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UNCStriker88
UNCStriker88

@Ceaseless001It's gutless individuals like you that hide behind anonymous internet sites and talk a big talk that don't actually do anything, it is people like you that is the problem because you sit in a corner saying something is wrong and you do nothing to make a difference, grow up and do something with your life

Lawrencevanrijn
Lawrencevanrijn

Trusting M$ seems like having unprotected 'action' with a crack....lady of light morals. (never appealing and only good for the really desperate lemming of life)

Necrotron
Necrotron

Haven't had any issues with GTA Online on PS3 since the patch.  Before the patch, I could not log in, or if I could, it wouldn't save any progress.  Also lost all of my characters made before the patch, but it's been smooth sailing since.

PlatinumPaladin
PlatinumPaladin

I don't quite understand why Sony would be bothered about whether or not their controller works on PC. I can't imagine they'd get much more in the way of sales through this added versatility.

Microsoft can feel free to peer into my home. I hope they've got a strong constitution though as they'll be witness to the stuff of nightmares. Muwhahahaha!

I honestly can't believe how badly MS are screwing this up. I was finding it pretty funny, but now it's just embarrassing.

AlwaysRunning
AlwaysRunning

"No data is shared unless you want it to be! Trust us!"

"It requires your explicit consent before we share any data at all! Trust us!"

Xbox Live EULA: "In order to use Xbox Live, you must agree to share usage data with third-parties. Suck it." 

BLaverock
BLaverock

Seriously though, our information is everywhere. Microsoft shares it, Google shares it, Facebook shares it... and even if you've managed to stay under the radar, the NSA is spying on you :s 

charlieboomboom
charlieboomboom

just how much can a mayor company f#ck up??cant wait till next xbone news....its like 1 step forward 2 steps back

razama
razama

I'm sorta over this whole, "Xbox One's kinect is invading my privacy!" thing. I mean, they're not actually going to be looking at footage of you sitting in your room picking your nose while you stare blankly at a tv screen. They want information that can be gathered into hard numbers and data. 


I don't plan on getting an Xbox One, but even if I did the data gathering wouldn't deter me in anyway. It isn't doing anything Facebook or twitter don't already do - monitor what you say and look at so they can better aim their marketing tactics at you. And if that means you get more ads that feature things you like and less ads about lysol and air fresheners, then is it such a bad thing?


I get why people are against it on principle, but in practical terms nobody should actually mind.

Tak666
Tak666

Sure, it won't share Your data unless You will say so, but let say - in order to play online you will probably HAVE to accept some clause that will make you share that data. If You wont accept the clause than You won't be able to use online, or download dlc.


It will probably go down to this.

DarkLord
DarkLord

So Microsoft says it won't share any of our data unless we allow it to be. That translates as "it'll be setup by default to share your data and we're gonna make it as hard as possible to change that in the settings." Stop whoring us Microsoft!!

Gamesfetch
Gamesfetch

Add subtitles to your videos Jess

Rooten
Rooten

MS loves to spy on people. They are spying on us since windows was launched....and now, same thing with Xbox yeah!! :\ ...garbage!!


CPTCUDDLES
CPTCUDDLES

you know  life isnt going good when the hottest woman in your life is in a video game website...

bigruss51
bigruss51

No I won't be ashamed of not wearing any pants because Microsoft's xbone won't be allowed in my home. If they wanna make money by using data they collect from me then they should be paying me, not the other way around. Free xbone and free online would be a good start. But I still won't put on any pants.

93ChevyNut
93ChevyNut

Jess is taking a real gamble here by implying she doesn't wear pants when she plays games.  There are some members of the GS community that go completely insane when they see her face or hear her speak.  I can only imagine what would happen to them if they imagine her sans clothing.  Nerds passin' out everywhere.

PacoTaco
PacoTaco

How did she know I watch GS news while on the can?  I am scared.

ex_xboxgamer
ex_xboxgamer

Xboners defending the XBONE = "I don't care about my privacy"  "Cell phones collect your data already"  "mircosoft will never give my data private from the NSA"    SMH so blinded by just a few games, your a slave to the mircosoft corporation.. your a consumer as a consumer go with with the one with the better DEAL! then M$ might drop that crap kinect, M$ doesn't listen to you! they listen with your money.  buy some common sense,  PS4 this time around it's so clear you have to be blind,stupid and dumb not to.  

JarodRF
JarodRF

I refuse to wear pants while playing video games in my own home...This is bullsh** I think I'll pass on this "next-gen"...

macaque12
macaque12

So MS will do the same thing facebook and google are already doing, send your data "friendly" to companies, so they pay a lot of money to MS and bother you as hell wile playing. Prepare to be playing Halo with a 50% off viagra pills will popping up. baaaaad move

kljvoph
kljvoph

Good god Gamespot loves to stir the 'let's bash Microsoft' machine. If you opt out no information will be shared and yet the headline reads: 'Xbox sharing data with advertisers'. It's almost as if they were being payed by Sony.

IanNottinghamX
IanNottinghamX

I dont see how this can be any clearer to the morons out there. Microsoft plans to violate your ass with Xbox one. If its not with the privacy rights killing kinect, its with the hidden fees and potential of finding new ways to charge you money.

Necrotron
Necrotron

@PlatinumPaladin I'd buy one.  I've always preferred the PS controller, but the built-in support for PC makes me use an Xbox one.

AlwaysRunning
AlwaysRunning

@razama The difference between this and Facebook is massive. Facebook is privy to what you choose to give them. I have an account for business purposes, and nothing else. An Internet-connected camera mounted in your living room, monitoring absolutely everything you do (hyperbole) is quite another thing. And just think of the massive potential for hacking and abuse; I would not be comfortable with one of these things anywhere near me.

