The Gist - 3 Reasons Why You Should Care About The Dark Souls Series

Whether you're a huge fan of Dark Souls or you've never picked up a Souls title, Jess tells you why she thinks the series is so important and successful.

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D0BR0
D0BR0

haven't got dark souls 2 yet cause it's too expensive but beat the first two.  i got prepare to die and it reminded me of master ninja in ninja gaiden which i beat a loooong time ago. but dark souls has better art direction, its like this weird kind of horror like feel.


i saw you playing amnesia, that was funny.  you should play res evil for gamecube.  i beat nemesis again recently cause i hadnt played that in awhile. nemesis is easily my favorite one, him ****ing chasing you and being able to kill you that fast is the ultimate survival horror. and i love real survival horror. and nemesis himself is awesome too lol

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

Thanks for this. I was on the fence about this game. Now I know I will not be playing it. (no offense). I understand there are some gamers that want their game to always be challenging for whatever reason. But for me, I only have about 15 hours a week to play. I'm not going to spend 10 hours trying to get thru one part because I have to "master" it.  I just don't have the time. If every game was like that I would never finish any of them. I like the games that give me the option of how hard I want it to be. To me, that seems like what developers should offer to appeal to the largest demographic. Because at the end of the day, they make games to make money. Period end of story. If there was no money to be made nobody would be making them. So with that said. My point again is if they offer the option of levels of difficulty, then everybody wins.

Spybreak
Spybreak

Nah, a game's design should be fundamentally scalable and not just really hard or really easy. Being able to play a game on normal or on hurt me plenty says a lot about the game design's quality and you can see this with classics like Doom and recently with the Mass Effect games. You play the game squarely differently and it still is because it's hard, not cheap.

OHGFawx
OHGFawx

Thank you From Software for the Souls series. They are a return to form for those of us who grew up with challenging games that didn't hold your hand and treat the entire audience like incapable children who rage quit when they don't get their instant gratification fix (we were kids, but we also had mad skillz yo). Unlike the mindlessly easy "AAA" games we see more and more of each year that are catered to a broader audience for the sole purpose of increasing sales, the Souls series actually respects your abilities as a gamer and simply lets us do what we do best......play, adapt, and win.

snakebite6x6x6
snakebite6x6x6

Kingsfield series....Souls series....


From is absolutely one of my favorite game development studios.

clr84651
clr84651

Other game devs need to learn from this series on how to make a game rewarding, challenging, and fun all mixed perfectly together to make the best overall experience. 

lorider25
lorider25

I thought there was supposed to be 5 reasons?


is it that bad?!?! haha

Xyekenvort
Xyekenvort

To sum the video up: Dark Souls is better than your favorite game.

xeis-net
xeis-net

Just amazing game, last night, I read a comment and as it did not say "trap" I opened the chest, as it dawned on me "beware mimic" was probably a call back to DkS...Doh! Having been munched to within a slither of dying I ran around the corner to get some distance to to drink an estus, right into a red phantom with with a shield evading weapon. lol! utterly mashed :D

werewillf
werewillf

Just tried Dark Souls 1 and loved it...until I had to replay the same stretch a million times and just gave up. I admire the game and the difficulty is kind of refreshing, but I want to delve into a game when I play, not replay the same parts over and over. Just a personal preference. Definitely a great game.

KnowsNoLimits
KnowsNoLimits

Most rewarding series out there. It can be punishing, but it teaches you to get better. The combat is amazing and the atmosphere is perfect.

It doesn't hold your hand with useless boring QTE's and that's always a plus in my book.


Bring on Dark Souls 3.


rhenom
rhenom

The guy in the video talking shit about Diablo 3 being easy is retarded. None of the Diablo games are difficult on normal mode, that's why there's nightmare and hell mode, not to mention hardcore.

