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etuzz
etuzz

Looking forward to this games evolution, being 80 makes everything easy, so if you need help check out a blog post http://bit.ly/UWhZGU

tgwolf
tgwolf

When do these updates let the game transcend nauseating repetitiveness and awkward failure to adapt Bli****d games for diabolical addictiveness? I guess never. I'm seeing my decision to leave Guild Wars at the first game to be increasingly sound.

IndySandbagTrik
IndySandbagTrik

Loving your work ArenaNet, this and EVE Online have my MMO bases covered :)

vishisluv7
vishisluv7

A holiday event is not a content update.

Good job on the holiday event though. I like that one of the best MMOs on the market is B2P.

Chonsie
Chonsie

I think people want a game that makes you wait for weeks on end to get anything by capping your achivements. I guess people like waiting for the weekly reset to get off on (not me). I personally love GW2 and the stuff they have added is really fun.

 

Good job ArenaNet keep it comming.

JASAEric
JASAEric

Why do they call this a content update?  The "content" that they added will be removed as soon as the event is over.

 

I'm pretty sure A.net knows the difference between a content update and a holiday event, seeings as they never called holidays in GW1 "content updates"

sammoth
sammoth

 @vishisluv7

 Ugh content is content it's not weather it's Hoilday or not. Wgere do you people come up with the defintion of the word content ?

vihazur
vihazur

 @sammoth  @vishisluv7 Well, the issue for me is that most of it is temporary.  Very temporary.  Content update tends to imply something more lasting.

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @Jestersmiles Didn't think someone would take it so personally, did your dad work on this "content update" or something?

 

according to the guild wars site there are 4 things that are being added:

 

Halloween event-temporary, so doesn't count

 

Black lion store getting Halloween themed items-again, just temporary items.

 

PvP paid tournaments-no new content here, just a different way to use existing content

 

"Tyria Evolving"-some new jumping puzzles, achievements to go with them.

 

 

So you're right, the MAJOR CONTENT UPDATE(!!!!) gave us some new jumping puzzles.

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @sammoth  @FlameNate20 Nearly went a whole hour!  Good try Sammoth, that's another point for me for your failure to even stay away.  Unfortunately, that means you were wrong again.  

 

I did prove it sammoth, read the posts, I prove it every time you comment without a link to counter my argument.  I'll go ahead and take another point for your deflection/threat.

 

Still waiting for that link, or for you to be "done with this" (maybe you can go for record time and be "done with this" for 3 hours!)

 

Sammoth+Pelvist 0, Eric 10.

 

Where is that proof to back up what you've been saying?

 

 

 

 

FlameNate20
FlameNate20

 @sammoth   @pelvist Really? Grade school insults and no backing to your argument.  Unless you consider "because I said so" a valid argument.  There is a clear difference between content, which is permanent, and a holiday event, which is temporary, as seen above.

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @sammoth  @pelvist  @FlameNate20Harsh.  For clarification, are you saying that you + Pelvist = me?  So you're both half of me?  Is that supposed to be an insult?  Is this your way of admitting I'm right?

 

How many times are you going to be "done with me"?  Is this the last time, or is like all the other times?

 

You didn't post proof, so another point to me, along with your self insult, so the score is now:

 

Pelvist+Sammoth: 0, Eric: 8

 

I was generous and didn't take a point for another deflection, mainly because I'm hoping you can come up with an actual case for what you've been saying.  But then again, maybe this time you really are going to ignore me, didn't work last time, but hey, you never know.

sammoth
sammoth

 @JASAEric  @pelvist  @FlameNate20

Whatever, I am done with you. You’re nothing but, a sad case for a human being. Go crawl back under your troll bridge you pathetic LOSER. We obviously don’t see eye to eye. Nor does that make you right

 

Sammoth + Pelvist = Eric (The Loser) to argue with himself.

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @sammoth  @pelvist  @FlameNate20 Nothing you posted said "content update", so you basically posted random links that had nothing to do with what you were saying.  It is amazing how you still can't separate the words content and content update.  Clearly you think a blackberry phone is made of black berries, BECAUSE BLACK, BERRIES RIGHT?  Your brain lacks the ability to separate false logic from logic, otherwise you would know that a blackberry doesn't need to be made of black berries.

 

"updates consist of content" yes, once again, your pitiful brain gets stuck on content, "I NO WORD CONTENT CONTENT IS CONTENT I SMART"  Do you realize that content can describe literally everything in the world?  Unfortunately content update when applied to games means free, permanent, playable content, so THAT is the definition you need to use.

