The War Z vs. DayZ
Brains by any other name would still smell as tasty to a zombie. What about games with very similar names? What are the differences between still in development, The War Z and popular mod, DayZ?
I came here because I had read alot of PC players claiming this is amazing... it looks terrible and the Meta score lives up to this video.
Just like the console wars having there own games god of war-ps3 and gears of war-360 and many more, this must be the pc's claim to fame, with some pc players saying this is a very advanced game compared to whats on the consoles now, I'm a Pc, ps3 and 360 gamer and after the comments of Dayz from pc players I got a lil excited but then instantly dissapointed after seeing how garbage this looks.
This is the big deal? Both of these look so bad as far as graphics and controls. There might be some nice elements with the open world or multiplayer stuff, but damn. I don't really see why there is such a rivalry cuz neither one looks good enough in the first place.
I also loved how they were so unsure of whether or not it's The War Z or War Z and then the video ends with a graphic that says WarZ and then a link www.thewarz.com heheh
I have played DayZ and it boring really quick, because there is really nothing to do. I want to play War Z that if it was free like the other I would have already played it, but I can tell from gameplay videos that it looks alot better and way more fun.
the dude who reviewed WarZ spit lies just like Hammerpoint spit lies.he should really play the game before he talks like he did. so misleading...
None of you have any idea of what you are saying, certain people like Gumusay is true but not 100%. First, War Z is newly released, remember all the bugs in DayZ? Zombies walking through walls, spawning with broken legs, yeah that happened and it happened with War Z also. People say it's so buggy you can't play that's bullshit I play fine and have no problems. You guys are hitting the game incredibly hard because of it's rough start. I played both games and both games are incredibly fun but people just say things aren't true because of the immature RHINOCRUNCH. I am not a fanboy yes War Z has hacker problems and bugs but wait til they patch, they didn't get to because of the shit people give them.
For the record, shouldn't Gamespot kinda take this video down? It's clear they didn't know what they were talking about (IE. not knowing the first thing about Day-Z and praising War Z), when it's now come to light that it was a shovelware scam?
which one is newer? DayZ or WarZ? i mean, ArmA engine sux, i hate the gunplay and the graphics are high on specs and low on quality, but WarZ looks as buggy as shit, i mean, every shot is another lag
Pretty much everything that is being said in War Z's favor isn't even in the game yet or might not even get into the game. Seeing as how lately the community has backlashed on this company, I wonder how the future of this game is going to be. Regardless, nothing that this guy is saying about the game is even relevant because it's not in yet.
My expierence of WarZ was that it was absolutely terrible. Completely bugged, almost unplayable. Really cheaply and poorly strewn together. I cannot believe there are people who like it and still play it.
The difference in War Z and Day Z is, that Day Z is far more realistic and more better game in aspects of logic and designing although just being a mod.
War Z in counterpart is just soft core zombie game where the zombies are minimum to no threat at all, the only problem in War Z are the Hackers(which are constantly there whatever the dev's may say they actually lie about it being solved) and the server hoppers.Ok there are server hoppers in Day Z too, but the main problem is; that War Z has its own source codes on which the developers can actually make some changes that can lead to drastically ends but that doesnt count for Day Z. But nevertheless the modders from Day Z made a great job in my opinion.
There are more things that makes things in Day Z more realistic therefore making it more like a "Survival" game than a first person shooter with zombie flair (which War Z is just giving that taste at the moment)
1) You can get crippled in Day Z, you can bleed out, you can get unconscious and die from dehydration and hunger. None of those realistic features applies to War Z... will they put it in? I dont know, I hope so... (I really dont wanna hear the voices of those fanboys who will actually come out and say its Alpha, its Beta... yea beta and alpha my ass, end december this game is on foundation release which means alpha and beta is over and the game is our literally and it just has 2 or 3 more weeks at most and I dont think they will have cleared all those problems till then? just in your dreams)
2) Zombies in Day Z are more zombie like, and the hordes too... and if you shoot with any kinda gun or whatever you can be sure youre doomed and that is actually the thing that should happen because it actually IS player against hostile environment aka apocalyptic environment. That doesnt mean pvp by the way, and if really someone gets the idea out of this term then he/she has really some problems with terminology.
3) Weapon ranges in Day Z are far more realistic than War Z... an Assault Rifle in Day Z haves approximately 400 meter range, in War Z it has 90 meter at most. (for more info about assault rifle ranges look war z wiki) but the damage table is totally anormal too.. even a pistol does more damage than a AK 47 in some cases well that is really absurd. Even a 5.56 caliber assault rifle is deadly in 100 meter range.
