GS News - Titanfall Install Is HUGE, Is Xbox One Product of the Year?

Xbox One snags a ‘Product of the Year 2014’ award and finally gets Twitch TV streaming, while Titanfall has a massive install, but just HOW big?

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lilj2626
lilj2626

tel me y MS give U da Titan Bundle but u download da game??? y not give u da Disc n play???wat if Servers aint wrkn??wat if u git a msg sayn THIS HAS BEN USED ALREDY??ijs if u gon do it do it RIGHT ya dig???Sony yaws betta pay attn cuz MS tlkn Price dropz???i say make a Basic Ps4 4 300 350 den aNY bundles will go fa 400???hope dat makes sense cuz it WILL force Sony to drop price ov course fa now dey figga its all good we Outsellin n aint No need to do it???Point is MS tryna compete so Gamers will hav EQUAL choice so Sony git hip drop ya price den 3-6mths lata MS will do da same Competition is Gud 4 Business

lilj2626
lilj2626

wel im sho MS did jus like dey pay fa COD DLC dey gitn it b4 ERYBODY else???its amazn how a system is on LAYAWY AT GamSTOP it ant ben a Yr yet n xbox gitn it alredy  but u can hardly find it as wit Ps4??so yes dey pay4 dat crap aaward

0o-saxon
0o-saxon

Not sick of hearing about TITANFALL just sick of waiting lol

lordknickersnif
lordknickersnif

Microsoft paid for the PotY title! I know because PotY used to be clients in my previous employment. Their business model is actually a neat marketing trick;

1 - companies are invited to submit product(s) for the 'award'.

2 - each submitted product has to pay PotY for entry into the consumer survey - and for every stage there after. So if you don't submit and pay, your product is not considered (Sony, Nintendo etc) and therefore your product could be the only entry in a given category.

3 - with nothing to compare against in that category, the Xbox would have 'won' by default. Sony, Nintendo etc may have entered but I doubt it?!

4 - Microsoft pay PotY more money to actually 'win' the 'award' and for use of the PotY logo (which apparently drives up sales through consumer confidence).

5 - as a result of all this, Microsoft get to boast about an award for the Xbox One (albeit an expensive one) and PotY get free advertising on Microsoft merchandising.

So winning PotY doesn't mean anything. It's basically paying for a logo to help boost consumer confidence in a particular product in the hope it will drive up sales.

Goobshoeriot
Goobshoeriot

o.. and who else thinks this will be the Feedbackula topic this week? *raises hand*

Goobshoeriot
Goobshoeriot

Product of the Year... my ass! Who was the runner up? Skittles? or maybe that sweet new hoover bagless vacuum?...they definitely didn't include the PS4 in the lineup

ebookerd1
ebookerd1

Hate Hate Hate Hate... Geeze come one guys its not that serious!

cryofax
cryofax

This isn't the award for best selling console, or even best console. It's product of the year, which could have any manner of criteria. The XBox one does do some innovative things. Nothing anybody wants, but nonetheless it does them lol.

homerlvsbeer
homerlvsbeer

one game and its best product of the year. cow pat.

clr84651
clr84651

Get carried away much? The X1 is PoS of the year! 

los101278
los101278

Jess, you are one sexy thing!! For the 1st time in my life I'm in love. Don't tell that to my wife. I'll be in the dog house.. Lol

But for you Jess I'll be in the dog house all year.

Let me holla at you?

Findy37564
Findy37564

Is it really Product of the year award?
not the LoL of the year award? 

CPTCUDDLES
CPTCUDDLES

ps4 doubles sells......and xbox wins..... 

CPTCUDDLES
CPTCUDDLES

hell ya xbone will get best product! microsoft gives the award....

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

1. Doesn't PS4 have twitch already? When the hell are they going to put their new console owners first? Geez this is sad....


2. Well for me it's all according. Am I getting more or less for double the space. As pathetic as M$ been to their fans I will sit and wait and not start crying foul just yet. For Cripes sake there is enough reason already without Titanload er fall.. =)


3. Completely unfair. No one can call it this early. Just sounds desparate. Gods damn M$ did you have sex with Satan and spawn EA games because sure as hell looks as if they got their PR stupidity from you guys....


4. Take 2 and 3 into account then yeah absolutely they sounding desparate. With their bad PR who wouldn't make that move?


Pathetic the fan base is likely the most intelligent people involved in Xbox One... not it's developers....sigh....

nesky
nesky

How MS even managed to sell that system to anyone will forever be a mystery to me. I wouldn't play it even if I got it for free... I'd sell it on ebay!

Fatalv
Fatalv

What a joke of a survey. No information on other products surveyed, how it was conducted, why it was conducted 2 months into the year, etc. Sounds like complete B.S.


