GS News - Xbox One discs “like a dead body” and on for 10 years?
Codemasters founder says physical disc drive in Xbox One is like dragging a dead body, Microsoft says console designed to be on for 10 years.
by Edmond Tran and by Jess McDonell on
With the exception of a few Single player games, I intend to obtain 90% of my Xbox One games digitally.
I used to be all about physical media and rejected digital downloads. Then I contracted Steam disease and that strangely eliminated my previous hangups about digital-only games.
If you don't want the console to always be on, just unplug the console. It's not that fucking difficult to figure out.
I will always prefer having physical copies to digital ones:
~ Physical copies are simply more 'real' - you can see and touch them, not to mention that makes it a lot easier to select what you want to play.
~ Physical copies won't be wrecked if the console stuffs up and don't eat up your downloads or bandwith to get.
Good job you sent up the public service 'sarcasm' banner there Jess, had me worried for a sec :p
Also, every time I see the Kinect 2, I think of the movie 'Short Circuit'. Anyone else?
Buying games has gone from owning something for a lifetime to "gaining access to content until we decide to take the servers down", then it simply doesn't exist anymore.
I like to show off and I also like my shelf full of game boxes..
I'd only get the digital versions of game if they are cheap and mediocre gameplay and also having crappy box cover.
Whoa Whoa Whoa...Let me get this right fellow gamers.. You guys want digital only games to be released from now on?!?! I thought this was an obvious NO. I LOVE having a physical copy. Benefits: 1) Cool Box art 2) Doesn't take up storage space on your system 3) Doesn't need to download 4) Last the test of time (You will always have it on you) 5) Easy to share with friends rather than give them a way to download your copy run into DRM problems etc.
You guys let me Know. Comment on this post. I can't think of 1 benefit of digital downloads other than you don't need to leave your house. But is that such a bother?! Not passing judgement just wanna hear what you guys think
The primary motivation behind going all digital seemed to be to remove used game sales and limit competition and customer rights. Good luck going to a pawn shop and getting a cheap game you filthy criminal, you will now be required to go through Microsoft or you don't get your game. Oh and by the way, since there is less competition, your games now cost $100 each. If this should happen to make sales go down, then obviously it is due to piracy and ever more draconian DRM policies need to be implemented. Yes, the future as envisioned by Microsoft is a wonderful place. Hourly check-ins, forced advertisement watching, and constant validations for everyone! YAY!
I guess physical games won't go away anytime soon:
As soon as someone markets a "living room gaming PC" the better, consoles are just dragging us down "like a dead body".
I was hoping that the Xbox One and PS4 didn't have a disk drive. I am all for digital, even on my crappy 5MB broadband (when the wind is blowing the right way), it takes about a day to download. I tend to leave mine on over night.
I bought Diablo 3 this week because I fancied it. It was £44 on Battle.net but £30 odd on Amazon. I went with Amazon naturally and I now in the future have the choice of downloading digitally or just putting the disk in. In the mean time though that disk in its stupid oversized box is just sat on a shelf collecting dust. Totally and utterly pointless.
Have competitive digital prices (at least make them the same price) and I would download every game digitally. And will do so for the entire next gen' unless the prices are stupidly high for the digital version.
Digital games on Xbox live and PSN cost a lot more than retail copies, so how are we supposed to be happy about an all digital future? Assassins creed 4 for example is £40 to pre order at most online retailers but a ridiculous £60 on PSN. WTF is that about?
I might be tempted to buy a ps4 if some interesting games are made, but I certainly wouldn't bother with any digital only console.
@MVan86 I feel like I understand that point of view and agree with it, but as a gamer that struggles to understand where games are going I can't help but feel that digital gives the most back to the developers. I actually don't know what is better but as long as games provide a meaningful outlet for myself I will be there for to support them
@OJ99 No disassemble!
@tommystockley that sucks cause you don't get to enjoy you old time favs :'( you can't replace a great idea with a good idea. it's not an even trade!!! :'(
@Goobshoeriot Those are the same things they said about physical books
@Goobshoeriot Doesn't take up storage space on your system? Try doesn't take actual physical space in your home, where the hell would i put more than 100 boxes???? Besides at least on Pc we can save the instalation files elswhere or keep backups so we don't have to depend on the download again. Not passing judgement either. oh! and my friends can purchase their own games.
