GS News - Xbox One Price Drop: $399, No Kinect, Netflix Paywall Gone

HUGE Microsoft news including a cheaper, Kinect-less Xbox One bundle, Xbox One Games With Gold launching, and some Xbox Live Gold restrictions removed!

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WraistlinGill
WraistlinGill

Gamers: Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed gaming, prepare to die.


Microsoft: Please, I'll give you anything.


Gamers: Offer me money and power.


Microsoft: Of course, more than you can imagine.


Gamers:  Offer me multimedia without premium charges, too.


Microsoft:  Netflix, Hulu, anything you want!



(Sword runs through the heart of greed.)



Gamers:  I want carefree gaming back you son of a bitch!

XCyberForceX
XCyberForceX

Separating the kinect is a good idea to try to keep pace with current gamer phobias.  The more options you have the better the opportunity to capture those users just interested in the console.  Who knows, maybe they'll buy the kinect later.  I have both console and kinect and think they're great together.  Microsoft will have to continue to make changes in order to catchup and in my opinion the catch up game sucks.  You would want to be in the forefront but they are heading in the right direction.

mi_hung_lo
mi_hung_lo

Phil Spencer is changing the face of the company. Thumbs up

Maj_Wood
Maj_Wood

Ya know some of the smartest people are some of the dumbest anyone outside of Microsoft easily saw that pairing Xbox 1 w/ that camera was a bad idea it took them over a year, they're getting slow!

wookiegr
wookiegr

short for Wookie Groomer, couldn't fit my entire name with the space in the sign up page.

scarred_fox
scarred_fox

I like the part where House of Cards is used as a demo ^^

Bobdog52
Bobdog52

Wonder what will happen to all the XB1 shipped with kinect ?
Just going to sit on shelves and collect dust once those kinectless XB1 show up.

UNCStriker88
UNCStriker88

the $450 Xbox One bundle that included a year of Xbox Live and a game more than covered the gap, people need to get past the "anti-kinect" crap, it is a big feature that makes the next gen consoles stand out and it is quite useful for many things

lordth01
lordth01

wow that's cool to hear that Microsoft want to sell more Xbox one unit by removing the kinect, but, from my point of view there is still a big problem with both PS4 and Xbox one, lack of games.

bored_gamer
bored_gamer

I think that's pretty cool that the Xbox One is being sold without the Kinect...kinda makes me wish I waited but I was stupid and bought the Xbox One with the Kinect. oh well... I'm also pretty cool about Xbox allowing Silver and Gold subscribers to use the streaming services though for me it didn't matter at all cause I used my PS3 or PS4 for Netflix. well, it's cool that Microsoft is listening 

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

Xbox One using the same PS+ service is stupid. I actually preferred Game with Gold because you could use your games even when not subscribed.

This way you basically need a constant membership in case you fancy playing your free games. 

PS+ has better games on it but you also pay more in the long run to obtain and play them.

Afinati
Afinati

It would have been great for discerning customers if they could return their Kinects for a refund ... but if a bunch were, well ... that'd be terrible press. lol

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

"Watch Dogs and 1080p on the PS4"

I read how 1080p was supposed to be twice as good as 720p about five years ago.  I went shopping for my first HDTV and if you removed the 720p and 1080p labels, I really would tell much of a difference.  Put the 1080p and 720p labels back on and I only want the 1080p TV.

I agree, the 1080p thing is more of a PR move.


Microsoft sans KInect

Microsoft has the brains to change on dime (the smallest coin in American money).  People frown on inconsistency, but oh well, changing on a dime is smart.



maxfilmax1
maxfilmax1

As an industrial designer for jbl i must say that xbox one is the ugliest piece of electronics to display in a house, zero inspiration in the aesthetics department, zero love, 100% money involved. result: no sales.

SerJohnnyMenace
SerJohnnyMenace

Paragon, Jess ? Paragon is for goody two shoes !  Where's your Renegade T-Shirt ? LOL

lilj2626
lilj2626

Soo Gstop Where Sony layaway??Where da GameS fa Yr contest yaw had??it was even a offer to Trade n Ps4 to git Xbx fa same price as Ps4??O well such is life Competition Is gud fa BizneSs butwe gon c how dis play out

TacticaI
TacticaI

Gamers finally put their money where their mouth is and a giant like Microsoft had no choice to bend to the people's will. Learn from this folks.  

lilj2626
lilj2626

I told Sony dis Ish cud happn dat Xbx playn Ketchup Now dey hav??NOBDY stay ontop 4eva Sony shud Ben known dat n think Ahead like dey was bk n Las Gen??i say dis 2mth ago Sony Need to drop price to stay competitive despite Sales not thinkn da Way Gamestop help wit Layaway n aw dat Crap bk n Feb??Dang Sony i told yaw besides u stil got da Availbility prob??So now i wanna c wat Sony gon do to Combat dis but much respct to Xbx SMART MARKETIN??Idk wat Sony wss zthinkn i gues dey figga to Wait til dis happn cuz Sony will Not b Ontop much Longa thx to This

vackillers
vackillers

for me its too little too late.. their services still poor compared to PS and their only doing it because they have been forced to by the PS4s dominance in the market so its just simply hitting Microsoft where it hurts. (the wallet)

cws3e
cws3e

This is probably the death kneal for the kinect.  The user base will be fragmented and developers won't develop for it as a result.  its a tired theme we gamers keep seeing with peripherals every so often.

Shmiity
Shmiity

I might go buy an X1 now.

jer_1
jer_1

Ho ho hoooo, I KNEW IT would happen! Now I may consider the bone, well done microsoft, well done...

