Looks fantastic. Fantasy vs technology! Hell yeah I have some of that bad boy!!
Hmm I wonder where I'm going to put my characters house :)
It's good to see some creativity, hard work and originality in Rift. I will most likely be playing Guild Wars 2, but I'll be playing this when it comes out as well.
I am still infinitely impressed by Rift, but I feel like either a strange pride or hopefullness keeps them from going the route they need.... which is f2p.
To everyone who won't pay $15/month for an MMO... really? This is the cheapest entertainment I pay for in a month. I didn't like GW, and I can't see myself playing GW2. This Rift expansion has me very excited, and I can't wait to see it!
i feel compelled to say to everyone that says GW2 will exceed this game: sure it will be better but im sure there will be people who prefer games like Rift and WOW. I personally agree with you, i will only ever play these games if they go free to play like GW2 and you can find me in GW2 because it deserves to be played for the work Arenanet has put into it. But Rift is still cool and it has my respect, and if it ever goes to free to play you can find me playing this game to. AMEN.
Wow... Rift is getting some of the best looking content I've ever seen added to a game, that includes WoW.
Why are they showing the 3D designers as if they are the only ones makings the game : programmers do as much if not even more work. Show some respect to those who actually have a college degree.
Hat's off to these guys for all their creativity and hard work. I can't help but think though that Rift:Storm Legion will get trampled by GW2 and MoP.
Cant wait for GW2 to come out.
It will be just another run of the mill MMO and all the fanboys will get bored of it within a month, and then they can stop bombarding boards for other games with their drivel. Flame on kids!
pretty good mmo, had fun playing it, but with GW 2 so close I just don't see the point to continue on playing it.
The majority of these comments say something along the lines of "Looks cool, but ima take GW2." I DUN UNDERSTAND. Other than the lack of subscription fee, what do you people see in GW2? It looks... terrible. I'm not playing any MMOs right now, but I want to.. so I'm looking into all of them and GW2 looks far and above the most boring of them all. So tell me, please, ... why?
@Cogzwell Why do they need free to play? Just because it's an MMO doesn't mean it has to be F2P, Rift is incredibly succesful with it's current business model. Have a shred of intelligence and don't go with the F2P hivemind.
@Visii the fact is , when i last played it mages were getting bent over a barrel because of being balanced soley for pvp , the clerics were pretty close to god mode after they hit a certain prestige rank. i said no not touching that game ever again , it was being managed HORRIBLY for class balance , wow is no better in some sense but i havent seen wow do anything so bad that the only viable way for an archetype could really participate in a raid and be just as successful or surprass some of the others is by playing a healing mage role instead of having the freedom of all the souls that the game has. so no $15 a month for a game managed in that way i will pass on ANY DAY. its not a matter of price , its a matter of im not going to pay money for a poorly managed game because of only ONE ASPECT of it destroying the other.
@Visii well, when youre 15 bucks less and were 15 bucks richer, you tell us how you feel
@ddesolatorr ehem... I'm a 3d artist and I have a masters degree. everyone I work with has at least a college degree. Also, its hard work regardless of study, and yeah programmers rock too but there's no need to put down the 3d guys
@ddesolatorr As if a college degree merits credibility... I personally do have a degree, but what that's saying is I have a bit of self motivation to spend some time and pay some money for someone to teach me something I can learn on the Internet for free.... A college degree doesn't mean shit. Go and get a "lesson for dummies" instead of being in debt 70k. That's a drastic exaggeration mind you but it's getting my point across.
@ddesolatorr I'm pretty sure the 3D designers have a college degree too.
Its free to play until u reach 20 lvl
@Mimicry GW2 isn't all that, in fact I think it's been poor so far in it's beta stage, the only thing it has going for it is FTP. As for wow, panda's + screaming 12 year olds.....Nuff said. So Rift: SL trampled on, I can't see it tbh.
@Mimicry as long as it maintains a healthy population to sustain and expand itself it enough.Big population means also tons of 12 year olds and annoying people,better off without them:P
@baal46 im confused with what youre saying. Guild Wars 2 will be another run of the mill or Rift will? because GW2 will definetly not be a run of the mill
@spikepigeo 80 levels with no grinding, full custimizable story lines, story mode and around 4-6 explorable modes (each mode completely different then the last one you may have played) in each dungeon (each Dungeon with its very own armor set that can be fully completed after going through the modes in each dungeon as a either a collectable reminder of that dungeon or as a serious piece of armor if it exceeds your current) Dynamic Quests or "Events" that pull you into a group without ever attempting to send them a request and each one scales up in difficulty by number of players, and an actual combat system with dodging and all. and of course to top the whole thing off, no monthly subscription fees required.