Tommysea77
Tommysea77

Last night met a random guy on DSII and we spent a few hours helping each other out with bosses. Took about 20 attempts but we finally beat the Ancient Dragon together after figuring out all the bosses moves and how to work effectively as a team. The sense of achievement was incomparable to anything else I've played and my heart was pounding as the mean ole dragon finally went down! Speaking as someone who got 100% achievements on Dark souls 1 I can honestly say the struggle and torment is worth it. You need perseverance and patience for this game but when you finally beat the game it's you who feels like the boss! Pure genius and this is how games are meant to be.

Gankstar_VX84
Gankstar_VX84

hi Jess.I love the "Souls" series. One of my all time fav games was Severance Blade of Darkness for PC way back when, and when Demon's Souls was released it was like the best thing ever. 


However various things pull the series back from true greatness. The story is always an excuse to be killed by shit. The difficulty of the game only seems to add novelty to exploring an area that would otherwise be a breeze. Never any puzzles that force you to stop and think.


Sure they are atmospheric dungeon crawler games. as far as that goes they are without a doubt BEST in class, but they could be so much more then a lifeless mission stomp, they could be truely genre defining like the original Tomb Raider was back in the day. The Souls series is in a unique position to really start a trend here but as it is they focus too much on combat and alienate a large portion of the player base that would otherwise love the games.

jessie82
jessie82

ill still wait till its dirt cheap before i even think about buying it

SpLiTMaN
SpLiTMaN

When is it coming out to pc!! god the wait itself has me dying...and i just want 8 players in Diablo again...

lonewolf315
lonewolf315

If it had a driving narrative I'd play it. As it is I've gotten bored an hour or less into each entry. Just kind of felt like I was wandering aimlessly and killing things for no real reason.

Loshead
Loshead

this game is amazing!!

Tsuchikage
Tsuchikage

What I love most about this series is how unique and fantastic each entry is.  Even series like Uncharted, Halo, and Dead Space have had relatively subpar entries, yet the Souls games keep getting better and better.

GunEye
GunEye

I resisted my urge to buy this game on the first week of release like I did with Demon's and Dark Souls.... In order to get Dark Souls 2 on the PC on the 25th of April.


I tied myself, and padded the walls, and I started consuming random substances to counter the withdrawal.

Soon.... this will happen! soon.... April 25th can't come sooner! :)

@tempertress Hey Jess - have you finished all 3 Souls games?

GunEye
GunEye

3 reasons:

Because it's Dark Souls.

It's Dark Souls.

It got 3 Souls games.


(Jess I love that awesome Devil May Cry 4 poster :D!!!)

jonnyb81
jonnyb81

I love Souls, and there's a part of me that doesn't want the series to be too mainstream.  When I hear someone say they don't like it, my reaction is "Good!  I don't want you to play it!" If someone doesn't "get" it, maybe they should just stay away and leave the game to us who do get it.   I love the fan base it has, and I don't want to waste my breath trying to recruit new fans... as long as From keeps making more! 

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

Great show.  Great presentation.

A lot of good in-depth points for newbees to understand the game.


Unfortunately, I won't play it because I have too many games already and not enough time.

Thanks for enlightening me.  I'll keep it in mind.

I still think many other games are more fun and fun for time invested.

lostn
lostn

I can understand the game makes you die and learn from your mistakes, but I'd be more willing to give it a shot if it didn't punish me so hard every time I did die.

Unfallen_Satan
Unfallen_Satan

Convincing. We can certainly use a few more single player games like this; too many are focused on an immersive experience where the player lives vicariously through the game, where 20 deaths total (let alone in one area) would completely unravel the experience. More games like DS II would be good; trying to be more like Dark Souls would be bad for most RPG today.

I think the prevalent emphasis on difficulty in discussions is a bit excessive. The challenge certainly makes the game work, but DS players are not masochists. They enjoy the difficulty the same way chess players seek out better opponents. The other side of the coin is that many who shun Dark Souls are not so much afrad of a challenge as they do not find entertainment value in heavy investment to get better at a game; they simply want to experience the game world.

