GS News - Sony Says EA Access is Bad Value; Xbox One Is $600 In China

The real reason EA Access is Xbox exclusive, China gets its first major console in over a decade, and over 4.6 million people played the Destiny beta!

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lostn
lostn

Even if either console maker sells a lot of consoles in China, don't count on anyone buying any software...

lostn
lostn

$600 for xbone... China is used to things being cheaper not dearer!

BigPrimeNumbers
BigPrimeNumbers

While I tend to think Sony is correct here – just think, would anyone really pay Universal for the right to watch some of their content, as opposed to Netflix for a wide array of content – best to leave the choice to consumers. Chris Plante over at Polygon had a good article about how this is a nice idea, but not really a good deal for anyone but the most diehard of EA fans.

Otawo
Otawo

I don't think that there is a single game that Nintendo can release to get out of the red. I think that they need to get a bunch of games out there, console exclusive, and also multiplats, and not dumbed down years old mulitplats like that Sniper Elite garbage.

Bowser05
Bowser05

I actually think the EA Access is a pretty good value. I don't doubt that EA will ruin it quickly enough, but it's cool as it stands right now.


I'm glad that China is getting the X1 finally with some pretty nice bundles too. As much as I love my PS4...the lack of games that I'm interested in on the platform is making me regret having bought it a couple weeks ago. My Wii U and X1 get much more game time. I hope that changes soon.

charlesswann
charlesswann

xone is already dead before it comes out.  Not good for sales, that.

thesilverape
thesilverape

By "bad value", Sony actually means "Playstation Now" competitor.

xneonic
xneonic

I hope that Nintendo will follow Sega's model after the Dreamcast and license their games for Xbox and PS in the upcoming years. Who doesn't wanna play Mario on their next-gen console?!


rolla020980
rolla020980

From PC World:

"But games offered domestically must be submitted to Chinese regulators for approval, which could mean that more violent titles are banned or toned down in some way"

Great... here we go. If China becomes the largest market for XBOX One, and PS4 down the road (with 3.5 billion people it could), then the games will be different, That concerns me.

travis1987
travis1987

I already got the day one version :P

Janpieterzun
Janpieterzun

In other words Sony says. WE WANT THEIR MONEY, NONE FOR YOU!

mkeezay22
mkeezay22

$600 for an X1!, you could put together a decent rig with an entry level card like the 750 ti and have a better experience with games like Titanfall.

This just seams like a way for them to fail in China, Chinese gamers spend most of their gaming money on in game items on F2P games, so MS needs to go after that market not the hardcore gamer crowd, they won't pay those prices.

brunod_f
brunod_f

Join the club, China. We have in Brazil the most expensive PS4 in the world, unfortunately.

customx5
customx5

@BigPrimeNumbers when the price is only $30.00 dollars a year who wouldn't? that's $2.50 each month, people spend more than that at starbucks each day

ooblah
ooblah

@BigPrimeNumbers 

I would totally pay for a Univeral Studios subscription that  gave me access to their entire library.  That sounds awesome ... I'd never leave the house.

Blazen702
Blazen702

You mean the playstation is dead right? Sony ponys are so blind because they have their heads way up Sony's A S S. The X1 in my opinion is above and beyond anything the PS4 has.

lostn
lostn

@thesilverape It's more a competitor to PS Plus than PS Now. PS Now is a streaming service for old gen games. But you get way more games with PS+ than you do with EA Access. 6 new games a month vs whatever EA is offering.. 4 announced titles so far.

automato
automato

@xneonic It would be the smart thing to do. Nintendo would be making more money, if they became a third party publisher. But Nintendo is a very traditional Japanese company, and they stick to their well known business procedures as long as they can endure them. Nintendo is very rich. They could lose money for years and years and still they wouldn't go out of business. Maybe we will see a change of business strategies, when Nintendo has to fight for its survival. But to see that, there would have to be a lot of screw-ups and lot of time to pass by.

thesilverape
thesilverape

@xneonic You can play Mario on the Wii U. Which is "next-gen" or rather current-gen. 

lostn
lostn

@rolla020980 China doesn't have 3.5 billion people.. Not even half that actually.

packtop
packtop

@rolla020980 China is somewhere around 1.4 billions not 3.5...

