Reality Check - Eve Online Epic Battle Science
This week Cam points the Reality Check Science Cannon directly at MMO RPG sensation Eve Online.
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If we made it a law that every person has to be buried on the moon. In million years what would the moon look like.
I've said before, the $300,000 price tag in real terms is a massive overestimate because it's based on PLEx prices. Buying PLEx for ISK is kind of a quick start feature, it's not really a good basis to convert value. In fact there isn't really a good basis to convert value. If you want further evidence it's wrong it featured in fox news headline (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/01/28/unpaid-bill-costs-gamer-200000-in-eve-online/?intcmp=trending)!
As for the man hours to build ship, it's really character hours. The actual man hours are a tiny, tiny fraction of that.
Fantastic episode. Really tickles my imagination. One question about the mining is after discussing the value of water as radiation shield and for sustaining life/food is whether this would be more helpful for ships/stations that may be in the works, or if it would make more sense for colonies, like on the moon for instance. Are either of these things developing to the point where a mining undertaking could be needed in the near future? I'm wondering how this company is staying solvent when it seems that their service may be ahead of its time.
The Russians had ~ 21 millions casualties during World War II.
I know this has nothing to do with this reality check but I never would of imagined that Cameron Had Curly Hair. I wonder why he keeps his hair so short now. Maybe his hair started going really thin and decided to cut it all off. I thought I would of had hair all my life. My Grandfather on my dads side lived into his late 80s and still had thick hair. I am the First in my Extended family on my Dads side to have such thin Hair. Its thick on the sides and thin in the middle its been that way since 2008 at age 28. I actually went out and bought a baseball Hat. I've never wore hats in my life I thought I looked goofy now I have Many baseball hats.
Read nice tales from EVE Online in THE EVE LIFE. Nice videos, posters and stories about brave pilots and war.
One day asteroid mining, interstellar travel and space colonization will be common for humankind and none of us will be there to witness any of those amazing events. That we're going to lose so much from our race's progress makes me really sad. :(
I'm not familiar with EVE but I want to understand this. Was this battle triggered entirely by some players making a mistake and others vying for their resources/territory? It wasn't like a scripted event that players were invited to take part in? It just happened like genuine human events?
I mean, I'm not into MMOs but that sounds AMAZING!
Reading about these EVE battles is so fascinating...and then you watch the video and think, 'Is that it?'
I echo calls for an episode about the realities of space battle, like the fact that space is a vacuum therefore there's no sound, and how vehicles would actually maneuver. I imagine it would be quite different to those shooty things in Star Wars.
Speaking of combat about Eve Online, it would hae been neat if you went into the logic behind what an actual space battle would be like. Most space dramas have us fighting it out at relatively short ranges. You'd think that with faster than light travel, warp gates & the like, we'd have developed a means of killing each other from farther away. I suppose that would depend on whether we had FTL capabilities or not, and just how much sensor lag (how long it takes for a radar ping to find its target and ping back to you) we'd have. I'd imagine we'd probably be firing smart missiles at each other from many millions of KM away.
Yeah, somebody really needs to build a mag cannon to launch space craft and supplies. Rocket technology is so inefficient it's laughable.
I tried to play EVE on line and the games sucks. If you haven't played before the instructions on what to do or how to do anything are next to none and the cult that is EVE online won't help you
This game generates some amazing news stories. I'll never play it but its hardcore-ness is just awesome to keep up on.
EVE is so engrossing... until you play it for an extended period of time. I'm hoping Star Citizen can deliver a big player driven world but with ACTION. Also, I hope Aubrey DeGray and other scientist can get this life extension stuff figured out so I can tell my great great great great great grand kids what it was like on Earth.
I salute anyone who can tolerate Spreadsheet Battles Online, aka EVE. It would exhaust the hell out of me, and frustrate me to no end when I would inevitably be pirated by numerous other players.
I wish I had an idea for an episode, but the only ones that come to mind are about comics, covered by Rusty in Science Friction. Love his channel on YouTube xD
Interesting note of EVE lore: The first two titans stripped an entire populated planet bare of their natural mineral resources, and their nearly incalculable mass caused tidal problems when they came too close to that planet. Look online for videos of titan scales compared to other ships; they truly are awesome in every sense of the word.
@TehUndeadHorror I am available for audiobook recordings.
@ejlaipjeathh What happened in EVE was a battle; a single encounter which resulted in conflict.
A war is made up of several battles over an extended period of time.
The Russians may have lost 21 million to fighting, but it did not happen in a single battle.
@gohanrage Are you Cam's inner monologue?
@johnd13 That is why we play EVE Online :)
@RuthlessRich Exactly :)
@RuthlessRich Player triggered.
@RuthlessRich everything in Eve Online is "Player Made". Its like real world but in space. Everyone trying to gain more territories , more resources and everything.
@Falzonn We don't know what an actual space battle is like, nor does that technology exist yet, or maybe it will never exist outside of fiction.
But to explain what the concepts of battle within the realm of fiction you turn to the source.
But to explain a theory based on EVE online combat would be boring as hell as its a load of number crunching with armor repair modules, shield boosters and min-maxing capacitor drain, lock on-ranges, ECM modules, and of course, the 10 minute delay to warp jumping with a titan class ship.
@Torvar72 has a steep learning curve so it sucks? interesting logic
@thatguy_b What medical research companies really need to do is stop their current research and pool money into nanotechnology. It's like the grand unification theory of medicine.
@amdreallyfast Awesome...until you realize it's just make believe. lol...
Really? Players did that?
I suppose that I underestimate how cavalier EVE Online players can be towards anything in EVE Online's fictional universe.
@cameronrobinson @TehUndeadHorror maybe you should do a reality check episode on spore you know the one published by EA .is evolution really scientific ?.
@animesuki12 are you seriously comparing HUMAN lives to an ONLINE game battle? Get real please, thats nothing to brag about...Russians lost 21 million during the war, who cares if it didn't happen over a single battle, the point is 21 million lost their life.