GS News - Nintendo positive about their future; Are CoD and Battlefield over?

Nintendo President Satoru Iwata is staying positive about where Nintendo is headed and says they are not planning to cut jobs, while Avalanche Studios’ Christofer Sundberg has said the industry is in dire need of innovation and Call of Duty and Battlefield could soon be over.

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at129907
at129907

PSH he really thinks EA and Activistion will get off the money train lol

fuzzymutt
fuzzymutt

A BETTER EFFIN CONSOLE COULD BRING NINTENDO BACK!

Kyrylo
Kyrylo

Apparently nintendo cant make it's mind. Week beofre they admit Wii U failed, now they decided that it's not over. Seriously make your mind. This becomes pathetic.  

Northuz
Northuz

I've been having some serious loading issues with gamespot of late, to the point where I leave the site unloaded about 2/3 of the times I come here. This time too it looks like I won't watch the news and writing this is choppy and frustrating. You clearly got some gremlins in the system.

danusty
danusty

dear god! why does she have to sound like every other news reporter out there? it's as if they all went to the same exact school and had the same exact professor who then instructed them in the ways of sounding ridiculous and totally not normal.

GreekTheGeek
GreekTheGeek

I for one would welcome Nintendo's continuation in the console wars as they have consistently put out outstanding titles that are a bit different and corky.

I'd like to see some RPGs may be a dragon quest sequel ? Earthbound 3D reworking of older games or new sequel?

Proper 3d Pokemon adventuring and the abomination that were coliseum

Star fox space sequel with adventuring on different planets too

Metroid sequel to the prime games

F zero reworked and rebooted sequel

Professor Layton puzzle mayhem would work wonders on the tablet

Also ace attorney is perfectly suited for a re release collection on wii u or a sequel as the investigation would be brilliant with the tablet and the visuals much sharper

Animal crossing has always been a satisfying sim game so a sequel would be most welcome and may be advance wars sequel too

Wouldn't rule out

luigis mansion 3

Wario 3D land

Kid ikarus

And with new Zelda fire emblem and donkey kong country the wii u would never gather dust even when my ps 4 arrived

Now what can we do to make Nintendo start producing some of these games ?

Shangelus67
Shangelus67

Don't agree at all that COD and BF are over. Not sure what they can keep adding that will keep people interested but each new game will always look better and people will buy them. 

I also think that right now someone somewhere is working on a COD Dog game. It has to happen

Nev3rtime
Nev3rtime

I like my wii u a lot. I'm someone who skipped the wii, though I have no issue with motion control, I was just more of a pc gamer. The controller is a quality gamepad with a touch screen that does add to the gameplay in many games, even the ports. I think many critics are people who haven't played one outside a shop. It has got a good selection of games now. It lacks that big name game that'll attract sales (until Mario 3d) but it has some great stuff that's worth playing.

It had a better first year lineup than the 3ds. I had a 3ds at launch and it gathered dust for a year, my wii u has had regular use since I got it. 

I'm going to predict the wii u will sell well this xmas. People are starting to become aware of it now and 3d Mario's coming out.

'Wii U selling THIS Xmas' sounds like a big prediction... Well you heard it here first... you can call me a deluded Nintendo fanboy if I'm wrong. :P

QuadDamage85
QuadDamage85

Nintendo has a very interesting outlook of their future in regards to non-portable consoles.  While I do believe that the DS will keep the company afloat for quite a long time, they just aren't cutting it when it comes to living room entertainment.

If Nintendo wishes to actually compete, they need to start focusing more on hardcore gamers, and less on casuals.  Casual gamers are less likely to go out and upgrade their consoles once something new and improved has come out, since they are likely satisfied with their current form of entertainment.

As for Nintendo's games, if they released a Metroid, Super Smash Bros, Zelda (an original, not a remake), and a Mario Kart I do believe the console would have been a success.  I certainly would have broken down and purchased one immediately if they released these titles.  However, there is simply no titles out there right now that are compelling enough to get me to make the purchase, even if the above titles are to be released in the future.

