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shiss27
shiss27

"Wii." Therein lies the major problem...the name itself. Not just the name though, but the constituents that came with that name ‘Wii.’ Original Wii controllers work with the system. This detracts from its novelty and ability to stand alone and unabated as a true, NEW, next gen console. It's backwards compatibility. Another detractor. Why would grandma and grandpa buy another Wii that plays the same games? Price. Although price certainly helped sell Wii systems, selling many more original Wii's than prospected is also a poignant reason as to why the Wii, U, didn't/isn't selling.


Grandma and grandpa as well as middle aged workaholic, soccer mom, and ‘he who does the fad thing’ are casual gamers. They don’t even know when (or what) next gen is but they do know ‘alike’ which is much more important in the decision to purchase or not purchase a Wii, U.  The separation of “Wii and U” is being obviated because this is how I believe consumers are viewing the Wii U in general…as a Wii with something else added to it. As in, the Wii U has ambiguity surrounding its properties. Not just based on the name but because the name is magnetic and contends to a flashing beacon of warning signals of ‘same’ or similar. And adding up its parts – low price, Wii controller compatibility, backwards compatibility, and name – equals new Wii and not ‘Brand New Better Console.’



I’m sure sales projections of the Wii, U, was to a degree, partially based on original Wii sales. Too bad grandma and grandpa don’t keep up with the times. Nor does soccer mom.


Nintendo needs to appeal to hardcore gamers now...it's their only hope. Why? Because the Wii, U is losing steam quick and hardcore gamers will play if the games are geared with them in favor and are more likely to drive sales and popularity of video games which can sell units. Strange enough...I almost purchased a Wii U but I already have a Wii. 

RoachRush
RoachRush

The touchpad controller actually has a LOT of potential. I can definitely see it being implemented in an MMO for extra buttons and such, or an RTS type game to command troops. Devs just need to bring new ideas to the table instead of relying on the FPS/Third person shooter formula.

Another idea for the newest Zelda game that pushes the strengths of the Wii U: Make it CO-OP! Everything is either single or online multiplayer nowadays (mostly the latter), and we are in dire need of more co-op games! Imagine two players supporting each other as Link and Zelda, with one on the gamepad and another on a controller or Wii mote! Just think of the possibilities!

Suaron_x
Suaron_x

Games aren't the reason.  Some of their biggest names failed to spur sales.  Yet everyone keeps proclaiming they need more games and it'll sell.  They have more games and exclusives than either the PS4 or XBone right now.  Here's a clue...it's not the games.  It's not the name either.  If people were the morons some of you claim them to be...nobody would be buying the original Xbox (i.e. XBone).


The Wii U is on par with the 360 and PS3, but the price is not.  Nintendo needs to sell the Wii U at half the price of PS4/XBone.  Teens/adults tend to buy/want the Sony/MS consoles and the Wii U tends to be for the "kids."  You won't get parents to buy the Wii U at a $300 price point.  Nintendo can't compete with Sony/MS until they offer something with the power of the PS4/XBone.


The most obvious thing to do is eliminate the touchscreen controller and get in a real gaming controller (not the remote control shaped thing of the Wii).  Better yet throw in two controllers and a game.  Then sell the Wii U for $199.  Make the touchpad controller an optional accessory.  The touchpad isn't something I want.  It's a gimmick that's failed.  

McNeelyJ39
McNeelyJ39

to survive the Wii U needed smash brothers and a zelda/metroid game out before the other current gen consoles launches...Not sure if I would still be open to buying a Wii U now, even if Smash Brothers came out in April.  Too many other new experiences to play.

weaguey
weaguey

Games, Games, Games....


Smash Bros

Zelda

F-Zero

Pokemon

Metroid

Star Fox


Then I'd buy one

balrogbane
balrogbane

Super Mario sunshine 2 that would sell Wii Us

Someguy1212
Someguy1212

Its called SSB. Instant Money. Always has been always will be.

Huut
Huut

Instant Wii U succes: Let Nintendo finetune Dolphin on the Wii U and let me play the whole library Wii games in HD

bloodyrooster
bloodyrooster

Mario Kart Smash bros will sell the Wii U quite fast

acryion
acryion

Let me see.


There is no reason to buy a PS2 anymore, since you can play all PS2 games on 1st gen PS3 and PCs.


The only reasons to buy an Xbox is for Halo 2 and Splinter Cell Double Agent. Other games maybe? that I don't know about?


There are more reasons to buy an X360 or PS3 because there are a lot of console exclusives.


There is no reason (for me) to buy a Wii because you can play them on PCs


There are reason to buy a Wii U, because there are enough games. If it's a console for your child, especially more then.