@spikepigeo im right there with you gw2 looks to be a major disappointment. their combat system is supposed to be oh so innovative and exciting, but its more like a haft done pizza. maybe we need a few more years before the mmo scene comes up with something worth wasting time on
@spikepigeo Maybe, its just not your cup of tea? I played GW1 and enjoyed it greatly, but the PvE got boring to me after I got a nice set of armor and capped at 20, and PvP in that game wasn't my thing. But in GW2, they really raised the bar tenfold in PvE and PvP looks more intense and fluid.
I won't say no subscription fee isn't a factor (because for me it is), but plenty of people are rightfully excited for GW2 for many reasons, especially the people that played the first one.
@spikepigeo Don't feed the Troll..........
@Xandoom "Rift is incredibly succesful with it's current business model" okay where can i verify this? they are holding for sure but if down right incredibly successful i think not.
@Enundr I don't PvP at all so I cannot comment. Otherwise they're constantly trying to balance classes and honestly... every game has balance issues and there will ALWAYS be one class QQ'ing at any given time.
There isn't any issues with balance at this moment that I can see.
@Jtsupersonic 15 bucks or 9 quid a month hardly breaks the bank does it? In fact I could probably make 9 quid in an hour, sub sorted.....Even if your still in school I'm sure you get that much a month in pocket money or allowance.
@theoddmike you go dude! go 3d designers!
@voivode777 I mean completely free to play, like SWTOR is going to be.
@ScouseLemon what beta have you been playing? stress test have been the only moments ive seen where its had bad moments , scouse you really didnt play the beta did you?
@Jtsupersonic Won't it? Funny, from what I got from the beta's it's exactly that. Run of the mill... Go here, help so and so. Go there, kill 10 of these. And the dynamic events......Hmm I wonder where they got that from........
@spikepigeo and a PVP system, if youre into it
@mudermor if youve ever actually researched it, and played other MMO's for at least say a year, you would understand how frustrating the combat can be, how boring the quests/leveling actually is, and how much money you end up spending for it all. but, luckily you come across a game that ACTUALLY ATTEMPTS to make a better combat in an MMO, makes leveling about the same time to level up as the last time you leveled, and banishes quests to Hell and decides to throw some story into it, and have Dynamic Events that spawn just from you walking around and just tell you you want to do this one, rather then tell you you are forced to do this one. and then finally you have no Monthly Subscription and the online store only houses things like clothing, and things that will not help you in-game, but rather make you look a little bit cooler. That's why people are so impressed with the game, because the developers are actually trying to let their fans have a good time playing the game. so before you start forbading it to Hell how bout you actually research a little bit and find out whats up.
@mudermor I wouldn't say it's innovative, it has a dodge button, hardly innovation, just something added that makes the game more hands on instead of a button mash.
@KamuiFei Funny thing about subscription fees is that they shouldn't be a turn off at all for someone wanting to try a game. Likewise, a lack of subscription fees shouldn't be a selling point. Why? Because the first month is always free anyway! Maybe once it goes down a ways from 60 bucks I'll give it a shot.
@KamuiFei The PVE is ten fold maybe by guild wars standards, but other than that, Im not impressed. The PvP is alot of fun though, Ill give it that. However thats not why I play MMOs, but alot of people do, and most of the people excited for this game are in it for the PVP.
@Jestersmiles He's not trolling at all....
Come on, man. We all know what trolls look like. I'm not trolling, not by a long shot. I've watched all the GW2 gameplay i can, i've scoured the website, I SERIOUSLY am asking why. What is the meat of this game that has everyone drooling.
@ddesolatorr i can completely respect that dude
@Jtsupersonic well I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings guys but I'm just not much of an art guy and think that not only on this video but on general on developer diaries they never talk about the programmers who IMO have as an important role as the 3D designers.
@ScouseLemon GW2 isnt P2W btw Scouse , ive seen the ingame store , its ALL cosmetics , exp rate boosters , mini pets and all stuff that in no way fits the definition of pay to win.
@Jtsupersonic Jtsupersonic , make sure you remember that theres F2P and P2W (guild wars 2 is true F2P) , knowing EA theyll have TOR go in a P2W kind of style , but i dont care to find out anymore. just saying F2P isnt all the same , but GW2 is a true F2P model
@Jtsupersonic I'd rather they took my 9 quid a month and kept giving me content for free thanks. None of this pay to win crap.
@Hate_Squad i dont think that matters at all. Guild Wars 2 could easily go to a subscription based buisness model if they wanted to, but theyd lose a ton of customers and as of today free to play mmos with real money stores are making plenty of money and its smart that SWTOR is going free to play (kinda) because they will attract many more customers (like me) and i hope Rift and WOW realize this because they will continue to make even more money today and have more players and will continue to have more money and players for a long long time.