Nintendo also needs to get away from their goofy controller and go back to the classic controller that has been in use since the creation of consoles.  While I appreciate Nintendo trying to be innovative, there is a point where inconvenience outweighs creativity.  The pad is both distracting, and unnecessary and I hope that for the titles mentioned above will not be something that is required to use, especially Metroid.

JoshuaK1980
JoshuaK1980

Sorry if I say anything someone may have already said. Just weighing in with my opinion on the topic.

I feel as though Nintendo is never in any real danger. Nintendo seems to serve as a company that can pacify a younger demographic. They most certainly did for me back in the 80's and even now I have no problem with letting my children play the titles they release. They also seem to explore new innovations when it comes to how games are played. Though I don't feel as all the credit goes to them for motion based gaming, they did spend a lot of effort to bring it to living rooms through the Wii. The Wii U, to me seems to be no more then a technical upgrade to compete with other consoles but not meant as a replacement for other game consoles.

 With that said, I most certainly would like to see Starfox resurface, though I doubt it would be enough to make huge waves with gamers. Metroid is another great title that I think could be a huge hit, if given the right direction. Possibly create a Metroid game that appeals to an older age group.

Let's just say this, though I don't own a Wii U yet. I will be purchasing a Wii U, way before I spend money on an Xbox One. Sorry Microsoft, you will just have to wait. 

cboye18
cboye18

Nowadays we lack games such as Ratchet and Clank, Sly cooper, Jak and Daxter, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Beyond Good and Evil,  SW Battlefront, SOCOM, Syphon Filter, Ape Escape etc.

There are so many past games that are oozing with creative design and innovation, yet they are left untouched. That's the modern gaming industry for you.... 

cboye18
cboye18

Destroy the military FPS genre; bring them back after 2 gaming era...

templesweeper
templesweeper

I think Nintendo will be fine once they actually release their system-selling games like Mario Kart and Super Smash Bros.  Once those come out, just watch the sales of the Wii U skyrocket.  I don't know anyone who owns a Wii, has kids, and doesn't own Mario Kart.  The Wii U doesn't really have a must-own game out yet.  But they are coming in the next six months or so.

Merkasaw
Merkasaw

I really think Nintendo needs to be brave and stop rehashing the same old franchises over and over. Sure, Mario, Zelda and Pokemon are great... but they can't keep relying on those brands for ever. Right? I genuinely don't think they're going to have a proper come-back without some fresh, original and exciting new characters and stories.

Also, bummer that the competition is US-only. :(

jonny_dutch
jonny_dutch

When Monolith Soft release their upcoming WiiU game, I will be buying the console, Nintendo had a monopoly on decent JRPGs last gen, and from what we've seen, will do again with the WiiU. 

The upcoming Donkey Kong and Mario games look gorgeous, and Zelda will be probably be fantastic. Dormant Nintendo franchises like Metroid and Star Fox would garner thousands of nostalgic buys.

 Last of Us is so overrated, that stealth was fucking disastrous, and the story was decent by my standards, good for a 2013 game, nothing special in the long run. God in a console my ass.

Marc Mattaliano
Marc Mattaliano

Careful now...being that cynical AND intelligent could get you in trouble, my friend. You could crack the code of THE WORLD!! You're seeing through the cloud of smog at the truth underneath!! Do I have time for one more? You're reading between the lines of binary that...screw it, I'm done. Don't like girls, don't watch, easy. :-D

Capp2006
Capp2006

Okay I want to ramble.

Well, I finally bought a Wii U, but it took quite a few things to make it even remotely interesting.

