GS News - Watch Dogs + Dark Souls II Release Dates Announced!

We dig into the Killzone: Shadow Fall 1080p controversy, run you through Dragon Age: Inquisition’s trailer and clue you in on some HUGE release dates!

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57 comments
climber207
climber207

specs for new consoles are really poor compare pc, I have ps4 and xbox one but most of the time I play with my pc. console games are getting behind pc each generation.

PFCMike
PFCMike

All this resolution bs. People should be focused on games that are fun and innovative and complex. I don't care what the specs are as long as it looks good enough for immersion and excitment. I liked the graphics on 360 and ps3. Why don't they use the extra power of the new hardware to make deeper and bigger games not just the same games with slightly better looks.

locknuts84
locknuts84

"Every other non-Nintendo platform". Lol, poor Nintendo...


Anyway I'll get Watch_Dogs and maybe even give Dark Souls II a go. Both on PC.

GarGx1
GarGx1

I'll probably end up with both Watchdogs and Dark Souls II (PC versions), what I am really waiting for is the Dog fighting alpha for Star Citizen, which may just put them on ice :)


After all the hype that Gorilla put into Shadow Fall multiplayer being 1080p @ 60 fps it turns out to be smoke and mirrors! Not really surprising though.

kenpachi212
kenpachi212

MUAHAHAHA - I already have DARK SOULS 2 - MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA

grin89
grin89

the excitement i felt when i heard the release date for dark souls on console was the 11th. and the let down when i found out it wouldnt be available for either xbox one of ps4 because i have already traded in both my old systems. :(

MaP_Hagmen
MaP_Hagmen

I'm I the only one bored with all this 1080p 60fps news, what about going back to basic, does it look good?, this the game fun to play? is the game buggy? it we happy with them answers game on

AK1015
AK1015

I don't know about anyone else, but Killzone Shadow Fall looks crisp and clear on my 1080p TV.

SoulCondemner
SoulCondemner

I don't care. I had more fun playing Doom on my dad's old computer when I was 5 than I do on any game nowadays. So much for frame rate and resolution.

youre_a_sheep
youre_a_sheep

The people obsessing over resolution and framerate have reached Sheldon Cooper levels of neurotic.

Findy37564
Findy37564

Watch Dog Release date is the same with my birthday :3
i hope someone give me Watch Dog as birthday present

kovaras1984
kovaras1984

Game Res doesnt matter, killzone is upscaled they claimed it was native, got caught out so put a spin on it, they shouldn't lie about it, sony also advertised this game as 1080p


carnt help but wounder how many other games use this trick to achieve 1080p tho and pass it off as native. and if the ps4 is all powerful why would this b necessary in the first place? arrrrGHHH resolution take again >.< 


 damm it jess your normally our escape from all this resolution bs! tho if you didnt mention it we would call you sonyspot lol so i guess you carnt win :)

JetSetWally
JetSetWally

throw invisible ball in air at 6 seconds nice!

hope they do sort out controls for pc dark souls 2,  the port for 1 was shocking.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

Resolution, sigh!

With the Killzone stuff it is all about how you perceive 1080p. On PC lets not lie it is very primitive even to this day. Sure they have massive GPUs and everything but the fundamentals of a PC have barely changed in decades. Unlike the consoles which tend to design their system from the ground up to get the absolute most out of every component. On PC it is more like you NEED a gigantic set of components because every piece of software will pull power from a single pool of power. Meaning even my web browser will take small amount of power from my game.

If you take resolution to be the number of pixels on the screen at every single moment then it is probably 1080p no matter what they do. But for PC they render all 1080 x whatever pixels for every frame. If someone can give 1080p visuals with less power that is perfectly fine by me. And honestly that is something PC should be more inclined to strive for. But I bet Nvidia won't be too happy about that.

It still makes no difference to the games at all.

I am getting a little sick of the same old PS4 and Xbox One news right now. Dark Souls II can't arrive fast enough.

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

Watching Jess is always right.  There's nothing wrong with that.

Bobdog52
Bobdog52

Best part of the video - The blue dress

Worst part of the video - More frame rate news

jblp24
jblp24

This issue with games being or not being in 1080p is an unfortunate obsession so far this generation, and in particular, for trolls and Gamespot, which seem to be one and the same.

