The Point - What are you buying?

Danny wonders how much influence our friends have over the games we play and the consoles we buy.

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423 comments
ICE_PREDATOR
ICE_PREDATOR

what if ... you don't have any friends ..that play games .. ?

acidhand999
acidhand999

none of my friends play games...never thought I'd say this but I need some "online" friends

CatAtomic999
CatAtomic999

Are all Irish people named Danny, or is it just the men?

Rafficus_III
Rafficus_III

Where can I find the background music to this video? I like the sound to it and have heard it on Danny's other videos.

StammBladecastr
StammBladecastr

None of my friends are gamers... Maybe that's why I never got into online gaming.  My friends' preferences might determine what bar I go to after work, but not what games I buy.  I'm getting a PS4 for starters; I hope it will have good single-player games.

Jerrytt2
Jerrytt2

Can't wait for today's video, love this show!

presidentperez
presidentperez

Danny got so much charisma I cant handle it, by far my favorite host on the internet, he should host the tonight show 

Threesixtyci
Threesixtyci

Cool gamespot got the cache' buffering working on their site. Now I can view vids without it being a slideshow on my weak connection.

Keivz_basic
Keivz_basic

Same most of my friends have either never played videogames, stopped playing them, or play vastly different genres than me. I'm a SP only guy these days.

SPUDIRL3
SPUDIRL3

i love how the point makes me feel nostalgic every time i watch it.

dctackle60
dctackle60

Solid episode, I remember lugging my crt moniter and giant gaming pc to LAN parties. They never started on time and something always went wrong with someones pcs, but they were awesome. 

RunsWithWolfs
RunsWithWolfs

Good video very true, but not only for games this is life in general.

Kristmonkey
Kristmonkey

I decided upon announcement that I was going to purchase the Xbox One. My friends are without a doubt a factor to this, that being said a lot of them can't afford it or don't want to get one right away. I have been the guy in the office or on the phone convincing all around me that this is the console to go for. It's been harder than ever to convince my friends and colleagues, the Playstation 4 was originally the popular choice. But with my consistent passion for gaming, people have come to listen to and respect my views on why.

Although I agree with what you are saying, there is definitely more to it than just 'what are my friends getting?' I personally prefer everything about the xbox from interface to accessories to community. My philosophy has always been get the games you want and CONVINCE your friends that it is awesome and they HAVE to get it. I have already planned to get my friends round on launch, and sell the hell out of the Xbox One so they will get one and join my ever growing empire of Xbox One friends! In short I study the details, choose my favourite and spread the word. 

I do level with you though Danny, playing with friends is the reason gaming has evolved. Our best experiences in games are ones shared.


AMIR_MUTD
AMIR_MUTD

not play any thing till PS4 comes and than KILL MYSELF WITH VIDEO GAMES!!!!

aiden_kasel
aiden_kasel

Yup this is all true, or atleast I agree

MaddenBowler10
MaddenBowler10

I use to play games with my friends often but over the years, they've moved forward to other things like drinking, smoking, working blue collar jobs. I'm still in school and continue to play games religiously. Therefore, I rarely play games online with any real friends. I no longer choose which platform to buy my games on based on what platform my friends play it on. I noticed this when I ended up purchasing Battlefield 4 on PC instead of 360 for the first time since Battlefield 2. With no other friends to play with, I decided to purchase the superior version of the game rather than the one my friends play it on. 

bbq_R0ADK1LL
bbq_R0ADK1LL

I don't really play games with friends. I've played a bit of Borderlands 2 & Farcry 3 in co-op because my flatmates also had the game & sometimes people sit & watch if I'm playing PS3 in the lounge, but 99% of the time I'm playing alone.

I know the trend is everything going online with tacked on multiplayer modes & microtransactions, but I'm all about the single player experience. Games like Battfield bear no interest for me because I know the campaign will be average at best &the main focus is on multiplayer which I can only tolerate for so long.

tchanah
tchanah

Can't agree with you more. The spirit of online gaming lies with the friends you play it with or the friends you made in it. It's just what drives the game and my preference. For the past 8 months I have being playing only 1 online game because my friends are there and I absolutely love it. BF3 is there in the PC, which i rarely visit because we are settled down in one place, not because the game is bad in any aspects. 

forcefactor13
forcefactor13

Now that I think about it, my early love of gaming was influenced by a close friend who was a gamer. We grew apart as we grew older, though, and I don't have any other close friends who are big gamers. I live in a tiny town in a rural area, so the internet connection is not very good and I can't play much online multiplayer. So I mostly just play by myself and my gaming choices are not influenced by others because I won't be playing with them. This lonely situation will, I hope, improve when I move. In the meantime, I am still influenced socially, but not by my friends - rather, by this site. It gives me a place to learn about games and discuss them (as I'm doing here). It's easier and more effective than trying to tell my 65-year-old dad why I love games, a tactic I am sometimes obliged to rely on when all other outlets are exhausted.