1- I got it for 130$ (open box white 8gb model...very nice)

2- I had an AC-powered 500gb hard drive lying around

3- I bought the nintendo extra large battery (~40$, effectively doubles the gamepad's battery life)

Skip this part if you feel like, I just like rambling:

My main gripe with the system is that you can buy a ps3 for 200$ now (500gb model, I don't include the xbox because I've owned one since 2007 and it's clearly an inferior device - not in the gaming sense, but in that it has no blu-ray player and you need to have Gold just to get access to Netflix, not to mention that the 360's media streaming is so much worse), which has a far greater library of games that you can play NOW, and not in 2014-2016.   

This same criticism, however, applies also to the ps4 and xb1 which really only will seem like graphical upgrades for the current stock of games.  Try not to roll your eyes, but I own a pretty good computer (modestly overclocked i5-3570k and gtx 670) that I have hooked via a 25' HDMI cable into my TV, and merely making a game prettier is not worth a 500$ console purchase.  What I mean to say is that games like GTA V took year and hundreds of millions of dollars to make, and just because it's a new console won't magically make the same investment turn into a more compelling gameplay experience (map size, AI, player agency, etc.), nor make the publisher's making them more efficient.

There's no killer app/game for the Wii U, and though I can't tell you which game I'd like to see (although I'm a sucker for the usual suspects Metroid and Zelda), the real issue is that any game that can demonstrate an awesome application for the tablet gamepad will be the real decider.  A good parallel would be the Oculus Rift, which I find to be the only TRUE "next-gen" gaming peripheral, as it's the only device that will open new worlds for gaming.  The ps4/xb1 are just an iphone 5s to an iphone 4s.

My point:

At this point it would be almost impossible to make the Wii U a success beyond a modest one...its design paradigm is shaky to begin with (although it is criminally underrated, it's a lovely device with decent hardware and off TV-play is wonderful in a crowded house).  It relies on jarring you out of your gaming experience on the screen to glance at a smaller one in your hands, tiring your eyes out faster and dulling your sense of immersion (human beings like focusing on one thing at a time).  It's priced too highly to not offer anything compelling over a 360 or ps3.

Zombie U is a rocky starting point but I'd like to see them come up with even more ideas on how to use the gamepad (by design, it must be INTEGRAL to the experience to make the Wii U compelling over any other system, including the Wii).  Maybe even a Myst-like game where you can use your gamepad as an interactive note-taking book (just shooting out ideas here), or a metroid game where your gamepad can be used to cycle in real time to your ship (that you can remote control) or in COD games you can view your drones to survey the area (controlling with you stylus, so that you're still free to move around).


Berkut4796
Berkut4796

My hypothetical game:

A new metroid game following the metroid prime model, with the touch screen on the controller being used as your 'suit status report' settings, as well as information display for scanned enemies. In a twist away from the standard metroid prime theme, the game would have a captivating story with realistic and relatable characters.

evil13killer
evil13killer

Nintendo is satisfied working in the kids zone

crazkanuk
crazkanuk

Are BF and COD over? We can only speculate until they are done counting their massive piles of money. 

Verenti
Verenti

It's not a hyperbole Jess; it's a metaphor (followed by a simile). A hyperbole would have to be overstating something in the terms in which it was expressed. As a metaphor changes any real comparison for colourful imagery in hopes of a clearer explanation, you can't make a hyperbole out of "eating the industry alive" or "god in a console" because these are binary terms. To nibble the industry would still be a form of ingestion, but at a slower pace. As for God, you can't overstate or understate the concept of God; something is divine or its not.

So while you might not agree with his metaphor (or simile), they cannot really be called hyperbolic.

Sorry for writing this.

Onioki
Onioki

Don't know the first thing about this sundberg guy...

But I agree with everything he's said that was highlighted here.

Mickeyminime
Mickeyminime

Nintendo can only crawl back....by going back in the past before the PS1 and PS2 came out....

digishah
digishah

Monster Hunter 4 

Final Fantasy VI 3D Remake 

Bravely Default

Zelda A Link Between Worlds

Nintendo makes their 3DS platform way more compelling than the Wii U don't they.