Still a damn lot though.

thesilverape
thesilverape

@rolla020980 A lot of games are toned down and censored in some regions but left untouched in others. It's not anything new. The Witcher 1 was censored in NA but remained the same everywhere else. Plenty of other games are censored in countries like Australia and Germany, but the uncensored versions are available in NA. Censorship only affects the country with the regulations.

xneonic
xneonic

@rolla020980 you should not worry one bit about that. These companies don't change their culture just for China. Proof is Google. They brought their search engine to China and eventually just withdrew because of all of the government regulations. They're back in China now, but only because they saw a market for their Android OS. These situations are not perfectly parallel, but the bottom line is that you will NOT see edited games as the only options for purchase where you live.

automato
automato

@rolla020980 I expect the publishers to ignore Chinese guidelines and specific habits of playing games in China, because piracy is such a big issue in China so that their legitimate software market won't make enough profit to redirect the attention of the publishers from the western market to the Chinese market. The WiiU is available for quite some time in China and no one cares, because they pirate the sh#t outta that console. 

If the Chinese government would pass copyright laws on software so that the intellectual property of the publishers was protected, the publishers would swarm on China like flies on you know what, and a global change in the ways how to play games and how to present them would be the logical consequence. 

But until then, no one cares about China.

blackace
blackace

@travis1987 Yes, there's no regional lock on the XB1 or the games. Only on the blu-ray movies and tv shows.

blackace
blackace

@Janpieterzun They don't want to lose money from PS+, which I don't think they would anyways as that service is much better then what EA is offering. Same goes with XBL and GWG. Both has 100's and 100's more games then what EA is offeingfor $5 a month/$30 a year. Still, if you are a huge EA fan who loves most of EA's games, this is still a bargain deal, especially since it's not streaming like PSNow (which is a complete ripoff). If EA can get over 50+ games on the service and you have full access to ALL those games for $5 a month via digital download, that's a great deal. Of course we know the real reason EA is going this. To have DRM for all their games. Don't be surprised to see Ubisoft do the same thing. I wonder if EA will offer this service to PC gamers?

lostn
lostn

@mkeezay22 Breaking news.. Ps4 will launch in China for $500. You can guess the rest of the story.

rolla020980
rolla020980

@mkeezay22 

The higher price is due to the massive import tax placed on foreign goods (even those made in China but owned by a foreign company). A decent PC will cost more to build in China that in other countries... assuming you buy the parts through a legitimate retailer. Of course China has a large knockoff market too.

blackace
blackace

@mkeezay22 It China it would cost a lot more then $600. China gamers mostly play PC games anyways. I'm sure there is a market for game consoles, but China & Korea are avid PC gamers.

lostn
lostn

@ooblah @BigPrimeNumbers Yes but no one is offering their entire library. 4 games. Or 4 movies. Would you pay $30 a year for that?

ooblah
ooblah

@poopoohed @watchdogsrules 

Hmm, shocker.  Asians prefer asian made console.  The xbox brand has never seen an official release in the Chinese market either.  Well, it's all they've got for a while, so they'll have to resign themselves to playing Xbox One, or just play PC ... or whatever Chinese consoles they make overthere.

poopoohed
poopoohed

@Blazen702  Yep at 9 million+ consoles sold, the playstation is soooooo dead lol. What were Microsoft's numbers again? Oh yeah, they won't release them because they haven't changed since may lol.

rolla020980
rolla020980

@automato 

That's a very good point and something I didn't consider. Thanks... I feel better now.

rolla020980
rolla020980

@blackace @Janpieterzun 

Correct me if I am wrong here, but PS+ and GwG are free games that costs Sony and MS money to offer to attract more subscribers, right? I am not too familiar with PS+ on the PS4, but would like to understand if this is right. Wouldn't EA Access be more akin to PS Now?

thesilverape
thesilverape

@xneonic If buying a Wii U to play decent games is so hard, just wait for a Wii U emulator and purchase the games to play on your PC. Buying the Wii U is the best option though.

suppaphly42
suppaphly42

@xneonic @thesilverape whats wrong with owning  the best console with the best and most exclusives

blackace
blackace

@brunod_f @mkeezay22 It's crazy. The XB1 probably cost less. The crazy taxes and fees the country applies is outrageous. One of the reasons I could never live in a country like that. No wonder S.A. people are trying to leave for N.A.

rolla020980
rolla020980

@blackace @brunod_f @mkeezay22 


Most of the immigrants are coming from countries with heavy gang violence. I don't think there are nearly as many people coming to the US from Brazil as from countries like Guatemala.