Reality Check - Why Do We Love Old Games?
Cam investigates the science of nostalgia in this week's Reality Check.
I can most certainly pay respects to nostalgia. Resident evil..tomb raider...megaman...contra. Thank you for those days
It can remind your off your youth and how we all want to stay young, happy times with some quality times on some really enjoyable and hand made games
We have to respect the older video games because many of them are inspiration for the contemporary ones.
becoming aware of our mortality helps to create an emotional state open to nostalgic ideas of bliss.
I just finished playing Zelda: OOT on my 3DS. I haven't played that game since my cousin and I finished it in about 50 hours over about 20 weekends when I was 13 (I'm now 26). I remember thinking to myself before I turned it on 'Now it probably won't be as good as I remember it.' I was so wrong, that game is still amazing and I actually enjoyed it more now I can understand and appreciate how well crafted and clever the game is in comparison with today's (lets face it) crap.
Nostalgia doesn't make me feel sad, it fills my up with joy :)
I think it comes down to the mere fact that old games came from a simpler time when you plugged the console in, put a game in and played. No sitting around for hours waiting for updates and installs and having to register a username. Plus old games were short but had high replay value. Seriously you all gush over Last of Us, but how many of you returned it to the store as soon as it was finished. If it was so good, why haven't you played it over and over again? Not to mention modern gaming is marred by microtransactions, fee to play, bloated cutscene heavy games with padded content and online networks full of homophobic brats screaming into headsets.
Love nostalgia, keeps me sane... as sane as I want to be anyway, nothing wrong with a bit of insanity =P
I recently took out the NES to play some old school games with my brother. Ice Hockey was still a blast, Double Dragon 2 is still the shit, and we both still suck at landing the plane in Top Gun so honestly, not a whole lot has changed in 25 years haha
For me the PS One was where it all began.Tekken,Resident Evil,Spyro,Syphon Filter,MGS,the Jackie Chan beat em up,FIFA,Medal Of Honour,Mortal Kombat...Those were the days.PC and consoles were almost completely different and had their own set of games that was more suitable on one platform than the other.My favorite PC titles from the past are probably Red Alert 2,Half Life,Doom,Warcaft 3,Road Rash (I played the PC version) and tons other awesome and challenging titles.Sucks that games began to become dumber and dumber ever since consoles took the reins.
I've gotta say that I find the vast majority of joyful gaming memories are best left as memories, and I should stop trying to revisit them.
God knows why I've held on to my MegaDrive for as long as I have.
My biggest video game memory, which drives me to play again and go into Nostalgic mode will forever be:
dum da da da - Diablo 1.
I was visiting a friend in the summer of oh so many years ago. We were kids back then, younger than i can remember. It was a very hot summer. My friends older brother, which i was always fascinated with because he could write code (already as 13 years or so he was a pro), had three friends over, and they were playing a game i had never seen before. Diablo. I remember looking at that and immediately added it to my wishlist for christmas. I remember the first dungeons i saw was the 7th or 8th level, which was just as you wandered into the caves, under the Monastery. I remember thinking there was 4 types of classes, because i could see one with a bow, one with spells and two with swords, having two different looks. (later realized that the two swordsmen were both warriors, but with different armor levels). I was just sold at how fun it looked, and the 4 old classic white tower computers linked together in a web of cables and an otherwise not that attractive basement room. I even remember later that summer, that they were ordered to go outside, and outside they went. They packed all the gear and computers and chairs and all, and went outside to set up the whole thing again, then lastly they put sheets over their heads and continued playing. wow, i wanted that.
I have never had a video game experience quite as memorable as that one. And mind you that i was not allowed to play, just watch. I got the game for christmas. The game could not run on the home computer, only my dads computer, but i was only with my dad every other weekend. That was my life until i got a PS1 at 7 in the morning after my mom went and bought it in an outrageous sale in 1998-99.
Lesser moments i have had with GT1 and the enormous frustration only an 11 year old can get when playing license challenges and cant drive recklessly at all. :)
My most nostalgic experiences are Quake 2 and Wipeout, which are the two first games I ever got, for the playstation. I played them for soooo long, but was never bored as far as i can remember. Played split screen for 6 hours traight in Quake 2 and became crazy good at aiming with the word aim controls (no analog sticks, you aimed up and down with R1 and L1) - Good times.
Feeling extremely Nostalgic at the moment. Just finished reading the last book of robert jordan's 'wheel of time' series. Considering that i started reading it in my 8th grade, i should be!
Now onwards to Steven Erikson's Malazan Series!!!!!!
For sure. More than modern shooter and open world.
Because each game has its uniquty, even in low bit graphic.
