The Point - Virtual Reality: Future or Fad?

Danny explores the reality of playing games using a VR headset and asks whether this technology is part of our gaming future, or just another fad. Also he murders a shark with a knife.

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144 comments
Wensea10
Wensea10

I like this question, virtual reality has consistently been the future of video games.

Gooeykat
Gooeykat

Anybody know the game being shown at 3:18-3:20?

cratecruncher
cratecruncher

Pilot sims, horror games, exploration games, puzzle games will all be so much better played with headphones and an Oculus Rift. Imagine playing Outlast that way and then tell me VR is just a temporary fad. 

j583
j583

I think it will succeed in providing a convincing sense of presence in a game (this is pretty much the general consensus already). 

Will it become the dominant form of gaming? I dont think so, not yet at least and maybe never. But I entirely expect it to become a mainstream sort of "Gaming v2" that we will use along side traditional gaming for when we want that immersion. Theres also so much more potential than just gaming.

I really doubt failure at this point.

onlyher23
onlyher23

It will def become a hit, give it time to mature..I'd say 2-3 more years and we will have our first Sony Virtual or something like that!

tribeofasher
tribeofasher

I think it's a fad, but only time will tell. It could explode, though. I'll be the last to jump in if it does. 


For some reason, I think that having a VR device covering your eyes for hours would probably be uncomfortable and/or headache inducing.


Just like 3D, which I could care less for now.

smokeless_0225
smokeless_0225

I'm not going to lie. The thought of VR or even "Semi-VR" sounds cool. However I don't see it being used to much in the gaming world. Maybe it's because I've lived through generations where this has been tried and failed too many times. Not to say it won't work...I just have my doubts.

On the other side of the coin, I think that (if implemented correctly) this could have a HUGE impact when thinking about involving it in, military, medicine, science, etc. It may even still have an impact in the entertainment industry as well, just not in gaming. Imagine going to a mall and sliding a $20 into a machine by a chair where you can sit down (or stand on a "frictionless" surface), slide on a headset, and instantly be on the beach, scuba diving, exploring space, etc. I could see that taking of and making millions.

XCyberForceX
XCyberForceX

My opinion ......................... passing fad  (again).  This was tried decades ago and failed.  Technology may be better but the market for it is low.  


You know what people really want but the technology isn't here yet?  Holographic interactive technology  (HIT) like we see in movies and shows.  That's what everyone is waiting for!   HIT me.

jordanjs
jordanjs

"We weren't f**kin' idiots, we knew this wasn't what people fighting actually looked like..." Oh man, that part makes me laugh every time. 

Johny_47
Johny_47

All up to the developers, hope they go mad =)

end15
end15

Thanks Danny, well said.

saintwu
saintwu

I love the idea of VR! Maybe they could do a headset with a Kinect type thing. Were it recognizes certain movements like say a downard slashing movement would equate to that on the headset. Or if you see a chest you can move over to it and do a simple hand motion to unlock it. I can only hope this happens before I develop arthritis.

OBEYG1ANT
OBEYG1ANT

Haha, Hilarious Intro, Love it! Hard to say what is going to happen with the Oculus.. I still dont know how i feel about it being bought by Facebook.. Perhaps it wont be bad.. but im skeptical, I mean.. Facebook? Why!?

vadagar1
vadagar1

these type of devices would work great for space fighter games cause in space u have no gravity so it will feel less... weird, ur sitting in a fighter seat (like ur chair), holding the controls of the fighter in ur hands (like the controller in reality, more or less) and even if u pan or roll ur fighter in the game u wont feel less immersed cause if u were in space sitting in a fighter with artificial gravity it would feel the same-ish (minus the force) in sapce there is no up or down or sides...etc


but in other games like shooters it would be hard to achieve that "matrix" immersion level cause u still use ur actual body to sit and hold a mouse or controller so you will feel detached

vadagar1
vadagar1

shouldn't there be an award for guys like Danny ??!!


he is fucking awesome :D

jonny_dutch
jonny_dutch

Much better presentation than usual, youtube has enough slightly chubby blokes ranting into a camera. That beach though, looks more like Scotland than San Francisco.

PS2fweak
PS2fweak

Great video, Danny. 


VR just doesn't get me excited when it comes to games. I would much rather be in one of those jeeps from Jurassic Park or go to another world with VR. The visuals in Avatar were the best part and really the only thing I cared about in that film, so viewing that world from the inside would be pretty dope. 


I wanna see what film people can do with VR. It's not ready for video gaming yet. 

bluefox755
bluefox755

VR is a cool concept, but I think people's expectations are way too high, at least for what's coming in the near future.

Ovirew
Ovirew

Another great video, Danny.

I think you make a good point about VR appealing more as a specialized peripheral device.  I think it could be fun and useful for immersion in many types of games, but mostly just first-person outings.  When you are literally a part of the game, it limits the possibilities, while at the same time offering a more immersive and focused experience.

TORAZ
TORAZ

this show was so nice, i had to watch it twice!

marceldelta
marceldelta

I think most guys will use it to jerk off.

kennythomas26
kennythomas26

lol this was a great funny yet serious video and it was great.

tommiveceti
tommiveceti

dont make video too real. It's just scary somehow, thinking of stucking inside a virtual world. I think it's just inevitable now.

krishnaV_
krishnaV_

One of the best episodes I saw in a while.

Nice job Danny. Specially with hinting Inception at the beach.

Arees42
Arees42

It hadn't really hit me how silly it looks before I saw the thumbnail for this video. You're basically just strapping a screen to your head. I'd say these VR sets will become a reality the day they are just small devices that project the images straight into your eyes. People had issues with putting on glasses for 3D, why would they be ok with strapping on this massive beast of a thing ?

iwoof
iwoof

very deep and well articulated !