Accuracy158
Accuracy158

My friends have almost zero influence on what console I choose.  Thank god most of them are probably on PC now anyway.

Cronyk
Cronyk

Only have one friend i spend a lot of time gaming with, and he has joined the PC elitist crowd. I plan on buying a nice gaming rig in a year or two, as money is scarce atm and my passion has always been the home consoles and the more cinematic experience i feel with them. He came up to me about a month after E3, all snide asking me if i was going to buy the PS4 since it was the "obvious choice". I laughed and have since been able to get him to lean more towards the X1 like I will be getting. 

The OS, online services, controller, and most importantly the game selection are my reasons for picking Xbox this generation.

Ayato_Kamina_1
Ayato_Kamina_1

I don't have any friends who......... wait a second

... I don't have any friends... :( 

When Danny says they'll be doing 50 hours for the Extra life game-a-thon, does that mean consecutively? Or will they be playing at the same time? Also will they be doing like they did last year with the 1 game from each year since such and such year. I loved watching the retro gaming, and would definitely check that out. Especially if they offer some online polls to choose what game they should play for each hour :D

jagcivtec
jagcivtec

Gaming has fallen to the level of smartphones, people buy what's fashionable and popular.  I personally will stay away from next gen console gaming because the trend is badly dumbed down, shallow games ahoy, and it will be the norm for next gen.  

Although I abandoned PC gaming some time ago in favor of the simple plug and play characteristics of consoles, I think I will go back to the complex PC tweaking and constant file operations got I sick of once, just to get some depth back in my gaming experience.

Sadly, console gaming has turned into a sea of shallow, over simple, dumbed down, barely challenging games.  It no longer holds any appeal to the core gaming community.  Consoles are now specifically directed to the casual market.

They have completely abandoned the core gaming community, so in my opinion, the only option for these gamers, which are now "the minority" for the the gaming industry, is to go with PC gaming.  I love the simplicity of console gaming, but dumbing down has taken over.

PETERAKO
PETERAKO

among my friends only two have some relations with gaming

one sold his PS3 to buy an R9 270X while the other has his PS3 up for sale to buy a PC

none of them play online, and both consider buying authentic games a waste of money and that you are a sucker  if you buy them and only one of them wants a next gen console.

I wont be buying a next gen console, no matter who buys it.

I used to gather with friends and my brother to play and finish games together, but these days are gone. But I aint complaining.

Now, you can probably guess that I buy games for playing alone. that is a pain nowadays though because devs insist on making games that one way or the other utilitise multiplayer interaction and on all cases this means that you might get deprived of a large chunk of game content. 

I could't possibly bother with searching for people online. Personal experience showed me that real people either are ferociously stupid teenagers that know an awful lot of what my mother did last night or can't be available anytime you are in the mood to play.

wgerardi
wgerardi

Now that Danny has done a "What Are You Buying?" episode he needs to move forward with the "What Are You Selling?" piece. Mad respect to The Stranger.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

Getting people together into a game has seemed next to impossible since I left school. Everyone is all over the place, doing different things at different times.

So whenever I just fancy a game on something the chances of having people online who can play is slim. And when other people are online more often than not I'm busy doing something else.

I mean on the plus side I can now buy whichever console I prefer because I prefer it.

My heart is saying Xbox One right now but my brain is screaming PS4. Choices, choices.

jsmoke03
jsmoke03

my friends never influenced what games or what console to get....my friends dont ever last with online gaming anyway. it is fun when we do get a party to play cod or counterstrike....maybe its just me but i find playing with my friends frustrating because we are all ultra competitive but not everyone knows how to play as an actual team....

nate1222
nate1222

To an extent, I agree with Danny. I love Left 4 Dead 2 (Steam), but mostly play it with friends online.

But the games I play most, like Divinity II (GOG) or Torchlight (GOG) or the slew of indie games I own...are all offline.

Brazucass
Brazucass

I dont have any friends who play online games. For me its all a matter of taste. PC and Sony forever!

RoOhDiNi
RoOhDiNi

I'm on PC, Wii U and 3DS

I can make me some online friends on any platform - it really is not that big a draw for me. If a game is fun - a community will form around it.

PetJel
PetJel

Always had the Playstation console from the first and so did all my friends. We all have a gaming pc on the side too. Coop is so underrated. And LANning Rainbow Six 3 and other old games was fantastic.

dpclark
dpclark

I will never play PC games online that require Steam.  You are just another slave to a corporate juggernaut.  Friends don't let friends use Steam...

dpclark
dpclark

@jagcivtec 

Good for you, but if you join Steam you gain absolutely nothing.  See my other comment below for details.

Ayato_Kamina_1
Ayato_Kamina_1

@jagcivtec I agree on the fall of gaming to a level of smartphones. I mean we're seeing a lot of style of substance, yearly releases with barely any innovation or deviation from the tried and tested. What I've noticed is that I'm tending to go towards Indie games a lot more than I used to. It's a case of rather than being underwhelmed and disappointed by the big AAA titles that are just there to sap your £40 from you, I'd rather pay £10 and be amazed at how I ended up spending so much time on what seemed such a simple game. 