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

OMG, that dress looks awesome on you.  I don't mean to be repetitive and drive you crazy, but you are very very beautiful Jess.   I hope you didn't let anything that nit-twit sociopath thrombosis45 posted about you affect you in any way.  None of it is true.


Dragon Age Inquisition -- Great.  I look forward to playing as Morigan as the mage.


Watch Dogs and Ubisoft -- Great.



1080p Temporal re-projection, astral projection, space-time warp resolution -- who cares?   If you take a magnifying glass and get really close to you television, you might spot a difference.


Great show.

krishnaV_
krishnaV_

I still remain skeptical about Watchdogs. They might just postpone the release date once again.

eliasmontejano
eliasmontejano

*sigh* damn it jess... just damn it. So many games so little time. ya know?

SlyMC182
SlyMC182

Personally I do not care if a game is on the PS4 or Xbox One if it runs at 720p or 1080p, 30fps or 60fps as long as it is a good game and is as stable and bug free as possible. Gameplay is much more important to me then technical details and getting into a pissing match about which console is best.

TimberWolf_CLT
TimberWolf_CLT

Not that it matters at all, but I've always liked that blue dress. 

Anyway, nice to finally have release dates.  Watch Dogs was the game that got me to buy early.  Joke was on me wasn't it?  Oh well, soon.  Of course, I'll be so busy with Titanfall on PC that I'll probably miss the release date.

You know, it's probably because I'm older, but when I'm in a multiplayer match, I'm usually running and most of the graphics become a blur anyway.  I'm sure that folks with micrometers and a 75" flat screen will easily be able to see the difference in Shadow Fall.  But seriously, will it make that much difference?

hystavito
hystavito

Dark Souls 2 will play PERFECTLY on PC.  What a relief, I mean it has to be totally true and accurate, no way they are just saying that :).  I wonder why no one ever thought to make PC ports play perfectly in the past?  Weird.


I didn't go over the temporal reprojection explanation again, but my initial thought was it sounded kinda like interlacing.  Is there a video engineer in the house?

locknuts84
locknuts84

@grin89  I have a PS3 with PS+ and wouldn't dream of trading it in for a PS4. I get great free games every month instead of the crap that currently inhabits the PS4 library. Don't worry though, Titanfall looks awesome. I'm getting it for PC.

nl_skipper
nl_skipper

@grin89  Ack, you're crazy!   I don't know how people who love games can just get rid of their older systems as though they're useless!  Especially when you see how inflated the prices have become for slightly older hardware like the SNES and even N64.

andmcq
andmcq

@MaP_Hagmen  Especially since it's 1080p. If it were a decent/impressive resolution then it'd be maybe something to be excited about. If anything it's a little embarrassing for both Sony and MS that 1080p/60 is even a selling point. Both Consoles should walk that in, they should have been looking at 2.7k/30 as an acceptable standard for this generation.

teknic1200
teknic1200

@SoulCondemner  I had freeware doom when it released and played it for hours on end.


it was an ugly hideous game and pretty much awful.

kenundrum7
kenundrum7

@youre_a_sheep Cool. Count me in.

You must have an Xbox One.

xeis-net
xeis-net

@kovaras1984  killzone runs at native 1080p as advertised by sony.  The Multiplayer uses temporal projection in order to build 1080p screens. It is moot if the production of 1080p from a buffer that is under 1080p is native 1080p, I dont have a view as the real issue is how are these consoles going to output 4k, which is the next gen not 1080p imo.

elaisse2
elaisse2

@Dannystaples14  Well these console were slapped together for price, so your not getting the juice out of the hardware. People have expectations and these console are under powered to lower cost.

locknuts84
locknuts84

@andmcq  Agree 100%. I just goes to show the effect of diminishing returns. 1080p/60fps shouldn't even be a thing. Framerate drops should have been eliminated by now. And I mean COMPLETELY.

shadow580
shadow580

@xeis-net @kovaras1984  You can't compare a console to a PC. Shadow of the Colossus on the PS2 ran games at something like 640*480 or less while PCs could do 1600*1200.


4K is never going to happen on the PS4 and X1 and it's a ridiculous idea in the first place because you need EXPENSIVE hardware to run even current gen games at such resolution at something like 30 fps. You're completely delusional.

cws3e
cws3e

@xeis-net @kovaras1984  the storage requirements for 4k are ridiculous, they are never going to output at 4k (an uncompressed 2h movie in 4k is 500 GB)

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@elaisse2 They were slapped together for a price true. But underpowered?

