Out With the New, In With The Old: Video Game Rage
Everyone gets frustrated with video games sometimes. Some people just get extra frustrated. Gareth Robinson talks about his video game rage and thinks about the games and mechanics that cause it.
Had lots of rage moments in Flick, Revenge of Shinobi(specially in more complex double jump sections, although I've beaten the game after some practice).
Or, let's see... Fatal Labyrinth. You could die of EATING in this freakin' hard RPG.
And last weekend I was playing Metro 2033, and I had to go through the same part over and over, just because of dying due to poor collision. That part that you must run from monster in that phantom train station. Sometimes I got stuck in some door passage, others I got stuck at the back of a NPC.
God of war 3 for sure. One of the last battles against that three headed dog that would spew out a bunch of little annoying ankle biters and then the ram guys with the long spears. I'm a pretty calm guy no kidding but that part of the game brought back some memories of playing 8 bit games like xmen and contra that made me want to throw my console into the street.
Pit Fall used to piss me the F off back on the snes. In the intro up top its the picture of that guy running through the mayan jungle (Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure) made my jaw clench. The kind of angry that happens right before the apocalypse and makes demons hug their security blankets. Ahhh good times.
First game to make me RAGE (like a lunatic) was Mario Kart on SNES.. I used to play as Yoshi and on 150cc the Star Cup was ridiculously hard and the AI was so cheap, especially Bowser knocking me all over the dam place. Got so mad one day cause I was finally about to win grand prize, I had a good 2 second lead on Bowser and was just about to cross the finish line when he makes the most impossible fluke-shot ever and throws a banana peel right on top of me.."HOW in the hell do you aim a peel that good?!?" yea so anyway, he snipes me with a banana, I spin-out inches away from the finish line, cars whizz past and I end up in 6th place or something..
..and my teeth marks are forever engraved deep within the plastic of the control pad I was playing with that day (hey, I was like nine years old lol)
Most of my rage came from playing Call of Duty games. Call of Duty 4: stuck at some refinery or factory where your supposed to drive out the enemy forces. I almost had that finished, until a part when you enter the facility - I am out of high powered weapons and there are tanks on either side as you go up. If I jump over the wall its death time - cannot proceed!
Call of Duty Black Ops: the protect the data mission, your stuck in a cabin and tons of enemies are trying to enter to destroy the computer before it finishes downloading. You are supposed to hold them off with these bombs (I forget what they are called) and shoot them as they try to get close. They keep getting past the bombs - its like they are already in the cabin! Again, I tried all kinds of strategies but I cannot hold them off! Game is permanently stuck there until I figure it out (been like that for about 2 years now).
Call of Duty Black Ops II - after disrupting the enemies burning documents, your supposed to make your way past the turrets and into a building on the right. Problem is - as soon as I approach the entrance someone inside one-shot kills me. I tried entering and pulling outside and he came outside and killed me. He kills me so fast I don't even know who this guy is! I tried like 50 times to get past this but no go.
Oh and I'll add Need for Speed Most Wanted Blacklist: As much as I love that game, I just could not get past Blacklist racer #3 (Ronnie). I tried so much that I hurt a nerve in my hand and couldn't play games for two months. The worst race was when Ronnie's car crashed, I zoomed past him thinking "I got your ass now!" and far , far away from him I was ahead by over 20 seconds. I hit the hard curve into the tunnel, which is about 80% mark in the race. By the time I got to the end of the tunnel Ronnie passed me! I could not believe it! This wasn't rubber band AI - that was atomic wedgie AI!
Experiences like that make you want to break something - so I learned to just slowly put down the controller (or release the death-grip on the mouse), and just slowly walk away...
My last rage moment was in Skyward Sword when i was trying to finish this "machine" off by stabbing it and link wasn't stabbing. I stabbed 3 times and died, then was revived by fairy, stabbed and link didn't stab again, and then finally managed to make a successful stab and win... How many times did i die because it was my fault: 0 - how many times did i die because of controls: 5
my latest rage moment: the final battle against shao kahn in the new mortal kombat. I finally beat the guy, but WTF? that was not a fun finale, I felt like I had to be cheap to win, and even then I barely scraped by. I think that I died at least 25 times in that one alone.
Spot on, man.
I too enjoy complicated, difficult, or even unbalanced games- I play Eve Online - so it's not those things that make me rage at games. Cheap fights, overwhelming odds, and out-of-character mini games spoil it for me.