@Sev_X1 seeing that its the second most successful subscription based mmo i dont see it going free to play anytime soon
@Enundr If you say so mate, I pre ordered a few months ago so got to take part in the beta weekends. But it's obvious I didn't play it right........(rollseyes)
@ScouseLemon the heck are you talking about? last i checked the area quests (heart quests) you jsut do stuff in the area , doesnt have to be the same specific thing , the dynamic events can do different stuff , like you help take an outpost , sometimes youll get another DE to go on the offensive on the enemies to finish them off , sometimes you have to defend it. Scouse , after seeing all your posts here , its obvious you didnt play the GW2 beta AT ALL.
@Enundr did i say that the one good feature about gw2 was making it less innovative? no i didn't. i give up on this. people read what they want not what they write. rift is awesome btw
@mudermor @Jtsupersonic and yet in the beta , ive managed to handle my survivle in GW2 so much easier cause i can actually manually dodge the big attacks , rather then just sit there hoping i dont get killed like pretty much other mmos , makes it less innovating? im sorry but your sort of failing here mudernor , the fact that you can manually dodge and survive on knowing the right time to dodge , no holy trinity , no quest log , but a map that changes from DE. you clearly did no research AT ALL other then just look at short videos of the game. or made assumptions , whichever.
@Jtsupersonic i dont get what your trying to say mate? i get that you're really into gw2, perhaps even a marketing pug. perhaps you shouldn't make the assumption that if people dont have your view they haven't played mmos, im not saying gw2 is a bad game its just not what it should be imo, in the same way that secret world had most of the components for the ultimate mmo but failed hard by having that ancient combat system. so to sum it up for you; gw2 has a lot of improvements over say tera but it still falls short because the devs dare not take any risks, which is the main reason the mmo genre has stalled the way it has. and so this last sentence will be to remind you to not make assumptions about people.
@JohnF111 yeah and thats why i wrote my comment the way i did.
@slpr21 you say that like wow has good pve? as in World of Warcraft
@slpr21 Um all mmos are a fetch quest grind fest ect and they all will be until some dev breaks the cycle and figure away to make it better. but until enjoy whatever game you like.
@MXVIII im sorry so let me understand what your getting at. essentially you believe that the reason why you think this game is stupid is because the PVE is and i quote "lackluster" so youre saying you would actually prefer say WOW pve which is even worst then Guild Wars 2? I'm sorry unless you want to play Skyrim there isnt much better that involves combat in an MMO compared to Guild Wars 2. so if youre still not impressed with it, good luck looking for better in another MMO.
@slpr21 No I was completely bored by their lackluster PVE, and storyline. Granted TOR had alot of boring fetch quests, but man their cinematics made it for me. Plus the differences in quests really made a difference, it was just wierd for me to go from killing swoop gangs and torturing prisoners within the first five levels of TOR, to Helpping farmers, and playing with wolf pups in GW. Sometimes Setting, and themes go just as far.
@MXVIII Oh you're a pvp player, then you're gonna love it.
@MXVIII If you're not impressed by GW2 PvE, then you can stop playing MMO's right now... because no other MMO has PvE this fun, good.. not even WoW.
@spikepigeo you have secret world , not exactly a fantasy MMO and that sucks hard. so your logic in "another fantasy mmo" being something to use as a reason to say its not good has no point here. you can thank EA for that one btw ;-P
@slpr21 add to that i have yet to see someone get 1 shotted by a single person cause of a gear related issue , like a certain other MMO does. besides some pve balancing issues on some big world event bosses (like the fire elemental) game seems ready to go.
@slpr21 Well I think Tera is better you actually have to use skill not you hit me I hit you btw turn based games are crap and I am just to tired of the lame system of ah can't use skill have to wait my turn so I can get hit but if I play Tera like I do I have way more fun all skill not little kids game of chess.
@slpr21 "...and PvP is more competitive than any other MMO before." Other than EVE Online, you mean. ;)
It makes perfect sense that there's a huge level of feeling I'm missing compared to those who have played the beta -- I get that, but videos and developer diaries go a long way to tell anyone watching them that this isn't going to be the end all be all of MMO's everyone has been waiting for. The combat, while not innovative at all in my opinion, does get rid of the holy trinity which is something I have to tip my hat to. Other than that, it's just another fantasy MMO. I will definitely look into once it launches, but I just can't see it being special.
@slpr21 Yeah I agree, it's everything I've looked for in an MMO all in one game, no sub, no holy trinity, a brilliant universe with eye candy galore. WoW was fun for the 4 years I played but if I can even get half that from GW2 then It's money very well spent.
@spikepigeoThe hype isn't coming from people who base their opinions by watching videos, it's actually coming from people who played it... the combat is miles head of any other MMO, the trinity is gone, the PvE has a completely diferent feel and PvP is more competitive than any other MMO before. Besides, everything feels great, polished... it's a AAA MMO without monthly fees.
And yes, the game isn't perfect but its far superior to everything you have in the market right now... rift included.