Reality Check - What Makes Hardcore Fans So Hardcore?

Superb question man, this really goes toward people forcing video games to be part of them every second.

Great episode Cam, very interesting

I love that "if you are a gamer with a capital G you will eat mac and cheese to fund your gaming habit"

- yep.... Tis true.

Counter Strike probably gets most of my hours. ARMA 2 is getting a sht load of my time at the moment also.

I bow to no game

Both you and Seb referred to the increase from maximal strength to absolute strength as a third. True, the gain is one third of your maximal strength. But raising 2/3 to 1 is an increase of a half, not a third.

It sounds much cooler to say that we become up to 50% stronger when we access our absolute strength!

Ingroups = Tribalism. for example separate nations are modern day ingroup tribes. Nothing new here.

On another note I always thought about trying Eve Online. MIght give it a shot, my type of game.

just like it mentions in the vid, when you put forth time and effort into a single item, you become part of a community that is exclusive and apart from others.

another example would be with the console wars. PC owners that game, build their own rigs. they take the time to research the hardware, the compatibility and troubleshoot if necessary during initial boot phase. consoles, plug and play. so there's the separation on that.

anyway, good episode. played SWTOR for 2 yrs and taking part with a community is what prolonged my departure. difficult when it happened.

Nice ad for EVE.

"A we group and a them group. A we or us and everyone outside of us."

That's the basis of a cult--just exploit it.

"Gamers with a capital G will forsake everything and eat mac n' cheese or noodles and sacrifice everything for their game."

He got that one right.

Gamers with a capital G are just like heroine addicts, meth heads, alcoholics and most any other drug addicts.

Massive Doctor Who fan here *raises hand*.

Trekies... Pfft...

Wonder when will Manchester United will actually learn to play? It's pathetic to watch those wussies running after the ball the opposing team has all the time

@ 1:46 - its freaking Mclovin!!

When life gets rough "Gamers" eat noodles while "casual gamers" buy food instead of games?????

This is one of the stupidest things I've heard in my life... and I've heard a lot of stupid things...

So, even tho I play games EVERY single day, but I can't buy all the games I want because I need insignificant things like food, clothes, a house, etc I'm not a "Gamer"?

I dont really see whats so good in being called hardcore. That would make people think I spend whole days in front of my PC and never go outside. I have a friend who is that kind of hardcore. But I like just to call myself fan of the game or game series. The same way I am fan of some kind of band. Ofcourse I spend about 300+h in Skyrim. Witch is A LOT for me. But it was in the period since game was released till now, witch is a bit more than 2 years. Anyway its still game I spend most time in it.

Well ... that explains the console war. Pretty much what I expected anyway though

eum ok why are you targeting eve on this one....the fanfest isn't Hardcore fandom Its an Actual community Wroking as a whole to create a game...if every companie would take as much time on there player as eve online does there would never ever ever be another COD.....it just so happens that most eve players are from that part of the world there not actualy traveling that far....

Oh man, I love social psych.

1:36

Where can I get that outfit?

Great video. Eve Online looks like an awesome experience, but sadly, I doubt I will ever invest the time it would take to get into it.

I think this gets thrown around too much. Fanboys try to call themselves hardcore gamers which is a complete joke. Fanboys spend more time on website forums than actually playing games. Fanboys are insecure about their purchase so they have to criticize what others get. Fanboys try to persuade others to like only what their console of choice offers and dislike games on other consoles that they have never played or never even seen. Fanboys are NOT hardcore gamers.

Hardcore gamers are the ones who play every game they own to the extreme, a gamer that is open to all genre's and likes of games, will play an 8-bit indie game in the 8th genre of consoles, actually comment on game forums for community and information. Thats my idea of a hardcore gamer. not some poser fanboy thats close minded towards another console...

Sounds like tribal/clan affiliations that stuck around in the modern world, or perhaps tribal/clan affiliations are a form of fan base.

Is this an "all rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles" set problem?

To be called a hardcore gamer is a compliment. Being called a fanboy is not.

What's going on with hardcore fans? Mob sheep lemming fanaticism. That's what. Gaming had its heyday in the late 1990s. It went to shit in 2005 -2006 after everyone was forced online and the last decent sports games came out. Now 90% of the market is dystopian shooters that celebrate a cartoon culture of violence and death as fun pastime. How many of these games can you play before overkill sets in? I miss sports games. Without them, the industry has become saturated by a RPG genre of one trick pony gaming.

Was this video really just a plug for EVE Online in disguise? Because if so, it worked. I kind of really want to play it now.

to me it is the same as what we call casual and harcore gamers ... a stupid term for assholes who needs to only play M+ games because they are soooooooo hardcore.

I never understood being a fan and defending something so bad ... I do what I do and love what I love and the day to won't speak to me anymore I'll go somewhere else ... I don't need to bash others to feel better.

Saddly this is how it is here ... all of a sudden I feel nostalgic of the day the only gaming news was through mag that came out once a month ...

Reminds me of fanboyism.

One sentence could have explained the entire concept. Sport's fans.

LMAO was that Greg at the end? XD

Anyway, great episode Cam :)

After reading the title I'm thinking... next video please =P

@ladies_man_xxx COD is a casual social game that requires little commitment from its users.