For me it's Sonic3&Sonic&knuckles, and Sparkster: Rockett night adventure 2. Those games reach deep into my sole with nostalgia because they where so epicly done by communicating non- verbally there-by sending a transcending message of adventure, excitement and stylized action.They brought a certain peace and tranquility as well as colossal excitement with them as they permanently etch it in my mind whenever I revisit or replay them. They remind me of the the days when the 90's was a phenomenal, well defined and timeless. Great times.
Completing the original Dragon Quest on NES and feeling like a video game demi-god. However today, the game bores me after 5 seconds of play. =/
I remember having a blast at the arcade playing Black Tiger! Playing Atari, Intellevision, Colecovision, Commodore 64 at home was fun as a kid. But it wasn't the same as going to the arcade and smashing it with other gamers next to one another. Everyone gathering around the Fighting Street machine with their coins stacked up on the panel waiting for their shot to bust as many heads as possible. Those were the days.
I remember on my 6th birthday my entire family got together at our grandparents' house. Both my dad and uncle are engineers and have rigged the place with computers, which at the time were the dinosaur desktops. The whole family, aunts and uncles, cousins and myself were playing Diablo 2 LOD. It was an obsession, and that was somehow the only game that everyone in my family would play and since then the only thing to bring them together like that again has been the Wii in a much more casual sort. But I still fondly think about my dad and uncle playing together facing down the babarian lords in town 3 and the paladin my uncle was playing was a bit weaker and kept dying, while my dad playing a barbarian was running around dropping potions for him trying to help out. It was so weirdly exciting and compelling how it brought everyone together, that game. Wish there was something like it again for my family, but I don't think there will be. It was one of a kind, and I don't think nostalgia has changed that.
heading over to my friends house to play Goldeneye, then Perfect Dark multiplayer and competing on the stats we had on our memory cards. we also have tape recordings of our tantrums and rants which we now laugh at and question what the hell were we thinking XD good times..
Mine is leaving the cheap Vietnamese knock-off of SNES on for the whole night, because there was NO way I could ever get an actual SNES here in the Czech Republic at that time and I wanted to finish Contra even though I could not save the game. Skip a couple (10) years forward and I got my hands on the same game from the Playstation Network and I was amazed at how I could have ever passed more than the first couple of enemies. :D
BTW Super Mario Kart 64 was the best Mario Kart for multiplayer IMO unless something came out on the Wii I should know about :D
The claim that it's all nostalgia ignores things that those older games did that are rare in newer games.
Let's take Chrono Trigger as a prime example. A rather simple game, but there has never been another game quite like it. I personally found it annoying and frustrating and couldn't bring myself to replay it more than a couple of times but many people found it endearing, they loved the story and concept and found no end of replay value in the New Game + mode and the multiple endings and various character stories.
That's not just a matter of Nostalgia, people loved the game for what it offered that few if any games have offered since.
For me it's the MMO's that stand out most. New MMO's are mostly bull shit WoW clones and I hate them. I miss old school Shadowbane and stuff, and that game had no shortage of issues, I just loved so much about the concept and player driven nature of it. Luckily there are a few recent games similar but no game has ever quite captured it all.
No other game like it.
It's not just a matter of rose colored retrogoggles, it's also a matter of unique gameplay experiences that we will never see anything like ever again unless it comes from kickstarter.
Cam, once again, awesome work. I envy you that you get to pick all those great relevant topics and discuss about them like this. This time you really nailed it.
I have some very dear nostalgia moments, most of all with my brother back when we were kids, and strangely enough, even some few-years old memories feel nostalgic and brings back memories. Warm and sad.
I guess it because of the way time flies, and life progresses.
Playing the Baldur's Gate series with my brother. Discussing it enthusiastically with my friend at the elementary school. Playing even older games that I don't remember their name (English wasn't my native tongue and still new to me as a small kid). ah......
Only recently me and my brother went through our: "top funniest moments in gaming history" - and recalled Half-Life hilarious glitches and brutality to scientist... :) some awesome LOL there.
Also when we are kids, we have much stronger emotional feedback from events, that's why when we are adults we much likely remember some event that toched us emotionally as we were kids rather than adults
I have nostalgia for the Atari 2600 days when gaming really was a family activity growing up, but most of my gaming life beyond that has been immersion in the single player experience.
For me the only place in gaming where nostalgia is consistent and glaring is graphics. It's astonishing to look at a game less than ten years old from the PS2 era on my HDTV and realize how relatively bad it looks. In my mind's eye the games were never blocky and harshly unrealistic to look at, with things like flipper hands never having existed. Then I play a game and it's staring me in the face, and I feel betrayed by my own brain.
What does 'eleviates' mean?
I don't really get nostalgia around video games, but I do around children's television programmes in particular. Bucky O'Hare...Sharky & George...Super Ted...