I've already canceled my PS4 preorder because there's just no justification in it. It doesn't offer me anything I can't get from my PC, and my PS3 does all I need a console to do. When an exclusive comes out that I need, I'll probably buy it then. 

Accuracy158
Accuracy158

@RoOhDiNi This is certainly the truth I've made a lot of random online mates back in my SOCOM days.

NinjaGaz
NinjaGaz

@dpclark Have you actually used Steam? It is the best way to buy games. Downloads are fast and there is immense choice and reasonably priced. There are constantly changing deals - meaning that if you're just looking to try something new there's always a bargain to be found. Its a great route for small developer studios - which means gamers get more choice & theres the whole Greenlit thing where gamers can get into betas early.

I don't see a problem at all with Steam. The only reason not to use it is if you really want to keep the DVDs somewhere, or because you have pre-judged them because they are a "coporate juggernaut". 

jagcivtec
jagcivtec

@dpclark I kind of get you, but I haven't tried Steam so I'm oblivious of the facts. Now, I want to mod and tweak my PC games as I see fit and certainly will not put up with console style restrictions, like playing games as they were developed by default, with all the dumbing down included.  

That's what consoles are for.  If I can't mod games purchased through Steam them I'm sure I won't like it much.  I want to take a game apart and remove all the dumb design decisions developers integrate to their games to make them more "casual"  friendly.

Ayato_Kamina_1
Ayato_Kamina_1

@dpclark @jagcivtec gain absolutely nothing? I have a catalogue of games scoring 80+ on metacritic that their equivalent versions on consoles would have cost more than thrice what I paid. I've got humble bundles for $5 that had games that I've actually played for more than 30 hours... I'm lucky if I can clock up 30 hours in a premium AAA game that I've spent $60 for. 

I'm not saying that steam is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it has certainly put a breath of fresh air back into PC gaming for a lot of people.

amar1234
amar1234

@NinjaGaz @dpclark 

hes obviously a pirate gamer. I mean in this day and age how is it even remotely possible to be a PC gamer and not have steam installed? So many games require it.

dpclark
dpclark

@NinjaGaz

You sound too rational to be just anybody.  You probably work for Valve Corporation by the way you are defending them.

dpclark
dpclark

@Ayato_Kamina_1 

My understanding is that you can't resell games that have been registered to your account on Steam.  That goes for retail boxed games too.  I have bought and sold many PS3 games to offset the $60 price tag.  I can also buy and sell used Blu-ray movies.  But noooo... all the Steam Slaves have no such freedom.  STEAM IS BAD FOR GAMING!

Ayato_Kamina_1
Ayato_Kamina_1

@dpclark Ok Benjamin Franklin, but DRM is something that is going to be brought into play whether we like it or not. The only thing we can do is try and support the least invasive one that says "Hey, we don't want to ruin your gaming experience, but we also kind of want to make sure you did actually pay for this game". Companies are tired of having their products pirated and cracked. If it's a choice between buying into what steam is selling or being bent over the barrel by Blizzard or EA and their "you need to be online to play singleplayer" garbage... I'm going to go with Steam where you can still download and play a game offline. 

Would it be nice if we didn't need DRM at all? Sure would, but then you'd need people to not pirate. As for steam turning your PC into a glorified console... surely having the gaming oomph of a PC mixed with the ease of use and accessibility of a console would be a bonus? I mean I remember having to install games and mess around with patches and mods to set things up in my PC games back in the old days. 

Saying that, playing with and experimenting with mods in old school games that I used to play was half the fun for me :) same with Skyrim. 

I think the PC will always have its own place above consoles. 

dpclark
dpclark

@Ayato_Kamina_1

The problem with Steam is that it is a way to control you while giving you something in return for your freedom.  Just like every single government in the EU, UK, and US.  The concept of freedom is dumbed down for the ignorant and debauched masses who sell their God given birthright for a bowl of porridge.  PC is about having control, so if I am going to do that, then I may as well get a PS4 and join the much superior next-gen PlayStation Network or Xbox Live network.  Steam is trying to turn your PC into a glorified console - and now are trying to sell you one (Steam Box.)  It is obvious where this business model is going.  Wake Up!

Ayato_Kamina_1
Ayato_Kamina_1

@dpclark Gotta say that steam works so well and feels like it offers the customer so much more than what we're used to getting from the likes of EA or Blizzard that you hardly even realise it's a form of DRM as well. 

I don't really bother with the steam communities and whatnot, but for keeping in touch with friends and seeing what they're playing it's great. Also keeps your games in a nice library. 

Adavanter
Adavanter

@dpclark Steam is pretty amazing... if you want a digital future... This is the where you'll want to start. Stay far away from Origin and Uplay.