At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the 40,000 people surveyed wasn't just the entire MS staff :P

azwildcats585
azwildcats585

I am buying my xbox one from the United Kingdom and getting it shipped over and also going to get the ps4 as well so I will have both systems.

cws3e
cws3e

The X1 was way over priced in the UK, and you could reasonably argue it still is considering currency exchange rates.

cws3e
cws3e

X1 is an engineering feat.  Whether it impresses consumers, that is another matter altogether.  Lots of interesting and even good products fail.

dbene
dbene

All you people trashing Xbone......give me some actual reasons. For Launch games the lineup was not bad at all. They play all the third party games just as good as PS4 and look amazing. It has some hiccups but nothing major. Everyone gives the kinect hell, but many of you people trashing it are the ones who love "game videos". You can already record podcast type videos with the kinect and post all over the internet via the skydrive. With PS4 the seperate eyecam must be bought. It's a pretty damn sweet product for me overall so far. 

furrionn
furrionn

Jess, you are really really really annoying. 

Pheonix985
Pheonix985

I love buying tangible games only to have them downloaded and installed to my hard-drive, don't you?  40 gigs?  So if I get my midnight release version, I'll be lucky to play it by 3 a.m.  Why just a price cut in the UK?  UK must be really special to MS or something.  

dbene
dbene

Jess looks super cute in red

TimberWolf_CLT
TimberWolf_CLT

Nice tempo and energy today Jess, nicely done.

The Titanfall install "debate" intrigues me as it's a dust-up over non-news.  40GB is a large install but as others have pointed out, that's the digital (as in no optical disc) one.  This includes not only the core game but all of the data assets as well.  Such data assets include textures and level data, etc.

With the disc-based install, the core game (think executable and data that always needs to be loaded) assets are loaded on the console but level data can remain on the disc.  Hence the smaller 20GB install footprint in that case.  This is in line with other games.

That all being said, why is this size such an issue and a surprise?  We're always clamoring for more functionality, better AI, more-better graphics and such.  No offense folks, that's going to result in a larger install footprint.

The reaction to the X1 price reduction amuses me as well.  From day one folks have been sniping MS for their price point.  So, MS now announces a price reduction and folks are bitching and ridiculing MS about that.  I especially love the fact that some individuals are stating that it means that MS is in dire financial straights.  (Seriously?  MS has a huge market share in the business software world.  Also, they're making almost as much money off of their Android-related patents.)

With the X1, MS has a large margin with the original price and therefore has room to work the price and still make a nice profit off of each unit sold.  By the six-month point I wouldn't be surprised to see that the price is a little less than the cost of a PS4/Eye bundle.  At that point they can claim "price-parity".


Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

If the price of the Xbox One, with or without Kinect, was the same as the PS4, I'd probably not even look at the PS4 to be honest. 

I've loved Xbox since the original. I don't have anything against Playstation per say but I do like my Xbox's.

People saying you pay more for less is crap, you don't pay more for less, you pay more for more. But it all depends on whether the more on offer is something you want.

If they didn't bundle the Kinect I wouldn't touch it. But Microsoft have integrated it into the console. Whether we like it or not, that is what they have done. If it drops their sales as a result that is a lesson learned by them. 

The rest of us will be preoccupied playing our PS4s instead while they sort it out.

xen0f0rm
xen0f0rm

@Kinguard73  PS4 has a half baked version of Twitch. It's extremely limited compared to the Xbox One's version. Just because it's on there doesn't mean it's good.

BooBoo1688
BooBoo1688

The PlayStation 3 launched on November 17, 2006, and the 60GB models were sold for the scandalous price of $600

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

@azwildcats585 Well least you only wasted 500 dollars for a couple of exclusives that apparently will also be on PC grats.

CPTCUDDLES
CPTCUDDLES

@dbene  ya....but it doesnt play games just as good as ps4....anybody that thinks it does is absolutely clueless...you probly think obamacare is good for America, you idiot.

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

@dbene 1. DRM they backtracked on tried to take your rights as owners of your games away.

2. The requited extra 100 dollars for a doorstop er Kinect most could have done without and is still mostly worthless except as a NSA spybot.

3. You paid 100 dollars more for a system proven to be weaker then it's competitor.

4. They continually insults most of their consumers intelligence by making excuses at recent statements/press releases (except you apparently)


You want to be used that is fine for me and my crew? It's PS4. If I knew where you lived I'd have sent some K-Y for future M$ 'love'.

kenundrum7
kenundrum7

@furrionn I you are not trolling, then don't watch.

She is just fine. I like her just fine.

BooBoo1688
BooBoo1688

@Pheonix985 Games on Xbox One become playable when they are around 5% installed, therefore you can play the game without interference as it finishes installing.

cws3e
cws3e

@Pheonix985  they would have to cut the price by another 100 pounds just to get it down to the price of the console in the US.

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

@Pheonix985  British money is worth more than American money so they are still paying more. 

youre_a_sheep
youre_a_sheep

@TimberWolf_CLT With 160+ GB of space on the hard drive unavailable, right out of the gate you're looking at fairly limited space.  If someone prefers digital versions and Titanfall is an average size, that's less than ten games that can fit on the hard drive!