TigusVidiks
TigusVidiks

CoD and Battlefield over?!
In the day pigs start to fly and chicken grow teeth

RS13
RS13

Honestly, I can't think of *any* game that nintendo could realistically make that would bring me back.  I don't say this because I'm a nintendo hater, but they don't have any franchises or in-the-pipeline exclusives that would get me to buy a nintendo console.  Personally, I'd need to see some really good new IPs.  (Unless nintendo's gonna start stealing existing franchises from Playstation, Xbox and PC.)

silverfox__12
silverfox__12

This saying is getting way to overused by gaming journalists. Now it is even more annoying that it is being miss quoted. "The house that Nintendo built" is incorrect. Nintendo is the house. The proper saying is "The house that [Mario, Link, etc.] built." The idea is that they built up the company or "house."  It is one thing to be unoriginal and use a saying that has been overplayed on almost every other major gaming news site, but come on. At least do it right. Its a shame cause Jess is one of my favorite video journalists. 

SuperDutchy
SuperDutchy

Earthbound Wii U (or whatever they want to call it) and an open world (or shared world) Pokemon game similar to how Destiny has been described where you can encounter other players.  Also Super Mario 64 redone with Wii U graphics...like completely redone, not just an HD remake. 


Henninger
Henninger

This might seem like a long shot but I feel Nintendo needs to release another 2D Metroid with amazing graphics. A lot of ppl hate on Other M complaining about Samus. Samus was a little girl so I understand why they did what they did. The only complaint I had with the game is that it was to easy. I seriously don't think I died @ all playing that game. If they made a new Metroid along the lines of Super Metroid, I think that would get sales rolling. Or maybe even another FPS Metroid like the Prime series. I loved the Prime series (Metroid Prime 2 was the worst but not that bad) & would like to see what they could do with the extra screen in a FPS Metroid game. How bout they make another River City Ransom. One of the best games on NES imo. Never played Earthbound but wouldn't that be a good idea for another one of those since it is a beloved game? Personally I want another Eternal Darkness but who knows whats going on with the spiritual successor now. I know this won't happen but another Conker's game would be great. Conker's Bad Fur Day was the shit!!! What about the old Turok games on the N64? I know a couple of ppl who want those remade. How about giving Toad a run @ a game. Luigi, Princess Peach, & Wario have had their own games. Y not Toad? How about Sega & Nintendo team up & make a Mario & Sonic game where they actually go save something together? Just some food for thought.

Teufelhund84
Teufelhund84

What Nintendo needs to do in 2014 is focus on two or three BIG games instead of dropping a load of above average games on us like they have been lately.  Wii U owners experienced a video game drought early on in the year, but since August Nintendo has been dishing out at least one pretty good game per month (in addition to the many smaller titles they've been releasing alongside). In doing so they have been killing their third party support!  Since August I've had to choose between purchasing a Nintendo exclusive over a great third party game and usually the exclusive wins out.

zyxahn
zyxahn

Jess your killing me.  You get hotter with every news video.

soulcold
soulcold

Spoke my mind.. But why less profound er profane language

greater_bird
greater_bird

@GreekTheGeek I don't disagree with any of your suggestions, but I do find them amusing given that the beginning of the newscast was all about lack of innovation supposedly destroying the industry... ^_^

GreekTheGeek
GreekTheGeek

What we probably see though is new mario golf new mario party new mario tennis which while good wouldn't make the console a must have to any hardcore gamer

Kyrylo
Kyrylo

@jonny_dutch monopoly on good JRPGs? I think outside of Xenoblade and maybe Last story, wii cant boast as single decent JRPG.

inspectercoley
inspectercoley

@Verenti Example of Hyperbole please. "God in a console" is a hyperbole no?
 While it is binary, it is exaggerated form of being superhuman.

SuperDutchy
SuperDutchy

@jalfrezy  Super Mario 64 is a platforming game, you're thinking of Super Mario Kart 64. Also, the version coming out for Wii U is called Mario Kart 8.