There is no reason really at the moment to buy a PS4/X1



My opinion.

gamecreator91
gamecreator91

During this gap in PS4 content and games, I've actually been warming up to my Wii U, finishing up Wind Waker HD and playing Rayman: Legends. I'll be playing Super Mario 3D World soon too.


However, the glaring annoyances of the Wii U seeped their way back, despite the fact that I was having fun.


-No killer app right now that keeps me coming back to the console.

-Poor battery life of the Gamepad


But man, using the unique features of the Gamepad like dragging platforms and turning the Gamepad to manipulate things in-game in Rayman really makes my purchase feels worth it. These are the kind of things that keep me coming back. 


Hoping the best for 2014 for the Wii U, really looking forward to Bayonetta 2, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze and hearing more about Zelda Wii U.

adventuremind
adventuremind

they will sell more if you kiss every buyer with those juicy lips...

adventuremind
adventuremind

they should make fatal frame 5 on wiiu - console is made for that game

nparks
nparks

Nintendo can sell me a Wii U any time they want.  They just need to announce two things this year and I will run out and buy one immediately:  1.  Price drop to $200 or less, 2.  Reggie Fils-Aime's departure (fired or resigned, doesn't matter which).  Heck, I'll even grab a 2DS and a bunch of games too.

Darth_Aloysius
Darth_Aloysius

The Wii U is a pretty amazing example of what a bad advertising campaign can do to a product. I mean look at it, its a fantastic console, yet its flopping massively.

ecurl143
ecurl143

Christ - how many times can you repackage the same story and call it news?

honeycomb06
honeycomb06

Yall do know that all this "Wii u is failing" talk is to motivate nintendo jus like 3ds when it was at that same stage.....and look how it turn things around nintendo gon be fine there still kinda nit picking and play round to see what there competition doing so they can....give us a better expierence and better  games.......Nintendo got a enough money to make a next gen console if they wanted....they know already that they really don't need one right now because games are still being played in 1080p.....I can bet any kinda money when dem 4k tv's start dropping nintendo gon be working on they next gen console so it can run on it while the PS4 and XBOX 1 will still be using 1080p

Poodger
Poodger

Smash Bros will sell the system

AmbiguousAlias
AmbiguousAlias

I got a Wii U for Christmas, so I hope it's not doomed. Honestly, the gamepad is wonderful for Wind Waker HD, almost completely absent for Super Mario 3D World, and a bit frustrating for The Wonderful 101 (granted, I have only played the demo). That said, I think there's a lot of potential that Nintendo is failing to capitalize on. The system itself is actually really good, there's just a skimpy selection of content to choose from. Come on, Nintendo! I know you can deliver some killer games for this thing!

kambion313
kambion313

A couple things wrong with the Wii U.

1. The name... it confuses people

2. The price, too much for last gen-ish hardware (should be $199)

3. The marketing campaign 

4. No Zelda or Metroid

5. It's hard to develop for, unless you're Nintendo, apparently 

6. The changing "gamer" demographic.  Everyone thinks they are a gamer now a days because they play Madden and CoD.  SO, when a console comes out, and doesn't have those games, it's hard to sell. I think Zelda is a core game.  Reading these comments, it seems people only think Nintendo develops for "casual" players, which couldn't be further from the truth.  Truth is, no one other than people that have played games since the mid 90s want Zelda, Metroid and Donkey Kong... which is sad.


Things NOT wrong with the Wii U? 

1.  The game-pad... I have no idea where you people are coming from.  I love it, and I don't see it as a gimmick.  You know what is a gimmick? Some stupid camera that barely recognizes voice commands, and makes your console cost $500 dollars.


darkljolly
darkljolly

Don't know which is worse Ouya or WiiU

astaynax
astaynax

I've said it before and i'll say it again the library is horrible on the wiiU I have 3 games for it and from what I have seen is upcoming, DK, Mario Cart, and the new x game are the only things I'm remotely interested in.  That being said The 3ds has an excellent library for the rpg starved people in particular. I currently have to go back to the ps2 or emulartors for most (imo) good rpgs, so if they kept with the game boy advance on game cube idea here with the ds and 3ds on wii U, since it has the 2 screens needed, it would greatly increase the sales of the wii U and it might even get me to buy a 3ds if its needed to play said games connected to the wii U and therefor increase sales for both the handhelp and home consoles.

NoHyperbolePlz
NoHyperbolePlz

This is a quote from the Rev3 impressions video of the Wii U at launch...

"wait WTf, wii u came out in 2012? I honestly didnt hear about it til this year o.o"

That's a week old.... scary.

GameYakuza
GameYakuza

I don't want retrocompatibility. I want retrocompatiblity with higher resolution, aka what emulators can do perfectly.