Personally I have a 60GB fat PS3 and have juggled my library for years, deleting installs on games I've finished and won't come back to for a while to make room for the new.  It's not a crisis, but in the world of hard drives 500GB is nothing, so to go with that size for a console expected to last beyond the end of the decade is inexcusable.  I guarantee the first revamped models will have at least twice as much space.  Ultimately early adopters are getting punished again.

dbene
dbene

@Dannystaples14  

Can't understand the hate for Kinect. So far ... my use of it is not groundbreaking but really neat. Also great to have a fully functional audio and video camera built in for game videos (and really any other video making) once youtube sharing is implemented.

xeis-net
xeis-net

@Dannystaples14  People are saying you get less for more because many don't want the white elephant kinect and the x1's graphics & memory architecture is inferior to the PS4: unbelievably given 360's superiority over PS3 was largely due to its unified memory!  Anyway once they dump the kinect i'm sure the X1 will do fine, imo.


nesky
nesky

@shinjuki @nesky Indeed. I am dumb for hypothetically wanting to sell something I got for free because I have no interest in it. You sir are a genius. I will continue being dumb, intellect like yours is way out of my league ^_^

jimgray1066
jimgray1066

@CPTCUDDLES @dbeneUniversal healthcare is always good.  The must buy Kinect and the Xbone under performing on graphics are bad.  Calling someone an idiot for having an opinion he backs up is not necessary.  I am most likely moving from 360 to a PS4 in the near future for @dbene's legit reasons and the option of playing some mmo's on console,

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

@saadomar @furrionn What she supposed to do ignore all the 'kick me' signs on xbox fans backs place by M$ themselves. You guys make it all too easy honestly.

VegasDawg
VegasDawg

@dbene @Dannystaples14  Most hate you can blame on change,people hate change, and the fact that the first Kinect sucked so naturally dumbasses presume this one sucks to.

kovaras1984
kovaras1984

@dbene @Dannystaples14niether can i, xbone works find if you unplug kinet. and kinet defo has its advantages. the media side of things is great xbox pause xbox play etc works everytime when watching a blueray or dvd etc (alltho barely responds during games

youre_a_sheep
youre_a_sheep

@dbene @Dannystaples14There are already webcams and lots of people upload videos of gaming.  Kinect has about as much utility today as an iPod.  Bottom line, no one can name a single good game based around Kinect, it's a forced $100 peripheral for a system that treats gaming as a footnote.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@xeis-net Also the memory on the Xbox One is FASTER, than on the PS4, it is just it isn't as common a memory type for developers to use.

The wanted to use eSRAM so they can utilise tiled resources more effectively for DX11.2. eSRAM is a hell of a lot better at that job than GDDR5. The only issue is if developers can be bothered to utilise it.

Microsoft actually had a long term plan. Sony just brought out a more powerful PS3 and will be now be trying to think of better things to do on the console while Microsoft are putting their own new plans into action because they have actual ideas at hand already.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@xeis-net The graphics are identical. The resolution is higher.

The graphics that actually matter are the same. I bet if you were to take a side by side video of Xbox One and PS4 and lock the video at 720p you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Graphics is more than just the number of pixels.

bulletprooff14
bulletprooff14

We already get many great games for free on playstation plus,more new exclusives coming up and better versions of multiplat games. Also look at the exclusive games overall on the ps3 and 360. Playstation 4 is a no brainer for gamers.

dbene
dbene

@youre_a_sheep @dbene @Dannystaples14  


yes it's not forced and it's very handy if you never even want to use it for a game. All of these people who want to make game videos for PS4 now have to go buy a cam if they want to be included on screen. It's great to be built in, IMO and not optional. Also great for Skype and MUCH better than a normal webcam. Absoultely can't see how the $100 is such a breaking point when people shell all kinds of money for DLC and in game transactions for crap all the time. 

kovaras1984
kovaras1984

@youre_a_sheep @dbene@Dannystaples14its part of their system, they choose to include it. its not forced, microsoft is not holding a gun to your head and forcing you to buy an xbone The gaming aspect of kinect maybe over stated but now streaming on twitch is in xbone users have a 1080p camera to play with. skype is awsome with kinect. pausing tv with a command is awsome. snapping your tv to watch the football mid game is awsome


bottom line is kinect is not forced on you, you dont have to buy xbone. its just part of there product

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@shina777  I will. Have you seen how shit the textures are in COD MW1? I played that game for months and months. It never bothered me then. And it still doesn't now.

Which would be fine if the textures were terrible in this game but they aren't that are they?

Anything that improves on last gen is fine by me. Otherwise I'd just buy a PC.

shina777
shina777

@Dannystaples14  Yup just keep telling yourself that, it makes it more bearable.