@Aphyosemion What? Advertising on my Xbox? That would drive me out of my mind real fast.
@Aphyosemion Microsoft just wants to take over the entire market of games distribution on his console. Microsoft monopolizing???? Not the first time they try.
@SeiKN internet isn't perfect....
@LOXO7 Your brother is hot.
@SpookyHoobster build one yourself. Use a micro-ATX case.
@SpookyHoobster they tried they don't sell well.
@nameaprice You mean that thing i see trough my window????? WHOAAAAAA!
@Dannystaples14 the problem with consoles is that you cant have competitive prices for digital content. Amazon, GOG, Desura, Steam, Gamestop, etc all compete with each other for the PC market. No one is going to compete for the Xbox market unless MS pulls a good samaritan and lets other retailers compete on it. That's why they wanted to cut out the used copy sales, it would've just about defeated the point on buying a physical copy then everyone would shift over to digital.
MS did say they were going to have day one Digital sales for games so there you go.
@mickyfinn84 It's completely stupid how they market it right now. They cut the costs of production and shipping with digital sales yet they charge the same price as a physical copy, usually more after a few months because with physical copies you have to move units for shelf space so a year old game still goes for the full $60. I was a bit pissed at steam for doing that with Skyrim.
@crix01 @Goobshoeriot stands the test of time? Not if it gets all scratched up.
Also keep in mind that digital is in its infancy relative to disc/cartridge based games. Sharing games is something that Valve (and likely others like MS with their family sharing) is working on. Ofc you could just log into your (very trusting) friends account and try out some games.
@sonic6748 @Aphyosemion Well, MS has said that the Xbox One was made with advertising in mind and that you could be given "incentives" to watch the advertisements. I don't mind something like, hey we noticed you watched an advertisement, you might also be interested in this, sort of like Amazon does. It is when it starts becoming, hey we noticed you DIDN'T watch an advertisement, so here it is popping up in your face and pausing your game and bouncing around in front of you! Hooray! Please watch a message from our sponsors in order to unlock your Xbox and continue playing.
@poopinpat @SpookyHoobster Won't stop consoles from dragging people down. Because of consoles, most devs create lower quality content for consoles and just upscaling graphics a little for PC, rather than developing for PC first and then cutting content for consoles. Hell, sometimes game devs are forced (or bribed) by console devs to lower the quality of the PC games so they don't feel embarrassed by the sheer difference in quality.
@Goobshoeriot Just a side note for everyone to think about, since when has any gamer out there tried to get "free games" through their friends via Digital Transfers?
Sad thing is, if microsoft is worried about piracy of their games and thats why they wanna go digital, thats not gonna help. there's always going to be a hacker, or pirate that figures out how to steal the games no matter what.
Hard copies I think are better cause what happens if microsoft get hacked like sony did? what if you lose all your game purchases? No hard copy, ur outa luck!
@poopinpat Ok for @crix01 really dude?! you have a 100 games and can't find room to put it in. I think all those games could fit in a large box anywhere in your house unless your homeless. @poopinpat Good point scratched discs are dead weight. And Yea if they go they way it would be great like "hey [friend] wanna borrow this game? sure. Here's the link" but being pessimistic I don't see them doing this anytime soon cause these company's are already worried about piracy add in that you can give 1 copy of a game to 10 people they'll find another way to stiff you. Also, yea i log into my friend's accounts sometimes but it's kind of a pain right now (whatever suck it up). and @masterhound you're really comparing this to books?! I don't think people care that much about paper products anymore. Ex: Newspaper. but yea i guess
@SeiKN @poopinpat No cheaters as long as you stay away from CoD lol. Yea consoles definitely serve their purpose, I only say go PC because I couldn't afford to shell out that kind of cash for new games.
Upgrading is a drag, but I don't find myself being forced into it too much (but it does happen). I buy a lot of games, and getting them on steam during sales justifies the cost of pc components for me.
Neither is better, it all completely depends on your situation in life.
@SeiKN thats comparable to what I pay. Game savings make the PC worthwhile imo.
@poopinpat@SeiKN@megakick I was talking about on PlaystationStore via download. The PC games are 50 or 40 € = 66 or 53 $