 

If you read the whole lotro link, you would see that they were making an announcement about the spring festival.  The content update included the "instance clusters" and "skirmishes", and they mentioned that the spring festival would be happening, the mere fact that they separated it from the permanent content should have clued you in.

 

When are you going to post actual evidence?  I was able to come up with 5 links in about 20 seconds, after 4 days of searching, you still have NOTHING.  It's embarrassing.

 

Samoth + Pelvist: 0, Eric: 6

sammoth
sammoth

 @JASAEric  @pelvist  @FlameNate20

 

LOTRO link includes

"Celebrate the Spring Festival! – The Spring Festival returns to Middle-earth from March 22nd through April 12th.  The world will come together in celebration as the free people of Middle-earth enjoy the season with special decorations, festive costumes and special quests including the return of the Hedge Maze!"

 

Care to post more  ?

 

I never said updates are not content you dumbazz. Point was content is content. It can be anything from a simple skin, to a holiday event or anything else the developer chooses to put in there games.

 

 

 

sammoth
sammoth

 @JASAEric  @pelvist  @FlameNate20

I also posted proof to you as well. Some games name it content all the same. Updates consist of content dumbazz. BTW Those links are not proof that just shows how much of an idiot you truly are. All that shows is they have updates. That does not prove that they don’t call it content. The only one crying is you because you won’t let it go.

Have a Nice Day Dip$h!T.

 

sammoth
sammoth

 @JASAEric  @pelvist  @FlameNate20

Pathetic. You are still trying. Move on life will be better for you. Just Disagree and move on. It will be ok Mom and Dad won't lock you in the closet anymore. I Promise =).

pelvist
pelvist

 @sammoth  @FlameNate20  @JASAEric The other guy is probably the same person, or a friend posting on his behalf to help him win in an argument hes created for himself by being wrong.

Anyone who can honestly defend this idiots argument that an update with content in it is not a content update is too far fetched.

 

Ignoring him is the best option since trying to get anything through his thick skull is like trying to educate pork. Let him vent his anger at life and get the attention he lacked from his parents from someone else, personally im done reading this tools pointless drivel.

sammoth
sammoth

@JASAEric

We will have to agree to disagree others also feel your wrong and others may feel I am wrong.

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @sammoth I never changed my mind about what content was, in the gaming world it is UNDERSTOOD to be playable things, but can TECHNICALLY mean nearly anything.

 

Just like a content update is UNDERSTOOD to mean free, permanent, content, but can TECHNICALLY mean nearly anything.

 

When you understand this, you'll stop embarrassing yourself

sammoth
sammoth

@JASAEric@FlameNate20@pelvist

Look loser believe what you believe it is. It's called content on the Guildwars 2 and other sites  and that’s the bottom line to all of it. Stick that in your pathetic little world of yours.

Maybe you and Flamenet should get a room you’re too cozy with him.

 

 

sammoth
sammoth

 @FlameNate20

 You let it go your just as bad as JasaEric.

 

Nice Troll IGNORE

sammoth
sammoth

No you’re sticking your 2 cents in when you’re wrong. The bottom line is there is no defined word on the word content for gaming. It is some made up crap. Content consists of something added to a game whether is would be temporary or not. He claimed content consists of something to do. Well it's something to do. JasaEric can’t seem to make up his mind what content is. He says it is in one hand then it's not in the other. It's not my fault he is schizophrenic. Maybe if you took the time to read the whole thread rather than a few lines you would know what’s going on.

 

FlameNate20
FlameNate20

 @JASAEric  @sammoth  @pelvist Sammoth, you are so completely removed from reality.  JASAEric is obviously got this nailed on the head.  It makes perfect sense... why are you so disagreeable? 

sammoth
sammoth

@JASAEric@pelvist

Do you have a brain? You do realize what you’re arguing about? It's content no matter what you say. You haven't provided any links that stat otherwise.

 

 

sammoth
sammoth

@JASAEric@pelvist

Ah the Great moron is at it again. The only flawed logic is yours. Prove to us where it says that in the gamming world. Otherwise STFU

 

Quote:

"You obviously do lack the brain capacity to understand the difference, patches, expansions, hotfixes, holiday events, ALL HAVE CONTENT, and they are all updates, yet they are not considered a content update. I would explain the flawed logic that you use, but I already did that."

 

You are a complete idiot and the minority.

 

BTW dipS#!@T hotfixes and patches are implemented to fix content. Not content themselves. It's nothing new added. When you add something new, temporary or not it's considered content.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QK2Re81_EI

 

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @sammoth  @pelvist Sammoth, Fight through the tears, click the links I gave a while back that shows content updates in WoW and ToR, where the content is free, permanent, and very clearly not an event.  so when you say "You haven?t backed up anything you said." you are wrong.  Par for the course for you.  I have provided precedence, you haven't.