When you try to sell people something which is nearly ripped straight out of the pages of "1984," honestly, who thought this was a good idea?

BLaverock
BLaverock

@Tak666 You're probably right. I mean, who actually reads the TERMS and AGREEMENT haha

mvfjet
mvfjet

I love her accent, there is just a few words she says really cool

BLaverock
BLaverock

@CPTCUDDLES I would say quite the opposite -- a hot chick on a video game website, hoorah!

_Roo_
_Roo_

@CPTCUDDLES I recommend getting yourself a dog and trying this thing called 'outside.'  

robitussin217
robitussin217

@bigruss51 Absolutely! They should be paying the consumer for their data!!! Sadly, I don't think we the common people will ever wretch control of this economy that is snowballing toward the favor of special corporate interests. My dream is to one day see a consumer license agreement where we can charge companies for wasting our time if they place bullshit fees in our bills just to see who will pay them, and that says our habits are our property, and you have to pay us if you want to know what they are.

Syphen_bast
Syphen_bast

@bigruss51 quote: "If they wanna make money by using data they collect from me then they should be paying me"

Exactly!

SolidSnakeGS
SolidSnakeGS

@JarodRF but remeber nsa is still watching somehow.... better put them pants on again

DemiGenius24
DemiGenius24

@kljvoph uh....gamespot has been notoriously on the side of M$, IGN however has been on the Sony bandwagon. So I guess, what you can take out of this is that, even Gamespot can't even make M$ look good with all of their bullshit policies.

ex_xboxgamer
ex_xboxgamer

@IanNottinghamX Back in march I was so hype about the reveal.... now you can see what kind of console is this... build around ADs,your privacy,making more money off you...  it's a gaming console over priced and double dipping off us.  

Andrendenum1
Andrendenum1

@AlwaysRunning @razama I kind of have to agree with the above poster...How many people in the world will potentially buy this system? Million maybe?  You think Microsoft has the resources to dvr everyone who buys a system while they sit in front of their tv?   It's both completely unrealistic and from a business standpoint they make no gain (they only lose).   Now, that said -- your choices (in games, in streaming media, in web purchases, xbox game choices, etc...) then yes, they are interested in working with those companies to make profit.  Social Media is huge and if they can tailor a system to do that (like xbox live does now) but in a more refined, user-unique way, then great.  Fine-tune it a lot more than xbox live does now.

You don't really have to worry that much.  

Busta
Busta

@BLaverock @Tak666  It's not about reading them sometimes. You ALREADY payed for the  thing.  And even then what you've read is subject to change.  Read the whole thing every update?   THAT is an unrealistic proposal and shouldn't hold any weight in court.

Our politicians don't even read EVERY 60 page bill that comes across their desk.  That's been openly admitted that even they don't "read eulas"  

Simba13
Simba13

@SoulSnare @nameaprice No they still have time to hammer in a few more before release!

The really interesting statistic for me will be if enough people buy the Xbone to match MS's expected sales. Given all the mistakes, extra expense and giving most people more of what they DON'T want in order to just play next gen games, I somehow doubt it, despite all the crazy "more money than sense" fan boys out there!


gf61
gf61

Now, now you pay for the privilege of multiplying their money. 

M$: We paid a 3rd of a billion to give you clouds not collect data.

razama
razama

@DemiGenius24 What!? how can you even say this when not even a month ago they were doing a report just about every day on how Microsoft said something dumb/inflammatory yet again?

Besides, Jess has no favorites - she is obviously a PC gamer and hates both consoles equally. 

Andrendenum1
Andrendenum1

@Ceaseless001 @Andrendenum1 @AlwaysRunning @razama

Okay, so that link provides a picture.. of a building.   I didn't know about the PRISM program so I first started at Wikipedia.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)   I read the whole article and to me it reads as they are not only, doing this currently, but doing it through mostly (internet tracking) and mobile phone usage.   If this is the case, then they're doing it right now on everyone anyway.  

My intention was not to make this about political facilities to track us.  That's important for sure.  My comment was that I don't think Microsoft is going to that measure of information and if they're in the business of "customers' heart rates" then I don't think there's much they could use with generalized data other than to see things, well, "generalized".  

In the end, if they were to be so brazen to do that it will be found very soon and the backlash from people would be insane.

I'm not the pessimist I guess.  We'll see I guess.   I want to be clear:  "I don't discount what you're saying.  In some cases I see that this type of surveillance goes on" but in the context of a gaming system, I don't think it's going to turn out with the FBI at your door if you're -say- smoking pot in your man cave.   Just my opinion, I guess.

Andrendenum1
Andrendenum1

@Busta @Andrendenum1 @AlwaysRunning @razama And a record of your current heart rate (or spikes in your heart rate) through anything other than an exercise game (say, "Ubisoft: Your Shape Fitness Evolved 2014" or some other, would make it useful to Microsoft in any form other than random population data or some kind of medical statistics?  I don't see how this is really important to gamers - even if they do it / if they do it beyond the game you're in.  

Use the Kinect to tell me if I have a tumor, or the start of cancer, or even if I have high cholesterol or whatever....

Now that would be something I'd buy..

Busta
Busta

@Andrendenum1 @AlwaysRunning @razama  If it can record spikes in your heart rate towards certain things. That doesn't need a DVR video.  Just a note in a change in the previous few minutes pertaining to something.  

It's not about optically recording you.  -_-.  That doesn't make it any less ok.

BLaverock
BLaverock

@razama @DemiGenius24 That's because about a month ago MS was on a dumb/inflammatory streak! Gamespot's been around for a lot longer than a month, and has been partisan to MS a lot of the time.