The components might not be top end PC, but that is because realistically they don't really need to be.

A PC is so inefficient. It wastes a tonne of its own power simply by being a PC. I dare a PC to get the same amount of game graphics and performance out of the same set of components as in the Xbox One and PS4.

With how crap the optimisation is on PC, it will never happen. Just playing on Windows in the first place makes it handicapped.

The reason PC gamers tend to go with super uber Titans and 770s is because the need the extra power to brute force their way through all of the shitty unoptimised games.

Besides, games have been getting worse for years. It is time developers start making fun games again and not just crappy boring games that are all flash and no substance.

It is no coincidence that as the obsession with power and graphics went up on console last generation that the quality of the games went down. There is more to gaming than how big your GPU and CPU are.

If I cared about that I'd go build a PC. But I don't. And in fact it is one of the reasons PC falls short for me.

TimberWolf_CLT
TimberWolf_CLT

@tempertress @TimberWolf_CLT Sorry, I mixed it up with one of your shirts.  Oh well...   At least I meant well.  :)

Duttyhandz
Duttyhandz

@JensKDK @cws3e@xeis-net@kovaras1984 Nothing to do with this. Moore's law is about halving the size of transistors on chips every two years. And that law is coming to an end on silicon chip as Intel predicted. So, either they will start enlarging the chips to contain more transistors or a new medium will have to be found i.e. something to replace silicon at comparable price for the raw material and production of such chips.


But the fact remains, anyway, that 4K is pretty much useless to most living rooms, because of the size of the screen required to have the full benefit of it at the distance we are sitting from our TV. On computer, sitting at 2 feet from a 32 inch screen is realistic. In a living room, sitting at 7 feet from a 120 inch TV is less realistic, only were it for the money... See Carlton Bale article at http://carltonbale.com/does-4k-resolution-matter/ to read more about this and understand the whole concept.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@GarGx1 They might have the majority of console games but the minority that don't make it are normally the better games.

Halo, Gears, GTA V, Forza, all games I've poured tonnes of time into and none of them on PC.

I have problems getting into old games. Partly because they are old. If there isn't nostalgia holding me in I find it difficult.

I can't stand Diablo I for example. Just too old, just too clunky. Diablo III on the other hand is awesome.

Same with something like Doom or one of the others of around the same time. It is fun (once you've modded it so mouse works again, sigh!) for a short time but then you realise you are wasting your time in pre-2000 games when there are tonnes of modern games to play. Lasts an hour if that?

PCs only advantage is the games are prettier, and they are cheaper.

I don't have time to play 100s of games a year. I'm lucky if I get through 10. Which means one console is more than enough. Sure exclusives suck when you can't play a certain game because you don't own a console and the quicker they die the better games will be in general.

But I'll take a game like GTA V over graphics any day of the week. And I'll take leprocy over using a keyboard.

At least I don't get trounced in multiplayer just because someone has better internet and FPS than me.

You'd have the be a moron to buy two consoles just for exclusives but that doesn't make PC any better value.

Not when I have to use up space for a desktop and the accompanying monitor which then cannot be used anywhere but that location.

PC gaming to me isn't horrible, but it just doesn't sit right with me. It is just uncomfortable and I have more negativity about it in general than positive. When quantum computing takes off and you can have the equivalent of ten titans in the same volume as a mobile phone. I'll probably consider it.

I'd buy a laptop but they are way too over priced for the power you get.

GarGx1
GarGx1

@Dannystaples14 From reading your post it sounds like you should be gaming on a PC.


Inefficiencies aside, it's the platform to go to for innovation and new ideas. There are literally hundreds of game releases every year which cater to all tastes in gaming, from all the big multiplats (which will be by far the majority of consoles games) to big budget exclusives like Star Citizen. Then there are the multitudes of mid budget and smaller games, many of which are utter trash but loads of them are amazing (Elite : Dangerous, Wasteland 2, Project Eternity to name a few). Then of course there is an old library of many thousands of games you'll never have had the opportunity to play on console and you don't need a high end system for.


The only thing you don't get on PC are a handful of platform exclusives and if you want to play all or most of them you need more than one console, which negates the cost factor of building a PC.

heguain
heguain

What's wrong with you two?