 

Does your keyboard not have an apostrophe?

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @pelvist Really, you think the mistake is I meant to write "you" instead of "to"?  The mistake was "the", you can't even correct me without making a mistake.

 

You obviously do lack the brain capacity to understand the difference, patches, expansions, hotfixes, holiday events, ALL have content, and they are all updates, yet they are not considered a content update.  I would explain the flawed logic that you use, but I already did that.

 

This post has content, and it is being updated to the gamespot sever, therefore it's a content update, right?

 

The place you work had monopoly stickers added to their fries, therefore their content is being updated, content update?

 

I take a picture with my phone, therefore content is being updated into my SD card, CONTENT UPDATE?

 

Scroll up, remember when I said in the gaming world a "content update" means free permanent content?  So according to the definition, you are wrong.  Think of it this way, you know what a "blackberry" is.  You know what "black" is, you know what a "berry" is, yet a "blackberry" isn't a black berry.  Same applies here, again, if you don't believe me, just find ONE instance of a holiday event being called a content update.

 

The mere fact that you couldn't find a single game that called a holiday event a content update after hours of searching proves you wrong, yet instead you sit here and spout out the same flawed logic I have refuted again and again, with facts AND common sense.  Either come up with a new argument, post some precedence of events being called content updates, or admit that you have nothing.

 

Not all content is a content update, stay in school.

sammoth
sammoth

@JASAEric@pelvist

You are a complete moron. You are still trying to justify your initial response to this thread. Look Content is content has nothing to do whether it's an update, major, small, temporary, holiday or any other things added to a game. Kind of like your comments have content yet no substance to them. Quit being a little B1#$H and grow up already.

You haven’t backed up anything you said. He or anyone does not have to prove to you otherwise.

 

 

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @pelvist It's deflecting to ask for proof?  So when I provided proof that you were wrong, that was a deflection?

 

I am beginning to wonder if you even have to brain capacity to comprehend what I am saying.

 

Content is content, congratulations.  The capital of Utah is Salt Lake City, since we are both citing facts that have nothing to do with the argument.  Once again, this isn't about the definition of content, it's about the definition of content update.

 

Your logic states that since content update has content, ALL content is content updates.  This is an example of flawed logic.  Here's another example of your logic:

 

All whole-numbered multiples of 6 are even numbers, therefore all even numbers are multiples of 6.  Do you understand that that isn't correct?  Do you understand that even though content updates contain content, not all content is content updates?

 

Patches, hotfixes, events, content updates, bowel movements, expansions, etc. all have content, yet they all describe different things.  You say they are all the same (they all have content!), and this is why you are wrong.

 

So, let me deflect again, by asking you to back up what you are saying with facts that support what you are saying, instead of random facts that have nothing to do with it.

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @sammoth  @melkathi  @teh_pwnager  @02pheland  @illmatic87  @Jestersmiles Thank you for once again proving my point.  None of those said "content update", they all called it an event.

 

" the world's most popular free-to-play MMORPG, today unveiled this year's Easter holiday event, Holly and Hawthorn."

 

"DC Universe Online’s Creative Director, Jens Andersen, announced yesterday that they’re undertaking a large overhaul of DCUO’s holiday content."

 

Did you even read the articles?  None of them calls holiday events content updates.  Like I have said already, a CONTENT UPDATE means something different.  I told you to find a game that calls a holiday event a content update, instead you googled "holiday content" and posted this as "proof" (sadly you only proved my point, since none of them call it a content update)

 

As for you playing the victim in your last post, maybe you should learn to read.

 

"Why do they call this a content update?  The "content" that they added will be removed as soon as the event is over.

 

I'm pretty sure A.net knows the difference between a content update and a holiday event, seeings as they never called holidays in GW1 "content updates" "

 

That was my original post, yet you fanboys got so worked up over that that you had to fight through your tears to defend your games honor.  In fact, this whole page is full of people who simply voice a non 100% positive comment, while the fanboys rage at them.  It's kind of pathetic really.

 

So, Sammoth, since you clearly don't comprehend anything let me give you an example.  From Call of Duty, which I assume you are a big fan of considering your unnecessary rage over everything

 

pres·tige  (pr-stzh, -stj)n.1. The level of respect at which one is regarded by others; standing.2. A person's high standing among others; honor or esteem.3. Widely recognized prominence, distinction, or importance:

 

According to that, prestige does not mean "reset level and start earning unlocks from the beginning", how odd.  Likewise "content" and "content update" mean completely different things.