4) In Day Z the weapon spawns and other kind of spawns are actually "related" which means if youre looking for some military weapon like assault rifles or like that you have to go to military bases, compounds or Military helicopter crashes. There you can find weapon, munition and all that kinda stuff. And same goes for Medication and food. All to their relative places. In War Z weapon spawns are totally messed, I have found in many occasions AA12 or kinda weapons like M16 or else in "Trashcans", "civil cars", "post offices" or in most absurd places you can think of. Before the wipe there was the only sniper location in the whole game which was no other place than the side of a "BARN" and not a "military compound or base"... There are even palces like Military tents which are being abused heavily by server hoppers due to their high end item spawn.
so actually War Z is not doing good in this terms in my opinion, and many times they just didnt kept their promise to the community which they actually gave (simple example; "we will not allow to buy gear with real money in order to get advantage to other players aka pay to win" what happens, we all see that after wipe all the items like scope and other enhancements are just being able to buy with GC not by in-game money) and the list stacks up. For me War Z is going to loose for sure if they keep this way, but I dont think that they have putted this game onto market to really bring a rival to Day Z, it was just because they wanted to get some fast money from the post apocalyptic survival players and they wanted to use the potential that was there and have a big part from the cake. And they have scammed us all good well whatever...
in the end I think that it is absurd to "try" to compare those 2 games because 1 is a "mod" only but in such good performance and manner that it leaves other survival games in shadow. And there is a half assed game that has been putted on to get a piece of the cake before Day Z has released its real deal.
Personally I think War Z is better,because the zombies move slowly and you could build stuff, while DayZ on the other hand,has zombies are fast and quite agile, and it's harder.So the conclusion is,DayZ is hard mode and War Z is normal mode.
It is funny how they are comparing a "full fledged game" vs a mod when the actual dayz stand alone game is never compared to warz, details are nill but I find it funny how warZ has to be good enough for a mod and is failing, just imagine how bad it will fare against the real dayz
that long hair guy Max should be fired as a Game Reviewer.i played both DayZ and WarZ. i can say that Sean's assessment of DayZ was spot on while Max really mislead the viewers by telling them about the GOALS of the developers.i haven't played WarZ in few weeks since I had to get my refund. but i left the game for a reason. it's a huge mess.
update don't fix much. zombie scripts were broken 90% of the time. item spawn script was so broken. the moderators/WarZ fan boys defend it by saying its only in Alpha. But as an Alpha game it sure plays worse than Alpha. It feels like the game has only been in development for months at most.the forums are full of trolls and mods who are quick to delete any posts negative about the game.WarZ is full of lies. No way in hell a game can be that shitty and been in development for 2 years.WarZ developers stole the idea of DayZ. It's VERY CLEAR.
he is right and he is just like me words are words 99.999999% of everyone swear like that ... by the way the game aint for kids nore for family people .... so stop gossiping... girls WTF
war z is a rip of day z and day z is coming out as a stand alone war z has so many problems and filled with hackers you guys are dumb
This discussion was just awful.
Max has read into all the "features" that the WarZ developpers have promised.
While Shaun is just oblivious to what Rocket is aiming for with DayZ.
You cant just make a discussion between games while the one knows a lot about the game and the other is a total nitwit about the game that he is supposed to represent.
It was just frustrating to watch.
Oh I forgot to mention The War Z is overrun with Hacks/Cheaters and they have no way of stopping it. Will they have a way in the future, I highly doubt it.
People are mass bailing on The War Z and wanting refunds. Hammerpoint is fail and the Official forums are a trollfest with inept moderators and the community manager Pat "Kewk" Bowman is mentally handicapped. This community and game will bomb big time. It's like the blind leading the blind over there. If you buy this garbage you will be sorry, you've been warned. YouTube has many videos showing this turd game in action, no one cares about the NDA. Nice job Hammerpoint... NOT!
@LukeWesty You really can't judge the game on videos or compare it to those games. Day Z is very realistic, being based on the Arma 2 engine and that's its appeal. It's very much a survival game where you start with nothing and guns, ammo, melee weapons are very rare.
Being basically a mod, it is amazing for all its restrictions, and I would highly recommend watching out for the official game the guy behind it is making.
And those terrible scores? That's "The War Z", which lied to everybody about features, was rushed beyond belief, is a pay to play game with the worst free to play model and ethics where you pay to win and is overall a terrible clone. It's giving Day Z a bad name to people like you who don't realise the difference. They are terrible people.