T-Un1t
T-Un1t

It's the beginning steps of VR development.  We have the technology to develop a device that completely overtakes your sense of sight and can also track your head movement.  That's all OR and Morpheus are.  But people will take that technology and develop upon it, eventually obtaining "true" virtual reality.  VR will always be a tech that we strive for, we're innately fascinated by it.

Samslayer
Samslayer

I remember when I first played the Virtual Boy...

Diablo-B
Diablo-B

Danny looks good in a suit.


Well at least his top half looks good

Flyin3lvl
Flyin3lvl

It is kinda random hold the controller and put the screen over your head..... Why buy something that goes over the head when I can hold the controller and use a NORMAL screen called a tv? Or monitor .... You can move your head to see around.... Ok i can do the same with the commonly used right stick

I don't see why this is being called virtual reality when it's not the true definition of the word virtual, it's a normal game just with the screen literally in your face and I guess to play the games the disc still goes into the console and I honestly don't see why Facebook has got involved

I just wonder tho how long people start complaining about headaches or some sort of neck strain

Sandpark
Sandpark

It isn't a fad because fads come and go. VR is here to stay but mainstream won't happen anytime soon especially if it is confined to gaming only. 

Fact: We only need a display & a controller/keyboard to play games.

Fact: VR is not going to apply to every game so it is NOT needed like the former, as there is a display called tv/computer monitor we use everyday already.


So the argument becomes which type of display offers more versatility for any situation? Yeah, it is not going to be able convince millions of monitor watchers overnight to switch to VR.


This is what sets it in stone to be niche in the close future. Depending on how wide the applications are incorporated into our everyday lives will determine whether it ever becomes mainstream or stays niche.


It's all on the software side. Being VR doesn't necessarily mean companies make more money over what we have now. Until that day VR becomes mainstream. I suppose we are going to see a few developers that take gaming to new heights with most other developers tacking VR on being horrible.


If I was Sony or Rift, I wouldn't force VR on any developer but work side by side with any developer to create great games. And welcome any competitors because the worst enemy is trying to monopolize a dying niche versus digging into a thriving larger pool of VR gamers.

mikemaj82
mikemaj82

Until they can figure out a way to develop it without the need of a device you have to put on your head, it will always be a fad.

quakke
quakke

Future. Eversince the 80's and 90's (Judge Dredd movie with Sylvester Stallone forexample) already, people have been after a true 3D experience. Though, i'm disappointed that Facebook accquired Oculus.

bsford
bsford

It's a Fad. VR will never be mainstream, fact.

grin89
grin89

really wanna play eve valkyrie, also best episode ever.

ganondorf77
ganondorf77

Future was shown in Caprica TV Series. That was awesome concept and vision of what VR could become.

GunEye
GunEye

Best The Point ever!

Loved the beach scenes!


Call me crazy, but I don't really believe those headset face-goggles will be effective as a VR instrument.

VR won't truly take place until someone invents the technology to tap into brain-waves and transmit information, image and "worlds" into our brain via electrical impulses.

Yes... yes.. you may call it Sci-fi mombo jombo now, but nothing is impossible, and the brain does in fact work based on electric pulses.


So that kind of VR can induce real feelings such as pain, heat, etc.

I mean seriously: if a company make that kind of VR - I will be the first to sign in, even if it's risky as hell!

kyelo
kyelo

Personally a bit of tech I want to see is wrap around monitor that can replace the 3 I currently would have to use(PC), Samsung have released a curved monitor so if they could join three of them up so I don't have any frames in the way that would be perfect.

Unraed
Unraed

So I've never used an Occulus so I have a question.  Normally you aim a gun bow, etc. using a stick or mouse.  But this also changes the direction you are looking.  With the Occulus do you aim by moving your head?  That seems kinda wierd.

Jawehawk-DK
Jawehawk-DK

Die bird! DIE! Hilarious :D


But yeah, I don't belive VR will be all that succesful.

chibi-acer
chibi-acer

@saintwu  Sounds cool, though already we have people smashing furniture while playing Kinect and other motion based systems.  I'm trying to picture people playing these games while wearing a 3D headset that blocks their view of the physical world around them...it doesn't end well. :)

vannacut
vannacut

@Flyin3lvl  providing images for both eyes at right angles creates a 3d image thus depth. that s what they talk about making you feel like you are in a virtual world, with a 3d tv there are many obstacles in between you and the screen to distract you from immersion. this VR thing is a really nice thing but it s not an invention, an innovation...(hopefully im right about the definitions)


jhpiv4
jhpiv4

@bsford  It won't be mainstream, but whether it will be a fad remains to be seen.

snaketus
snaketus

@grin89  I really wanna play Eve Valkyrie, just hope it doesn't require this nonsense.

The-Neon-Seal
The-Neon-Seal

@GunEye I agree with you. Throw as many peripherals at it as you like, but vertual reality won't be truly embraced untill it it something more. I always imagined that 'something more' as being similar to the net diving sequences in Ghost in the Shell, there it is you and not your body interfacing with the program/device.


Same as 3D. 3D won't work until you can watch it without needing stupid glasses/goggles.

jhpiv4
jhpiv4

@Unraed  A motion tracked gun is the most natural solution, but most keyboard & mouse games have gone with a deadzone in the middle so you can move the gun without moving your head right away and vice versa.

It's not the best solution.  First-person games don't work as well as games that have you in a cockpit.

GunEye
GunEye

@Jawehawk-DK yeah me too.... not gonna work for now unless it's some Mech / spaceship / driving game - when you sit still in a chair and steer your head.