanders of antiquity.  Now, you just roll flaming bales of hay down a hill and send dozens of elephants to battle, neither of which has ever happened.  Even with Al the Great, only a half dozen or a dozen elephant were fielded...and that was in the elephants own turf.  That's if for me, I'm out.

imyourdaddy
imyourdaddy

are they going to make a alexander the great/macedonian campaign again... that would be SICK!

friskyd
friskyd

I honestly dont see what all the gripe is about... if you pre-order the game you will get the DLC...So you can either preorder the pack now at 59.99 and get the DLC or wait a year buy the game at 49.99 and then buy the pack for 10 bucks.... I have been an avid fan of the game series since shogun first came out way back in the day. 

tooki
tooki

TBH, I really like expansion packs.  Companies that make real expansion packs with a significant amount of content at a price comparable to the original game make me happy.  This doesn't.  This just makes me want to wait for the full game to come out.  Releasing content piecemeal always makes me feel like I'm playing a part of the full experience, plus it segments communities (especially in multiplayer games).

Arrwmkr
Arrwmkr

Yeah this culture pack dlc is rubbish, I love Total War but they have been treating fans with increasing contempt. It's a business model and one that may come back to bite.

rss0900
rss0900

59.99 for the game and your already promoting DLC, what's wrong with you people?  At this price point it should include all future DLC.   I agree I'll wait a couple years when the gold pack is released and fully patched with all DLC and 1/4 the price.   Nothing but a money grab, consumers better wake up

tooki
tooki

All this DLC bullshit is exactly why I'll be waiting for a year or two after the game is out to get the full version.  I really hate being nickle-and-dimed.

cclerkin
cclerkin

@GeneralKarl Alexander faced over 80 elephants at the battle of the Hydaspes alone, so right away I know you have no idea what you're talking about. Also the Romans were known to field elephant number in the upper twenties in the African and Middle Eastern theaters in the late Republic and Early Empire. Finally, if thats not enough for you, Hannibal himself fielded almost 40 elephants at Trebia, after losing over half his forces crossing Iberia and the Alps. Its fine to question the historicity of a game, but you should probably actually know something about history if you want to do it.  

Arrwmkr
Arrwmkr

@friskyd You claim you don't 'see', well you need to see and claiming you status as a fan from the start is irrelevant. The point you fail to see is that this indicates what is to come. Again we get an unfinished or incomplete game and then they drip feed us units and upgrades to keep us spending.  You want to claim your old-school kudos? Well I miss the days when you bought the game and played it to death without dlc and without steam, anywhere anytime; that was excellent. And look if it's expensive to make which I imagine it is then set a realistic up front cost. This is a trick to lure customers in with 'micro-transactions'. Now do you see? Or must I charge your left flank before you realise you have been out thought?  :P

Joutja
Joutja

@tooki I'm not bothered about that but I'd prefer to buy the game with all the factions already on it than have to fiddle about with DLC, free or not. 

friskyd
friskyd

So would you be ok paying for a game that's 80+ bucks? Because if we accounted for inflation that's what it would be.. I've been paying 59 bucks for my games for the better part of a decade and the industry has been keeping it at that price point for quite sometime. It just seems people expect these companies to be a nonprofit... Do I enjoy having to pay more, no, but I understand that it is a business and they do what they must to stay afloat. will you be able to complete the campaign without these add-ons? Do you still get to play multiple factions without the add-ons? Upon release you will be able to do all of that. Yet everyone is up in arms about factions that weren't even relevant to that era without a free add-on... The market is what it is and if i remember correctly the original shogun had multiple expansions... So if this still angers you than don't purchase it. As for me, I've enjoyed the series for quite sometime now and if you think you can flank me get a taste of my Spartan hoplites guarding my flank while my Calvary charges you down.

Arrwmkr
Arrwmkr

@friskyd Yeah in Australia we already are made to pay $90 to $130 for a new release game while the US and UK pay much less. Don't be fooled, the games inducstry is now bigger than the film industry and while some companies struggle there is plenty of money going into it. These businesses aren't charities nor do I expect them to be. As a consumer I want to know the total cost going in instead they seek to attact buyers with a lower price then deliver the full game over time with extra add ons.

I am not angry at all but I don't appreciate this marketing ploy. As for your hoplites, there is always a counter, bring up the archers! :D