Know Thyself. Personally, I take my beatdown from TBS or TBS/RTS hybrids.

hystavito
hystavito

I commend the Dark Souls series for going the route of high difficulty, but it doesn't seem like a game I would enjoy because I don't like repeating sections over and over.

rsj2
rsj2

I love Dark Souls and this video, and I agree wholeheartedly.  

On the question of what impact the Souls series might have on the rest of the industry, I think it's worth noting how much experience From Soft have got in making this sort of game (see the King's Field series, the first of which is 20 years old).  

Making a game that's tough yet feels fair is probably pretty hard, and with such a widespread trend toward easy RPGs (Skyrim and Diablo 3 being the obvious examples), it makes you wonder who else but From have got the guts and the skill to replicate Dark Souls's magic.  Maybe CD Projekt Red?  Can't think of many others.

I guess we'll see when Deep Down comes out.  Good luck following Dark Souls II, Capcom (seriously, if it gets good reviews I'll probably pick it up).


alanpk
alanpk

Cheers to Souls fans!
And cheers to you too Jess

zerantoss
zerantoss

Great video. Dark souls ROCKS!

Ailurusf
Ailurusf

There was something else in Dark Souls that set it apart: its tone. The punishing difficulty was enhanced so much by the fact that the game was so damn bleak. Few other games have reached such levels of emotional involvement without using the usual means of narration. The world of Dark Souls looks like a world with history, not just a simple scenario for a game. It invites you to think "what happened here?" instead of just dumping you thousands of lines of "lore" or annoying cutscenes. In a way, it seems to tell you "you are not the story of this place. That story ended long before you came, and everyone lost". The only other game I think achieves that is Shadow of the Colossus. 

For me, Dark Souls was simply *the* best game of the previous console generation.

clr84651
clr84651

@lorider25  

She said 3 at the beginning. You didn't pay attention.

Also look up at the title. 

jordanjs
jordanjs

@werewillf  I had the same problem with Dark Souls, but came back to it and have prospered thanks to wiki's and YouTube. Some may think it's cheating to get help outside the game, but they've really helped me get back into it. I actually appreciate it a lot more now that I understand how basic stats affect things like your endurance meter, poise, etc. (Basic stuff, but possible to overlook if you're spoiled and just want the game to play itself!)

xeis-net
xeis-net

@werewillf  Dark Souls II addresses this, personally I prefered the DkS 1 approach, but dark souls ii stops the mobs respawning after X number of times killed (maybe 15)....

crujoness
crujoness

@rhenom  They other difficulties are not that difficult either. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed D3, but I thought it was kind of blah. 

rsj2
rsj2

@lonewolf315  You've probably heard this before, but there *is* a narrative, you just have to dig a bit.  Check out VaatiVidya's Dark Souls lore series on YouTube.  I enjoy story in a game too, and that series has unfolded whole new layers of appreciation for the Souls games to me.

ubik-atreides
ubik-atreides

Dark Souls 2 is totally mainstream. It's good though, we'll get more games that offer a stiff challenge.

Ailurusf
Ailurusf

@SaintsRowLA  You should put this one towards the top of your priority list though. It is really 'something else'. 

Suicide321
Suicide321

@lostn That's the reason why you need to "Gid Gud" to not die. Once you finish the game you'll understand what it means.

Loshead
Loshead

@Ailurusf  I agree Dark Souls is my favorite game of last gen. 

lorider25
lorider25

@clr84651 You're the one that needs to learn how to read.


The gist is usually 5 reasons/things. The joke is she only has 3 reasons to play Dark Souls means it must be that bad if she can't even come up with 5 reasons. Anyways it was a light joke don't get your feathers ruffled.

VegasDawg
VegasDawg

@crujoness @rhenom  Lol, all you have to do in Diablo is left click, game is retarded. You new to games or something?