The stupid racing 'missions' in Red Dead, Prototype 2, and GTA are all the worst parts of those games for me. To make it seem like 'seat of the pants' action they give you only enough time if you make the course perfectly. Meaning you often replay these boring bits over and over to learn the course, just to move the story forward. ME 3 loved throwing a half dozen Brutes charging at you while the dodge button mostly put you into cover where you died. That game also won't just ditch the boring planet scanning mechanic from ME 2.
Other games like UFC are TOO REAL in that you spend all your time doing boring training mini-games for the fairly rare actual fight. That's realistic, but perhaps too realistic to be compelling in a game.
Bad AI and getting stuck in maps always sucks but forgivable with today's huge maps and complex gameplay. It's the obviously poorly designed, or outright tossed in for no reason at all- things that get me tossing controllers and keyboards.
When my first xbox had the Red Ring of Death cancer, I did throw it into the street and run it over twice with the truck. So uh, yeah I've lost my cool at my 'entertainment' before too.
lol the same thing happened to me in uncharted 3 same level to it took me like an hour to beat tht one part
Oh, you rushef five or six enemies, and you died? You stayed with your back to the wolves and they bit you? You haven't attacked Shao even once and you lost?Disturbing. Outrageous! Make a movie out of this nonsense. Let the world know how life is unfair towards you!Or grow some balls, learn to play, and stop bi*****g. Jesus, it takes realy nothing to become Gamespot journalist.
Hmmm, my first true gaming rage, I think it was Starcraft back I was 7, I can't beat the game at all........ not a chance as trying to figure out which unit is which and instantly getting rape minutes after a few workers and lots of question, I cried when I lost.
My current gaming rage, surprisingly is the Starcraft II when played online, one time my words was so bad that the opponent leave the game, and I was given a warning for my insults. Now I take losses like winning cause it doesn't matter much to me anymore since I don't get to be a champion anywhere near Singapore.......
I think the big difference between games of old and games of new is the save feature. Old games don't have save feature in which you can continue your game where you left off. If you want to finish the game, you have to play it from start to finish without turning off your console. I remember way back when I'm on the last stage of the Super Mario Bros. game, my baby sister accidentally tapped the console and the tv screen went blank. I spend continuous hours just to beat that game. That's my 1st video game rage at age 7. I learned to control rage at an early age with Contra. Video games can make or break you. Patience is a virtue. It's up to you.
i avoid games that are know for their difficulty. it's like playing a dvd that's scratched. it keeps the story/gameplay from advancing and that is why i play games.
Playing Arkham City once again. Attempting to get all of my combat challenges within top 10,000 on the leaderboards (got a few). Getting pissed off at the TYGER guards that like to sucker punch you immediately after you've finished any non-strike move. It's not bad mechanics, just added difficulty. Even if you move it's like they aim-bot Falcon punch/kick you. Also, Catwoman is extremely annoying to play as cuz it's hard to tell when her attacks are finished.
I get pissed at the lag in dark souls online play, I will be far away and rolling then all of a sudden I am getting backstabbed?!
Those moments suck...
I get upset when it's the game basically being hard because of mechanics as opposed to ai. For example playing Skyim on Master where they nerf the player's damage and the npcs become op. That doesn't make the game more challenging, it makes it unbalanced and cheap. As opposed to enhancing the ai in higher difficulties to make the game actually more challenging, like playing a chess game on hard, which makes the ai more intelligent. Other than that I like being punished for my mistakes rather than just being able to duck for 2 seconds and regenerate my health like some games that will remain nameless, or genre rather.
Does anyone know what's the name of the game at 00:18? I love retro 2D sidescrollers, but i don't remember that one...
For me, this is just based on the type of player playing the game. Casual gamer would definitely find games like Demon's Soul, Dark Soul, etc extremely hard. Advanced and Hardcore players would find these games normal or just challenging. I don't blame the developers because they need to meet the expectation of their target audience, and for that, I think they did it just right, but not all game though, as there are games where the game/developer pushes the player to grind/farm/spend money to have a decent equipment first in order to complete a certain level like the recently known fact in Diablo 3.
A game's difficulty is not based on how many times you die/lose. Losing is most of the time a user error, we lose because we were too careless or does not have the correct strategy, so let's not blame it to the game. Repeating the game on a harder difficulty pushes the player to commit less mistakes and have a better strategy, and with this comes with patience.
Frustrating yourself because you can't beat a certain level/boss does not do you any good. If you lack patience in these types of game, then that game is not for you.
Games have their own target audience, so if the game does not work for you, then you are not part of it.
