You made some very good points here. The cost of a console, (which has ZERO potential for upgrades), is set in stone. If you spend 300 upgrading your current system, you will find that you have added a great video card and an extra stick of RAM. I would suggest the 9600 GSO as a decent quality VC that you will spend less than $100 on. It is based on the same chip as the 8800 that everyone drools over.(...and is the same card used in the PS3 I think)
i got a new comp that can run well all new games and to come games for about 1200 if i remember well the new gen consoles costed near 600-800 when they came out. also ive seen games for consoles goes up to 80$ on release date the multiplayer is also to be desired on alot of console games plus for xbox if you want to play multiplayer you gotta pay monthly if your gonna say you gotta pay for internet on the computer well mostly everyone already pays for it wheter or not they can or cant game on pcs. and a pc can last longer then youd think.
@Mooch35 I'd love to know where you can get a high end rig for $800-$1000 without building it yourself, and the initial cost of the gaming console is a much bigger deal than saving ten to twenty dollars a game to most consumers, as neither machine is likely to last forever. If you like computers more than consoles that's fine and I'm glad you can afford to play high-end computer games, but for the average person computer gaming is financially stressful and it isn't fair to try to make fun of them for buying the more affordable gaming console.
@EricIII - Since you made that comment, I'm curious as to how much you think a relatively hi end gaming computer costs. Many, not all, but many console gamers believe that a high end gaming computer is going to cost $2000+ when in fact you can buy a high end rig for somewhere around $800-1000. And like someone said earlier, PC games are usually cheaper. Here's a perfectly good example. I bought L4D2 for $37.50 when it first came out through steam. That's including tax, by the way. Now let's compare a new 360 game. $64.94 if you were to buy it at somewhere like Gamestop. That's $27.44 I just saved. So a couple years from now when my hardware is starting to show it's age, I can use all that saved money on upgrading a few parts where as consoles have to buy a whole new system + games + accesories.
@FlankerDFMax - you "push" devs to "up their game" with your wallet. only buy that which you think is best. if it does not sell, they do not peddle it. if they keep rehashing everything its our fault for buying it. @sakurayuri - Just a next-gen graphics card costs as much as an Elite 360 or a PS3. $400 dollar graphics cards arent for everyone. If you are hating on console makers for being greedy, you should probably look at the companies that make the components and programs for your anti-establishment PC.
its not about which platform is better...its about the input devices and what you are looking for. i like PC games because of the mouse and keyboard and the immersion that comes with playing at a desk a foot from the screen, others like to sit back with a simple controller and play a game or two with their friends about the demographic, i played text-based online games, fallout 2, deus ex, system shock 2, etc when i was 12-15...games have changed...people havent
Scribeman has really hit the nail on the head. I'd add; I think a significant portion of the console demographic is under 21 in age, and are willing to accept less in their gaming due to their relatively less experience in many things. The formulaic style of game development you mention afflicts not just console though, there's far too much of it in PC gaming. Much of it is finance driven........if it makes money the first few times, why change and risk a fianancial turkey? Game Devs ned to be pushed by us to up their game (Ouch!) and improve the quality (adultness) of story telling, game continuity (storyline logic is higher than 8th grade pretending), and game presentation (not just the same old formula in any particular genre. Be fair and objective in reviews, and consructive in your ciriticisms........it's the only way we have to push for needed change.
PC gaming is superior, there is no question, but the start-up can cost more up front. Console gaming you pay less upfront and then continue to pay $10 with each game you buy towards it. Which is right for each person depends on how serious you are and how often you buy games. The downfall is when multi-platform games are produced with lower quality standards to pc/360/ps3 look and play close to each other.
I guess you guys are all going to ignore the fact that a lot of people can't afford a gaming PC then right?
Consoles have pushed mediocre games since their very inception. Much of this, I believe, derives from the fact that the original video games were on consoles, and their developers are to this day the same companies they were back then. To that end, the formula for them has not changed. What's bizarre to me is that even gameplay has not changed. It doesn't matter if it's fantasy RPG, FPS military or space epic. It's all the same. They are complete derivatives across systems. They know one formula and that's it. It's quest-objective-flag capture. Change the dressing around and there's your game. Compare that with the rich world of the Elder Scrolls, The Longest Journey, Grim Fandango, etc. Those stories would never sell well on consoles, whose audience is that of the casual gamer.
I totally agree with sakurayuri... People want more and more features with consoles and they eventually will turn up to be a PC... Why on earth go through all this trouble when we can get better graphics and countless upgrade possibilities with PC? They know PCs have become a must in everyones life and we will buy them even we are not willing to play games on it. Selling consoles will be additional revenue for them. The top two console makers are big time software and hardware makers for PC.
Yeah Rushad. Maybe it's time to move on. Eventually people will it's just how things work. If there's nothing to see there's no point in sticking around.
Console makers are retarded. You go to all these great lengths to make a mass-media entertainment center with web-browsing capeability, a hard-drive and games to install... and you've just essentially created... a PC! "Durrr... I lik recreating the wheel." Oh I know why you guys do it... because you guys are greedy pricks that like to charge licensing fees to game creating companies. See, I don't hate consoles... I just hate what consoles stand for. We have no morales and ethics anymore and companies like Microsoft and Sony BANK on it. F' you guys. Take your isht versions of PCs and shove it up your wazoos.