Strategy Game of the Year: Nominees 2012

These are GameSpot's Strategy Game of the Year Nominees for 2012.

Discussion

74 comments
PoliteElliot
PoliteElliot

X-Com definitely got it right and it was a big success, but I just started playing Endless Space and its a far, far better game. I completed X-Com (the ending was anti-climactic) but had little urge to replay it. ES on the other hand, once I won once I couldn't wait to try out a new race and new strategies. Very replayable...

sumdood
sumdood

Crusader Kings II's gameplay and replayability is far superior than the other candidates.  I've put close to 300 hours into it so far.

Renato1984
Renato1984

First playthrough of XCOM on Normal Ironman was some of the best videogame time I've ever had in my life.

Stesilaus
Stesilaus

Judging from what I've read on multiple websites, there's broad consensus that the AI players cheat brazenly in Endless Space, even to the extent that they can simply ignore the game's economic constraints and give themselves huge fleets that seem to materialize from nowhere.

 

Shame on GS for even giving Endless Space a good review, let alone a Best Strategy Game nomination!  As long as games like Endless Space can win accolades instead of criticism, developers have no real incentive to design and implement sophisticated AI algorithms, so they'll just keep churning out crappy games with cheating AI.

 

jpnelson82
jpnelson82

Tough one, XCOM EU is strategy lite and much more mass market. The others are hardcore strategy and PC exclusives. Does Gamespot reward the popular game or the hardcore deep strategy of a game like Civ V.

I_am_Xero
I_am_Xero

If only Xcom EU wasn't that short, if they didn't took away some of the gameplay from the original Xcom (more bases && base invasion), and added sandbox mode... i would have voted for it to be the game of the year! still Xcom best strategy game for me ^_^

veyeper
veyeper

X-Com  for sure Awesome game

Leon_aditzu
Leon_aditzu

why are put Turn base strategy with Real time strategy in a generic strategy games, it like combining the fps with action games. why gamespot don't split strategy games in RTS and TBS? are to few genres, shooters for FPS and Third person Shooters, Role-playing for rpg and mmorpg, racing for arcade driving and simulation driving,

shaggyaz
shaggyaz

Civ5 Gods And Kings,but where is Shogun 2 Fall Of The Samurai at?

Hillsy_
Hillsy_

FTL or XCOM for me, nothing else.

ViggyNash
ViggyNash

I think coming into the Civ series with 5 was a bad idea since it took away many things and simplified the whole ordeal. I liked it at first, but the endgame got really boring and repetitive.

Prometheus
Prometheus

Civ 5 with Gods and Kings is my favorite, but since G&K is only an expansion I'll vote for Endless Space.

Strategygamer22
Strategygamer22

My vote would go to Crusader Kings 2, but all of these games deserve to win in their own right.

RayzerTag
RayzerTag

Dear XCOM. Please go to hell.

 

I love you.

kazumashadow
kazumashadow

Oh man X-COM was pretty awesome, can't say for the others because i don't really play strategy games.

kozzy1234
kozzy1234

FTL and Xcom are both so amazing,

iBuSHiDo
iBuSHiDo

I've only tried XCOM. Somehow I feel like these didn't get enough attention for me to even notice them. Now I'll have to look into these a bit. 

thomaselderton
thomaselderton

Damn... People need to make more strategy games if this is the year's shortlist. XCOM is a brilliant game tho, it wins this category  hands down for me.

vaibhavp
vaibhavp

whoa I have not played a lot of them ... what a shame.

Shane747
Shane747

Is strategy dead? I want Warcraft 4 :(

Stesilaus
Stesilaus

Dear Christ Almighty, I'm getting so sick and tired of the Contre Jour advertisement.  :(

 

Vojtass
Vojtass

Gods and Kings is a medium size expansion pack (not even standalone) - it doesn't deserve to be on this list. GS just doesn't follow strategy games market, which is... yeah, mainly on PC.

haafie
haafie

Crusader Kings 2, both hands down and in your pockets

Morokoo
Morokoo

Well, just like every other section it is obvious what will win.

blackace_143
blackace_143

XCOM is obviously the winner. The other games don't stand a chance. 

illmatic87
illmatic87

What's odd is that I thought Wargame: European Escalation did strategy better than any other game this year.

 

But I'll go with XCOM. Loved it for its tension and atmosphere.

angelyote
angelyote

Oh no, Xcom up against Crusader Kings 2...with whom do I pledge my allegiance?!

madsnakehhh
madsnakehhh

Wait...no Shogun? but yeah i'm agree with most of the coments, X-Com should take it without much problem.

Zaydin-1990
Zaydin-1990

A shame you left SoaSE: Rebellion and Shogun 2: Fall of the Samurai off the list; should have been on here, considering I hadn't heard if Crusader Kings 2, FTL, or Endless Space.

PANCZASU
PANCZASU

 @Stesilaus This proves that you should not judge a game before you play it yourself. I've spent over 150 hours in Endless Space and there is no such issue. There used to be a problem like this - but it was during the beta, hardly something you can judge. Right now, if you select a higher difficulty level the AI does get some bonuses to help it, but it's by no means game breaking.

Also, the devs of this game keep updating it post-release with tons of improvements (including AI improvements); they already released two free add-ons and are about to release a third one. So in my eyes, you have no right to say that "developers have no real incentive to design and implement sophisticated AI algorithms" as it's just insulting.

Please think twice before you make more posts like this, calling games "crappy" when you have never played them and complaining about issues that has been resolved long ago. I mean no disrespect to you, but it's something you should consider.

kkxtrouble
kkxtrouble

 @Leon_aditzu We would get many categories with just one or 2 games, and  some other games would be very  hard to place in a category.

CK2 for example is a real time strategy game...that you can pause and still play, it's very different from your regular RTS like starcraft.

IGFGAThrawn
IGFGAThrawn

 @thomaselderton   GameSpot has a problem with the categories and the games that belong in them. ME3 is not an RPG, Dishonored is not action/adventure, Max Payne 3 is not an FPS, and Diablo 3 belongs in strategy.

general_kane_na
general_kane_na

 @illmatic87 W:EE needs a lot more of love, so far is the only new RTS I have been playing this year and it represent a very different approach on strategy, for people who want stuff other than SC/C&C steamrolling/rushing tactics this is a must-have.

dio81
dio81

You missed a few of the best games of this year.

Stesilaus
Stesilaus

 @PANCZASU Your point is well taken.  The AI-related criticisms that I read online were directed at the release version of the game (not at the Beta), but I was not aware that the AI had been subjected to substantial revisions through post-release updates.  And I'll concede that it wouldn't be fair to single out this particular game when virtually all other games of its kind also resort to some kind of cheating to boost the challenge.

At the root of my annoyance is the frequent failure on the part of reviewers to draw attention to AI that cheats so obviously that the AI players don't even seem to be playing the game by the same rules that are imposed on the player.  (Another example: In every Total War game, AI players pay no maintenance fees on their armies, yet I don't think I've seen a single GS review of a Total War game that mentions this.)

A game that cheats in such a manner needn't be dismissed as "crappy" if it's still fun to play, and I regret using that adjective.  However, IMHO it IS reasonable to expect that that level of cheating be mentioned in a professional review.