I don't mind difficult games. I just finished Dark Souls recently & loved it. Sure, I died a lot, but it was either from me making a mistake, or getting to cocky. Although I did have some problems with button-lag during the boss fight against Sif the Wolf, which caused me to die several times and I did end up going nuts ! I'm on my 5th Xbox 360 controller. 1 of them died of natural causes, although the 3 I smashed were due to lag issues with the first Gears Of War: Shooting someone point-blank with the shotgun 6 times and they don't drop, only for them to turn around, shoot me once and I get splattered. CHEAP. The first game I ever lost it to was Megaman 2 on the NES, but in all fairness, that game was over the top, super-duper-hard, like all the Megaman games. My list of controller casualties: 3 Xbox 360 pads (Gears Of War), 1 PS2 pad (Tiger Woods), 1 SNES pad (Street Fighter 2), 1 NES pad (Megaman 2). Oddly enough, I never broke a PS1, or original Xbox pad. Came close with the Tomb Raider games on PS1, but never launched a pad across the room. I haven't bust my PS3 pad yet either, although the part in the video of Uncharted 3 was a royal pain and I think I may have swore at the TV at least once ! It's nice admitting to all of this, we should start a support group. lol. Game Rage Anonymous.
I don't know, games that are too easy frustrate me WAY more than games that are too hard. And nowadays, the vast majority of games are too easy because developers tend to cater to the least common denominators among us. I don't mind having to die 6 or 7 times before I'm finally able to beat a boss. That's how it should be. Dark Souls? Demon's Souls? Ninja Gaiden Black? Bring em on! Those games have PERFECT difficulty...and we need more of them.
Those Blades of Hades in the first God of War probably gave me my first real rage session. Those things were so annoying, and the challenges unlocked after you beat the game helped me break my first controller. Not even Battletoads gave me such anger, though I was a kid when I played that one...
laugh if you must be I couldn't get past the first boss in Ninja Gaiden 1....tried a bazillion times and just got my arse kicked every time....took the game back to the video store and told them it didn't work....I never got to experience the game because of the insane difficulty....stupid on the part of the developers not to put a "kiddy" mode in there for people like me!!
If a game is not hard it's not a game, no challenge no game. Too many whiny bitches in the world today.
nah, I'm pretty cool. I never broke anything and the closest I ever got to a rage was some mumbling while playing Counter Strike with people who were cheating. You should know games are designed as fun and relaxing, and if you rage out while playing you should consider quitting alltogether. There's always a "load" button, and if that's not working out, try smoking a cig, drinking a beer, chatting on msn a bit, watch some youtube videos about other people playing it, check out gamefaqs.com. If all fails, uninstall, go do something else
@gpm23 that exact part made me not finish god of war III. So incredibly frustrating I'd beat the other 2 games on hard and the challenge of the gods things and I still couldn't beat this part.... I gave up after 4 or 5 hours I know shameful but that part was so F*CKING annoying i didn't even want to try. Also mariokart when you get blue shelled at the finish line and then come in 12th...
@NoirBadguy Wow, it takes really nothing to post on here also, apparently.
@WillyChong dude stop playing starcraft
@isshiah part of the Dark Souls storyline and the gameplay is dying.
@God-of-Gaming I agree completely! The only thing ltting down the PvP play in dark souls is that melee battles are essentially just back stab duels, and it is mostly luck based and not skill based!
@bigd0606 Pitfall. Fun game
@silentcelli think thats cybernator
@FITRS Anybody who knows what game at 3:44 ????
@shantd I like your enthusiasm but come on, please be serious here, when has anyone every chucked their remote at their $2000.00 tv because a game was to easy? Very doubtful, now if you said an overhyped game that you just paid $60.00 for and totally sucks in more ways then one, i'd believe you. but because its to easy...? na dont see it
@elblanquito_81 WHAT ABOUT HAVING TO PROTECT THAT BITCH ON TITAN DIFFICULTY?! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
oh...and the last platinum medal on PGR2 cost me a controller....had to buy that damn TVR speed 12 from the marketplace....ARRRRGHHHH
@elessarGObonzo i know, and i've haven't played it for that very reason. btw, it is not as if i am against that style of game, it's just not for me.
@Audi0fixxx Thank you very much!
@virusqgWho said anything about chucking a controller because a game was too easy? lol, that would be pretty funny though. I've never thrown a controller for any reason and frankly I don't understand the mind set that would compell one to do something so stupid. I'm pretty laid back though. My only point above was that games are much too easy these days, and for whatever reason, the games that piss other people off are the games I enjoy the most. To each his own I suppose.