Scarshi
Scarshi

If you could play Nintendo games on an Xbox1 or PS4, it would still look and play the same. Better hardware does not magically make better textures. How realistic do cartoon characters have to look? Everyone needs to chill out about the polygon count already.

Nintendo just made the mistake of labelling their Wii upgrade poorly with a tablet controller that should have been a separate choice.

Hopefully their next console will be named something with more flair and less forced gimmicks.

YearoftheSnake5
YearoftheSnake5

@Suaron_x 

The Gamepad is a "real" controller. The only significant difference is the touch screen. If you take that away, Wii U is little more than a weak console with only a price to make it competitive. It would take away one of the few things that makes the Wii U special.

dummpymonkey123
dummpymonkey123

@Suaron_x Why would the get rid of the touch screen controller are you one of those shallow people who would rather be comfortable and slightly adapt a good idea or would you rather show the word something compelling and new?

Coren_Larken
Coren_Larken

@McNeelyJ39 Yeah, I'd love to buy one, but it's gonna take a lot to get me there now. It isn't that I don't support Nintendo, but when there isn't anything that appeals to me, there's no point in spending the money. Now that they've released WWHD, I've thought about it--but I've done without for so long I'm not in a hurry to pick it up.

YearoftheSnake5
YearoftheSnake5

@Huut 

Nintendo should outright hire the guys behind Dolphin and give them access to Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U documentation to overhaul Wii U's backwards compatibility. They've done a great job figuring it out on PC, as I can only think of handful of games that aren't emulated correctly.

jon_bone
jon_bone

@gamecreator91 You can get a better battery for the wii u, have you seen the nyko battery for the gamepad?

DWalker131
DWalker131

@nparks  i'm all for the pricedrop but that is waaaaay too slack for nintendo, the wii u isn't even 2 years old yet, some people (myself included) think that the wii u should have competed with the x360 and ps3 for the main reason that the wii had inferior specs, the x360 and ps3 still sell for 250 - 300 and i think is about 6 or 7 years old, so it is abit slack to tell nintendo to sell their less than 2 year old console for a lower price than last gen consoles, besides it hasn't unleashed it's iconic games yet (mario, metroid, zelda, dk, mario kart) the sales should improve, its like the ps4 and x1 right now, theres not really any outstanding games for them yet, but the wii u has been idling for waaay too long in my opinion and thats one of the console's downfall, no must have games just yet

inso-maniac
inso-maniac

@kambion313 "You know what is a gimmick? Some stupid camera that barely recognizes voice commands, and makes your console cost $500 dollars."

great quote should be used more often

lazarius12
lazarius12

@kambion313 I agree with everything yousaid except #4. Not having Zelda or Metroid is no inherently a bad thing for the console. That could be personally upsetting to you, but to say it's a systems flaw is like saying the PS4 is garbage until it has God of War 4 and Uncharted 4 on it.

astaynax
astaynax

@kambion313 I agree with you 100% other then the game pad is rarely utilized to its potential even by nintendos own games with makes it kind of a sad selling point.  But with that being said I was quite skeptical about it myself and would not have gotten it yet if it wasn't for wifey but I must say the games I played met my expectations for the game play and the gamepad surprised me as it wasn't that bad.

astaynax
astaynax

@darkljolly I have both and can say honestly neither was a waste of money, so I guess to me at this point I prefer both over ps4 and xbone since both library's have absolutely nothing that interests me at this point not saying it wont change tho.

lazarius12
lazarius12

@astaynax What three games do you currently own and generally what do you find yourself interested in playing when it comes to games?

DWalker131
DWalker131

@lazarius12 @kambion313 i kinda agree with both of you, well it is unfair to call a PS4 console garbage for not having GOW, but then again, then again if a console got released but been releasing lackluster 3rd party games instead of the games that they are popular for, it is abit of a downer for the console

astaynax
astaynax

@lazarius12@astaynax Mainly rpgs but I like platformers and action adventure aswell and currently I have super Mario 3d world, new Mario bros/luigi U and wonderful 101


lazarius12
lazarius12

@DWalker131@lazarius12@kambion313Sure, but that's the thing though, the Wii U has amazing games already. There's a small group out there that wants Zelda or Metroid badly (like kambion313 above), but then there's also a small group of people (like myself and others that I know) that want Pikmin, Mario and Smash Bros. Nintendo can only please so many people at once and all of those games are deserving of being on the console as quickly as they can be. Some of the fans are bound to get upset, but it's no reason to call the system flawed.

lazarius12
lazarius12

@astaynax@lazarius12 I don't mean to sound like one of those Nintendo fanboys that attempts to push games on you, but I would recommend Pikmin 3, even if it seems more like a strategy game. It's not as fast paced as Wonderful 101, but it's still a fun adventure that's well worth your time. Unfortunately there isn't much else to recommend for you next year, other than what you've already brought up. :(