GS News - Steam Machines, PC Dominance + GTA V microtransactions

Valve has announced Steam Machines as their answer to hardware, Nvidia says consoles will never best PCs, the GTAV to PC petition is still rising and GTAV Online microtransactions have been confirmed!

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_huh
_huh

Jess please don't ever stop making videos here. 

x2rufff4u
x2rufff4u

Girls can learn something from her.

Hrebo
Hrebo

finally she is back!!

King_Wii
King_Wii

If they have your blood does that mean they can make clones? Are you a clone?

jflkdjs
jflkdjs

Microtransactions! Blah :P

Hey! welcome back Jess :)

clr84651
clr84651

PC GO AWAY! CONSOLES ARE CONSOLES & PCs ARE PCs. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GO AWAY ALREADY!!!

_Roo_
_Roo_

NVIDIA cutting down the next gen consoles.  Just a coincidence the XBone and PS4 are using Radeon hardware I'm sure.  

Not that I don't agree with what he said about PC being superior, I'm just saying.

EdAl2112
EdAl2112

For the money you guys pay on PC for graphics cards, upgrades every few months and whatnot it ever be better  than console graphics wise. I however am happy to stay on the console side. Not that worried about jaggies and 5 digit resolutions. :)

tomservo51
tomservo51

Just when I got used to Chris Watters. Oh well. Welcome back Jess.

Goobshoeriot
Goobshoeriot

is it just me or do you think the reason why no one has responded to the GTA V thing coming to pc is because it'd be too easy to mod the game then... and I think Rockstar doesn't want (or is afraid of)  another "coffee mod" scandal to happen

kevicus12
kevicus12

Chris did a great job in your absence, Jess, but it's panda awesome to have you back!

dunkanlord
dunkanlord

where i can feel petition about gta 5 on pc?

telaros
telaros

D'aww she makes this site so much more worth visiting <3
News. Just news. No drama, just news. Thank you. And see you next update!

cheese232323
cheese232323

Jess what you do for holiday? I once drove from Darwin to Adeleide...

coolmike999
coolmike999

So here's what I believe are the facts - Valve has developed an OS that is a Linux variant

Valve has been working with 3rd parties to release Steam boxes that run their OS


Please correct me if these facts are in dispute. While this sounds great, there are issues. The reason games are not great on Linux has to do with hardware drivers for the GPU's. They're terrible. The reason they're terrible is that they refuse to make good open source drivers, as that would make their IP vulnerable. I think they can make closed drivers, but the Linux community seems to hate that, because it's contrary to the open-source philosophy. Hopefully the SteamOs changes that situation. Once there are good drivers, developers will be more willing to support the platform.


However, this is a long-term thing. If they release the box tomorrow, very little will run on it that compares to even console-quality graphics.I like Valve, and I would love for this to take off - but it seems like they have some large hurdles ahead.

barrica
barrica

Im loving the idea of Steam OS. Pc will always be ahead of consoles as you can upgrade when you want, thats the problem of pcs if today you spend top dollar to get the best stuff out, in 4 years its obsolete, while buying a console in the next 5 years everyone is still playing, I know that consoles are always playing catch up with pcs but for me its a better bussines model, You get cheaper games on pc true but how many people play online on pcs in comparason to consoles? i bet theres more people playing multiplayer on consoles for the simple fact its easier and cheaper, yet i dont know how we are paying for online subscriptions on consoles, we should start a pettition for that!

kgallis21
kgallis21

@clr84651 yea if u like inferior graphics. Look I understand not everyone can afford a High end PC but there's no denying its superiority to home consoles.

allty123
allty123

@EdAl2112 Yup, I think it's a shame people have such a view of PC gaming... My PC cost me around £900 in 2008. I upgraded my mobo and cpu and ram in 2010 (£250). So that's £1150? You'd need a pc anyway for work/internet, which is about £600 (more if you're a Mac user!) for a non-gaming pc. I.e. I paid about £600 more than the average consumer. ps3 was like £500 when it came out. I also pay about £10 (at least!) less money per AAA game. I've bought maybe 40 (AAA) games since 2008 (and a few indies, obvs). so that's potentially £400 'saved' over consoles. So, cost of console gaming would be £500 (if you bought in first few months...) + £600 (presumed PC cost for daily use). Then potentially £300-400 more in games. That's more than £1400. I'm only now thinking I need to upgrade my grfx card to play new gen games on high settings... And a new card will probably cost me a similar price (if not less) than a console. I'll probably be able to afford a new case as well for the same money :) 

Personally, I think the PC choice, if done with a bit of planning and careful purchases, can come out more financially sound, + you get better grfx. (Although I did get windows and office for cheap through school... that knocked off like £150 :p) 


StealthHimself
StealthHimself

@EdAl2112 Shoot, I still use my Nvidia 9600 GSO from '08 and can still play a majority of games on medium settings. Inform yourself pal.

ecburton
ecburton

@EdAl2112 Agreed, there are upgrades involved. But my PCs usually last a good 3-4 years until I upgrade the video card.

Daz_QS
Daz_QS

@EdAl2112 LOL @ upgrades every few months. Clear you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about when it comes to PC gaming.

StealthHimself
StealthHimself

@EdAl2112 Hardware has become so powerful that you should only need a newer video card for a good 3-5 years nowadays.

Fanible
Fanible

@Goobshoeriot What are you talking about?  One of the main factors and points of it coming to the PC is because of the mods.  The modding community for GTAIV is pretty big.

Furthermore, the "coffee mod" (which was actually called "Hot Coffee") had nothing to do with modders' original design.  That minigame was already in the game's original code, which is why it was a big deal.  The developers were the ones who designed it.  Rockstar isn't responsible for mods that other people make for the game.  Otherwise Bethesda would be getting tons of flak for all the nude and sex mods for Elder Scrolls.

GTAV is coming to PC, just like every other GTA.  It's just a matter of when.

ecburton
ecburton

@coolmike999 Haven't you heard? Nvidia is wholly onboard with this. But doesn't matter to me, I'll never have a living room PC. Just too hard to do with my racing sim/flying sim, 5.1 surround sound peripherals.

nyran125tk
nyran125tk

@coolmike999 they'll have to make everything backwards compatible for me. But then what will most likely happen is geniuses will release crazy 3rd party add ons for everything so you can practically do everything you do on Windows with it. So youll use 3rd party drivers. Which in my experience normally work just as good and have other features the real ones don't anyway.

Daz_QS
Daz_QS

@kgallis21 @clr84651 I'd say inferior graphics, frame rate, load times, and overall performance. On top of that mod-ability. PC gaming is something most console gamers will never truly understand until they have a gaming rig of their own.

coolmike999
coolmike999

@nyran125tk I'm sorry - I don't understand what you're saying. Backwards compatible with what? What 3rd party drivers? The reason GPU's don't work well on Linux is that the good stuff on the GPU is secret, and 3rd parties can't write for it. There are no good 3rd party GPU drivers. Do you have examples to the contrary?

Fanible
Fanible

@Obliderate @Daz_QS @kgallis21 Spoken like a true console gamer.  Oblivious to how inferior the graphics on consoles have been, compared to what we've been experiencing on PC.

ecburton
ecburton

@Daz_QS @kgallis21 @clr84651 I saw GTAV at a buddy's house last weekend. I've not seen many Xbox games. It looked pretty cool, but the "jaggies" were really bad. He's a pc gamer as well, and he said a top end PC would take  those jaggies away.

Obliderate
Obliderate

@Daz_QS @kgallis21  there's no performance issues or load time issues and the graphics are superb on both consoles... what your arguing about is pointless and childish to say the least. "To each his own"