 

Again the challenge stands, find one game that uses CONTENT UPDATE to mean a temporary holiday event.

 

 

 

sammoth
sammoth

 @melkathi  @JASAEric  @teh_pwnager  @02pheland  @illmatic87  @Jestersmiles

 

Why don’t you follow the whole thread before making anymore comments? JASAEric started insulting others and calling them fan boys off the start because he thinks this isn't content when it clearly is. No it's not an Expansion but, he has yet to prove what content means that’s why I linked the meaning. Now if you follow carefully Weather is spelled right not wrong, It's called a grammar mistake using the wrong word in place of. So thanks for the input but, since you have no idea what a spelling error is or grammar error is you’re just as bad as JasaEric is. So crawl back under the sheets with your buddy there and go away.

sammoth
sammoth

 @JASAEric  @pelvist

You are so full of yourself you can't even admit when your wrong. Here let me post a few links for your pathetic ass. So you crawl back under your rock TROLL.

http://ggftw.com/mmorpg-news/easter-holiday-content-runescape

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/01/27/what-do-you-want-from-your-mmos-holiday-events/

http://www.tentonhammer.com/editorials/ho-ho-mmo/story

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/16/lord-of-the-rings-online-discusses-this-years-yule-festival/

That’s just to name a few that call it content. Guess what they are the Developers calling it CONTENT moron. They know more about the game then you. The point is it's not an Expansion and you have not provided any proof that they use that as a term in gaming industry. Until you do you are FOS. So keep up with the insults little boy your just proving you have nothing valid worth arguing about.

My dictionary link was valid because you don’t understand the term content and what it means.

Fly away little bird.

 

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @teh_pwnager  @02pheland  @illmatic87  @Jestersmiles The only thing pathetic here is that you fanboys, (yes, fanboys, only fanboys would call this content) keep defending this.

 

Look at your list, achievements, minipets, jumping puzzles, skins, diving, nobody cares and those can hardly be called content

 

Let me help you out here, when you add "content" to a game, it is typically things you can DO, so of that list the only things that qualify are jumping puzzles, the TEMPORARY event, 2 slightly stronger enemies, and the dungeons

 

As for GW1, you must have considered every holiday event a major content update, since there was a minipet, and a mask, I, on the other hand, consider things like the last update to gw1, where they added entire quest lines ALONG WITH the skins, minis and other things that you consider "MAJOR CONTENT"

 

 

TL;DR: minipets and achievements are not content.

 

 

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @02pheland  @illmatic87  @Jestersmiles 2 world bosses is basically 2 new npcs, incredible.

 

Achievements, who cares

 

Diving goggles, again, who cares

 

The 2 new non instanced dungeons I didn't know about, but calling two caves a MAJOR content update is obviously wrong.  They should have released a real content update in November when they are adding a real dungeon.

 

It seems to me I made a spot on comment and you and the other fanboys are desperately trying to validate this "content update"

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @Phoenix-Ho-Yoku What a stupid thing to say, it even if most the players never left, it's a still better for them to bring players back then to just say "oh well, they are gone, poor us".

 

Kindly go play your brand new jumping puzzles and stfu.

02pheland
02pheland

 @JASAEric  @illmatic87  @Jestersmiles Two new non-instanced dungeons ; permanent addition At least 2 new world bosses, not just champion level but the purple ring ones ; also permanent All the new achievements in exploration mode encouraging and lettings people know about new and old caves and other small areas most people miss (exploration tab) ; permanent Diving goggle locations added all around the world for something else for people who like collection stuff ; permanentAnd finally although this one isnt out just yet they have stated that in November they will be releasing a new full instance dungeon. So you made a stupid uninformed comment and are now seem to be desperately trying to validate yourself , have fun

JASAEric
JASAEric

 @illmatic87  @Jestersmiles So after the Halloween update ends and they remove that stuff, is there going to be an article about how GW2 is removing content?

 

No, because everyone knows the difference between a temporary event and permanent content.  Most MMOs do things for holidays (even if it is just decorations) yet they don't call it a major content update.

 

The point is A.net is trying to bring players back by telling them they added all this new content, but in reality it is just a few jump puzzles, there is also nothing "substantial" about some random book hunting, a jump puzzle, and a couple other small areas, especially since that's temporary.

illmatic87
illmatic87

 @JASAEric  @Jestersmiles 

Well, you did just disprove your initial post above.

 

Even if the Halloween event is just temporary, it's a pretty substantial update thats completely shuffling what people are participating in.