BlackBaldwin
BlackBaldwin

Since I already have an x-1 I could really careless about this news I'm more interested in hearing if microsoft is interested in getting "GAMES" on their platform because hey lets be frank if the superior brother (PS4) keeps up with their indie program and pumping games into their platform for years to come not to mention their Triple A studios throwing in great games into the mix microsoft console may just be useless to have who cares about their network shows for the thing I want gaming entertainment darnit! 

KillaGinjaNinja
KillaGinjaNinja

I'm not really big on consoles but if I were to purchase one, it would still be a PS4. Firstly, the bad taste from MS' previous policies is still present and the fact that they are removing a paywall to access things I can ALREADY access for free through a myriad of different devices isn't changing my inclinations. Secondly, games run better on PS4 for what will be the same price. Lastly, and arguably most importantly, the PS4 has really gained a lot of momentum and has the biggest user base which means that people's friends are statistically more likely to own a PS4. Being able to play with friends is pretty much the biggest selling point of them all when selecting a console to purchase. I believe MS will have a hard time turning this situation around.

lorider25
lorider25

Microsoft keeps lying through their teeth. They said they would NEVER remove Kinect since it was an integral part of the X-Bone experience.


Too bad for you suckers who bought this right out the gate. I have no sympathy for you.

Zombie97
Zombie97

Somehow I'm not surprised about the Kinect-less Xbox One, I'm still going to buy the PS4 though because I personally prefer Sony's exclusives.

The ability to keep games was the only thing about Games With Gold that was better than PS Plus, now Microsoft has to give Gold subscribers games that match with what Sony is offering.

I'm very happy with Microsoft's decision to remove the need for Xbox Live Gold to use apps, hopefully the GameSpot app will be among them :)

milsvaard
milsvaard

Well, this makes the Xbox One more appealing to me. 100 bucks off the console is very significant.

MaddenBowler10
MaddenBowler10

The power of the consumer on display. Speak your mind and they will deliver.

Wicked869
Wicked869

Microsoft could give me an Xbox One and I would throw it out. I won't forget the things they have said and done.

ccoffey24
ccoffey24

@maxfilmax1  While I'm sure that the external look of the XBO is probably really important to you as an industrial designer, I highly doubt it has much to do with the lack of sales.  I don't know any person that "displays" a console in their house, it's utility is so much more important.  Not saying design doesn't have impact, but I think you are far overstating its impact.  

realdawn
realdawn

That's Republic from SWTOR, but, same idea really?

ECH71
ECH71

@SerJohnnyMenace  I don't think that's a logo from the Mass Effect series... or were you talking about a different game?

suppaphly42
suppaphly42

@lilj2626 English man you don't have to write the way you speak its hard to decipher

jackbatcountry
jackbatcountry

really Microsoft wallet hahaha fact free sony fanboys always make my day

sunyatanada76
sunyatanada76

I used to be an adventurer then I took a Kinect to the death kneal

ECH71
ECH71

@Shmiity  You know it's just under-powered for less, right?

sethschroeder07
sethschroeder07

@lorider25  That was last owner of the Xbox brand/line... So in other words if you are hired as the new brand manager/owner of a product and change anything (rightly or wrongly) you are likely a liar right? Also get the story straight they said they had no PLANS and that it is an INTEGRAL part of the experience. I have both systems and I can tell you the kinect in the family room is the main reason the PS4 doesn't get as much use except just to play some MLB from time to time now. 


EDIT: What I mean is that the last owner was the one who set the direction over the 2/3/4+ years of development and your not getting ride of a large part of the experience after 2-3 months on the job.

ECH71
ECH71

@MaddenBowler10  I love how gullible you guys are.

For the consumer? Pfft. Corporations do what's in their best interests, otherwise they'd go bankrupt.

You think they'd be launching this kinect-free edition this early after telling us they have no plans to do so, if the XB1 was performing well against its competition?

XxXeroxX
XxXeroxX

@MaddenBowler10  Been saying this forever. Consumer drives the market, not the other way around. 

cws3e
cws3e

@Wicked869  I know right, screw any company that listen's to the consumer.

DawgByte2
DawgByte2

@Wicked869  You sound like you'd have a problem in arguments with a girlfriend (if that's humanly possible for you).


bukyak
bukyak

@Wicked869  

I got burned by MS on 360 RROD and Xbox1- bought it at launch with the kinnect.


Thanks Microsoft!!!

vackillers
vackillers

@jackbatcountry i'm actually neither, all PC gamer here threw and threw... fanboy my ass! just how i see it.....no other reason to do a complete 180 on all their policies last year, and then doing it again now.... as for fact free, well the sales numbers speak volumes for that, you don't need me to point that out do you?

dongaconda
dongaconda

Plz show me on paper the exact game running any better on ps4 , if not stop regurgitating garbage

ECH71
ECH71

@cws3e @Wicked869  Oh, you genuinely think they did this for the consumer? 

They're desperate to move as many boxes as they can after it came to light how much of a PoS the XB1 is (performance-wise) compared to the PS4.

ECH71
ECH71

@dongaconda  Um...plenty of AAA games have been confirmed to run at 1080p/60fps on PS4 but less on the XB1...


I can't help you if you've been living under a rock...


My guess is since your profile shows you're a day old member, you've signed up to astroturf for Microsoft.

sethschroeder07
sethschroeder07

@ECH71 @cws3e @Wicked869  Does it really matter? You get what maybe 10-20 games total over a 5-8 year period that are exclusive that take advantage of the power? Otherwise your getting an almost identical experience between the two, you will get a little bit crisper image but nothing I would buy a system over I would look at the games you enjoy and the online play that you enjoy (FYI: I have both system)