Good times. I wouldn't watch them now though, because I know they won't live up to how I remember them.
my dad and I playing our brand new nes on christmas. We played so much mario I got blisters on my thumbs and my mom pop'd em with a needle.
games have always been in my life i was 3 years old and had the atari in our house way back in 1988 then it just went on commodore spectrum amiga nes...and so on
Old games are fun to play again for about 15 minutes. Then you remember why you stopped playing in the first place and toss it back in the closet.
We love old games, as they quite often remind of us of a time when we were teenagers with not a care in the world, that hadn't been ground down by adult life. I get nostalgic for Chuckie Egg on the BBC B Micro. There has been no other game in the last 30 years that I have put as much time in to, as I did with Chuckie Egg in the mid 80's. I also get nostalgic for my Neo Geo console that I had in the early to mid 90's, as it was the pinnacle of console gaming at the time. I really wish I hadn't sold it; and did I see a clip of the Neo Geo game 'Viewpoint' in the video? Pretty sure I did. Loved that game, but fuck me it was difficult. It was also quite difficult to track down a copy, and I had to pay around £200 for my mine. Crazy when I think about it now, as these days I try to not spend more than £20 on a game.
Many retro games I love despite having no nostalgia for them. I'd never played a Megaman game until this year. I think they're good games. Not a new favourite but I'm enjoying slowly working through them.
Most of the games I feel nostalgic for are still great games when I replay them. Some are good but inaccessible by today's standards, for example the insane difficult of many nes era games can make a barrier to revisiting. But you'll adjust to the difficulty by immersing yourself in a few games for a bit.
Some games aren't up to scratch anymore due to the technical limitations of the time. Stunt racer fx has shocking fps than compared to my memory, and mario kart on the snes isn't acceptable any more. Star fox has poor FPS and technically pushes things beyond the limit of the snes, but it's somehow still an awesome game to play. I enjoy it as much today as ever.
Some games were flawed in ways that are now unacceptable and out classed by later games in every way they were good. I'm thinking of Secrets of Mana and it's awful combat.
Some games had, what was regarded as, the best graphics on the snes, but to my eyes now look like hideous low quality pre rendered 3d graphics... I'm obviously talking about Donkey Kong country. (It still has great music)
Some games I like more as an adult than when I first played them as a kid, this includes both Zelda 2 and Zelda: A Link to the past. I don't love them. Although I enjoy both.
BTW: Full respect to Zelda alttp. It's a brilliantly made game with puzzle orientated dungeons and great controls that's probably responsible for its immortality, but it's not a game I've ever loved.
While somewhat true that old games aren't as good as I may think them to be, I am still able to play games such as Final Fantasy vii/viii and ix, but will probably not enjoy them as much as I used to.
Really liked your video , well done! I love old games and still play some to this day thanks to the wonderful world of emulation.It started off When i was young, I got a second hand ZX spectrum , the most memorable games were : Kokotini wilf , Kickstart 1 and 2 (which was trials evolution before trials evolution!), thanatos(skyrim reminds me of this game.spent years trying to remember the name so i could play again), curse of sherwood and hunchback. Then moved onto c64 :Dan dare games, Joe blade games,Ghettoblaster, Target renegade, kung fu master , who dares wins 2 ,nexus and the best bat and ball game ever imo, Krackout. Then finaly graduated onto the amiga with IK+ , wings , too many 2-d point and click adventure games to mention,Hunter , shufflepuck cafe, swos 96/97(playing it recently) champ manager games , it came from the desert, f29 retaliater being amongst favourites. All that and i havn't even mentioned ps/xbox.megadrive games.
@incrediblmullet I'm playing it at the moment and I was thinking I'd also be slightly disappointed but I was completely wrong. Even my girlfriend who played for the first time last year thinks it's amazing. Ocarina of Time is simply an amazing game. :D
@GunEye How's it taste?
@ApastronHm, must have been a typo; should probably be "alleviates" (lessens or relieves).
@Subterfuge71 oh Chuckie Egg 2....god dammit...the first time I've loaded a tape into my fathers zx spectrum...my only thing to worry about was to eat...and sleep...
now I need to worry about finding a programming job in a country that is new, and I'm just a nobody...nothing...shit...
@rad8045 ... Derp
@Expopower@GunEye@Apastron you know, what you make sense. But I thought he means that there are two sides for the coin of Nostalgia: brings warm memories, raises confidence and strengthen our social/family connections: but gives that bittersweet realization - the sadness that these times are past, won't happen again. And that sad longing feeling.
but yeah, watching 04:00 seems like you are right
@GunEye@Expopower@ApastronIn this context, I don't feel this makes sense. Since Cam noted that it was a good thing that nostalgia "eleviates" sadness, I would imagine that he meant it lessens it (alleviates), not increases it (elevates) - since the latter is certainly not a positive effect.
Something else to note is his pronunciation of "eleviates", which parallels that of "alleviates" rather than "elevates".
In a purely written form without context though, I'm sure your interpretation would be perfectly valid.