How Beyond Earth Does It Differently - Civilization: Beyond Earth Preview

After playing through the first 100 turns of an intergalatic civilization, Kevin and Chris break down what makes this unique civ sim stand out against the previous installments.

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saturatedbutter
saturatedbutter

Which one of you has PewDiePie on their facebook page in the background here?

simon1812
simon1812

Im curious does one get to encounter advanced aliens civilizations?

fabs1
fabs1

Waited for something like this since Alpha Centauri. My first turn-based strategy game.

Zelda99
Zelda99

So Kevin and Chris, did they have to pry you guys from the computer after 100 turns? Cause it seems this game is as addictive as its predecessor. 

CatAtomic999
CatAtomic999

I hope the other civs' AIs are done better here than in the last Civ game. They were some erratic, inscrutable mofos.

hammerfall22
hammerfall22

The game seems very good. But... its very, very expensive!

[They don`t have afraid to show the gameplay (techtree, etc.). Points for them!]

Darkreaper_1
Darkreaper_1

I'm a big fan of Civ games and have been playing since Civ 1.  I was a bit disappointed with Civ 5 as it was far too watered down and simplified for my tastes but i still enjoyed it and sank many hours into it.


While the concept of Beyond Earth is interesting, the more i see the more it just looks like a re-skin of Civ 5.  The Tech tree also looks very, very similar to that of Endless Space.  I do think this would of been better off as an expansion to Civ 5 rather than a stand alone game.


If it comes out as cost the same as an expansion then i guess that'll be fair.  If it comes out and costs the same as a full stand alone game then i'll be disappointed.

EvulMonkai
EvulMonkai

Not a big fan of Civs, only a couple dozen hours into the last one, but this... this I'm really interested in.

evil_m3nace
evil_m3nace

I would really like a strategy game that focuses on just making a planet habitable for humans. building a eco-system, making an atmosphere, trying to figure out animals that can survive there, sort of like the jurassic park games except in space and no need to worry about tourists.

rsj2
rsj2

One of only two games I've ever pre-ordered (the other being Dark Souls II).  Can't wait.

pezzott1
pezzott1

My only hope for this game is that it wont crash when you click on next turn.

ExtremePhobia
ExtremePhobia

That looks mighty appealing, but I see a problem looming where the only option is to go military. In a match with other players, you can roll military and start attacking the aliens to kill off your opponent civs. Which would then force everyone to HAVE to go military.

renskyfire
renskyfire

@simon1812 One of the victory conditions in the game is making first contact with an advanced alien race. So I'm guessing initially probably not, since when they show up, you've won.

simon1812
simon1812

@fabs1 yeah, I played Galactic Civilizations, so when I heard of this I kinda of wondered how much do the two games have in common if anything.


this kinda look like exploring other planets rather than exploring the galaxy, still interested though.

Chris_Watters
Chris_Watters moderator staff

@Zelda99 Oh man, I felt so bad. The people running the event started to talk to us about wrapping up, shutting down, etc, and I just kept clicking. I'm not sure I even heard them. 

bbq_R0ADK1LL
bbq_R0ADK1LL

@Zelda99 First time I played Civ V, I sat down for 10 hours straight. I literally didn't leave my chair until 9:30 am. I went to work an evening shift the next day & came home & did exactly the same thing again.

I'm not sure I want this Civ to be so addictive!

Chris_Watters
Chris_Watters moderator staff

@CatAtomic999 There's more info on that in the Civ: BE panel from PAX, which we'll hopefully be posting tomorrow!

TheGreatPhoenix
TheGreatPhoenix

@CatAtomic999 unlike civ3-4 where they did nothing new, just polish, it was easy to make good AI. I'm pretty confident that their will be issues with it, simply because they've developed new systems.

maitkarro
maitkarro

@hammerfall22 Advice, learn to use paypal or skrill and you can get the for 30 even before it's out (the game you will still get at the descinated date of course).

TheGreatPhoenix
TheGreatPhoenix

@Darkreaper_1  "watered down and simplified for my tastes" considering the watering down was getting rid of redundant systems that were added in civ 2 to give the idea of complexity without actually having it. I'm guessing you will be disappointed again, as they are actually adding in mechanics, not simply pretend the do, like with civ 2,3 and 4.

Lambchopzin
Lambchopzin

@ExtremePhobia I sort of doubt you have to go full on autocrat to defend yourself from aliens, and keep in mind that purposefully making the aliens aggressive is risky for the one doing it too.

Also, depending on how the harmony tech works, just going harmony might be a valid counter-tactic to people trying to rile up aliens that doesn't rely purely on military might.

TheGreatPhoenix
TheGreatPhoenix

@ExtremePhobia  well in multiplayer you have to option to just kill of the aggressor. The AI "human" factions will do this. Players who want to co-exist should be gunning down any human carrying a gun. its only sensible.

Freedomination
Freedomination

@ExtremePhobia Hard to say. I know if you played the wildlife friendly role in Alpha Centauri you could get away with never producing a unit in the entire game. You just needed to get the ball rolling on capturing aliens that captured aliens and got them to do all the fighting for you.


It might have been a bit unbalanced as your alien army started growing almost exponentially without you ever using resources on it, but i can see the Harmony techs having the aliens help you out. And the Purity techs might make stuff like your city defences stronger.


All speculation of course, but i can't see them letting a game where your only option is rushing out military units go through testing.

Zelda99
Zelda99

So just from "demo" is this a buy for you?

Chris_Watters
Chris_Watters moderator staff

@Zelda99 Yeah, I'll definitely want to get into it. Really excited by the novelty of charting a civ into the future, and exploring all the systems that mix things up. 

maitkarro
maitkarro

@hammerfall22 @maitkarro Also be mindful if it's multiregional/english, or it's russian or asian, the russian versions may be cheap but you won't get any other langugage with it, actually with asian you will still get english just with japanese and chinese options, you mostly recognize the region limited when it's asked you need vpn activation and etc. Nvm if you're russian or any other slavs.

maitkarro
maitkarro

@hammerfall22 @maitkarro Keyshops, in allkeyshop you can see all the available keyshops who are selling it and at what price, sometimes they want a verification of some sort. I mostly stick to GMG, OnlineKeyShop,(expensive ones as they got recognized) and Fast2Play.
 

Don't buy Steam gifts, as the owner of a gift isn't legally allowed to sell it actually. You could get banned from steam.

Serial keys are fine, no matter what others say, the shops got their keys legitimately, blame steam or whatever selling it 'em cheap to keyshops, nobody's losing money here, nobody's whining when steam holiday or season sales are going on.

Zelda99
Zelda99

Does the game have a Cilvilopedia of sorts, where you can learn about the world you're on and its inhabitance or something?

Chris_Watters
Chris_Watters moderator staff

@Zelda99 Of course a Civ game has a civilopedia! Yeah, tons of stuff about alien units and terrain types and resources and all that.