Because not eveyone plays games for the graphics, graphics don't make a good game, incase you didn't know this, but I doubt you would, being a kid and all. On another note, the graphics in arma 2/Dayz when maxed out are great in my opinion, atleast comparing them to games today, it's photo-realistic, I don't get that "this looks too crappy to enjoy feeling at all" and the stand alone version looks really amazing.....in short, play a game first, then leave comments.....the world today and the people who live in it suck.
Then why click on this post and leave a comment, Oh, I see why, you have nothing else to do, since you like to NOT play GW2, now I understand. Know this, dayz is a mod, it's mechanics are clunky, graphics ok, really no objective at all but to stay alive for no reason at all, yet, I still have and still DO play the game and have played the game in a single sitting and for an overall length of time, much more then the very boring, repetitive and absolutly forgotten and sold on ebay when i hit 80 in 10 days GW2. Enjoy that crap game.
@Rocket2Uranus your a employee by The WarZ right? You have to be the most arrogant person i have read today.
@FootballBeast65 ignorant people usually have a loud mouth. you sir, is the perfect example.
you sir, is the perfect example.
@FootballBeast65 Don't be a muppet. Actually read up on what has happened - i.e. the false advertising, lies, justification of said lies, microtransactions, lies about microtransactions, lies about anti-hacking measures, $100 item pack, not telling users all items disappear upon character death, charge for respawn (unless you wanna wait 4 hours, obviously!), "inspired by" DayZ, even the name with the goal of creating brand confusion, not telling consumers it's rushed out in an incomplete state, to beat DayZ to market in time for the holidays. (Copyright McStrong! :D)After you've read up, come back and I really hope you change your mind.
How about the 1 million plus that still play the mod dayz, which happens to be more then people playing GW2 or SWTOR combined these days......
@psdsoldier25 warz is copy from DAYz
i strongly suggest not buying it since it has really shity graphics, they even removed it from the steam sales list becaus of to many money return requests
@Gumusay thanks for this it was really informative
@Gumusay What the Fuk?why would some one write that much in a comment section, i suggest you seek mental help immediately.
@Gumusay You posted exactly what I think. Also, the developers of DayZ announced that they were coming out with a standalone version by the end of this year, or sometime in January if they get behind. I am almost certain this will be 10x better than The War Z.
@ObviousH its sad max got away with not doing his job.
@c4l1d3n by the time they do...Day Z for arma III will be released... the best part is, it'll be an official mod for arma III..
@Mechangmenow A bambi-zombie maybe?
@Mechangmenow A zombie from Boston?
@terminus Relax, kid. You're probably half my age.
I like how you decided comments were only for people who played the games, cuz otherwise they wouldn't know what they were talking about, but then you go and call me a kid, as if you know how old I am. I'm allowed to think both of those games look like shit based on what I've seen.
I don't need a game to have amazing graphics. However, FPS games today are all trying to have the best graphics cuz that's a major selling points for them. With that said, the game LOOKS like shit. Then there's the over-the-shoulder one that looked clunky as hell as he was trying to fight off zombies. Controls are not graphics and those look bad too.
Also, I did mention how they might have some nice elements, but let's ignore that part and get all bent out of shape cuz our mommy forgot to pack our lunch yesterday and then we saw a mean man say mean things about our favorite game.
Ask yourself what's really bothering you today, cuz I don't think a random person, making a random comment about a random game at a random point in time in your life could honestly make you question the state of the world and the people in it. If it can, I hope your parents don't keep guns in the house.
The point of the comments section is for people to express their opinions and sometimes that takes more than a few words. I much prefer comments which go into a bit detail. It makes the discussion worth reading when they have actually put a bit of time and thought into what they're writing, otherwise it would just be "OMG this games AMAZING!!!" followed by "no its not", "yes it is", "f**k you" and so on, is that really what you would prefer??
He didn't write a novel, so if you cant be bothered to take a minute to read his comment then thats your problem not his. Stop complaining.
@Ebayis09 Its obliously clear that it is actually you who needs the mental help because you think that people dont have the right to tell the truth to the people.
I am stating a fact and not a friggin nonsene. if you cant handle it then shove your comment into your ass and move on moron -.-
There are people whose money and TIME is precious to them and they appreciate it that people WARN them. So get the fuck off you pegi 5 sucker.
DayZ going to be a standalone game at release, and it will be using a modified engine of Take On Helicopters. DayZMod will stay as a ArmA II mod which will be run by the community, while the DayZ game will be run by the developers.
@iBuSHiDo may I remind you the release year of the Arma2 engine? I should also point out, that the engine was not developed to be used on CoD or CS alike But all the mentioned above are little when said that the Arma2 engine seems to be focused on large scale war theaters, so, overwhelming graphics (from a 2009 engine) on this kind of purpose are really hard to ask for, wouldn't you agree?