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taylorzgotem
taylorzgotem

Its simple..casual gamers play games just to pass time..hardcore gamers play the game count down till the dlc or release happens finds any news or info relating to that game or console, can hold a decent argument about any topic, and can do well in the game they are playing

The1stFishBone
The1stFishBone

Casual gamers play a limited range of games, aren't very good at them, and don't pay attention to gaming news.

Cristhian_Cobas
Cristhian_Cobas

Dog's dying... period. They need to cause an impact on the player. Killing off characters is out of the questions, since it doesn't really have the same impact Aerith in FF VII caused back in 1997... but kill a companion mascot... and BOOM instant press (and marketing stunt as well)

Unless they go for the cheesy 80's action movie script. Then the dog's probably gonna "die" in a heroic death, only to show up later, passing through hell and coming back to the owner... 


As for the "hardcore" definition of gamer: I believe that someone that doesn't make any differences between platforms, but enjoys games from all origins (billion dollar franchises or indie) in all of them, would be considered a hardcore gamer...

Maverick6585
Maverick6585

Danny O'Dwyer defined the classes of gamers in one of his episodes of The Point (forget which one). Casual gamer is someone who only plays every now and then, and doesn't put a whole lot of money into games. Softcore gamers are those who pick up the big AAA titles of the year, (CoD, Madden, FIFA, AC, etc.), but doesn't really take an active role in the industry or community. Hardcore gamers are people who enjoys all different types of games, and are constantly diversifying their library and playstyles. They usually take a more active role in the community, and have much more respect for the actual creation of games and the industry as a whole.

I think most CoD gamers are casual and softcore, though every now and then you'll find a gamer with completely different games in their library, including AAAs like CoD, indies like Fez, and horror games like Amnesia.

ggregd
ggregd

I play what I like.  I don't care if I'm "hardcore."

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

- Oh, that's it! Pre-order cancelled!!
Wait, what am I saying, as if I'd buy another CoD game! Buying CoD4 was the first and last time I'd make that mistake.

- I can sympathise with games beign delayed if they aren't ready, and how hard games development actually is (I'm an aspiring games dev myself). However, they really do need to learn a bit about project management. Decisions like that need to be made before they start making the game. You really don't want to be making major changes during development - it should all be desided during the planning/concepting phase. Especially choosing which console to develop the game for.

- So not interested in GTA online. GTAV singleplayer - hell yes! Online multiplayer with a bunch of random strangers - hell no!

- CoD is developed for the casual market and the success of the game in majorly thanks to that casual market. Hardcore gamers are not the target audience and probably stay clear of the series anyway. Being a CoD player doesn't make you a casual gamer, but only playing CoD and nothing else means you're more likely to be on the softcore/casual side of things. Pretty sure Danny covered the differences between casual / softcore / hardcore players.

- Titanfall is practically CoD with robots. Meh.


chechak7
chechak7

if ur waring dog tag iam gana stab my self ....ADD ME in battlelog :chechak7

I LOVE YOU 

:D

StaticPenguin
StaticPenguin

The dog will be like Aggro from SotC. We're going to think he makes a heroic sacrifice to help the main character reach his main goal, then he's going to come hobbling out of some wreckage looking like a bad ass.

Aphyosemion
Aphyosemion

Everyone has their own definition of hardcore player and it is usually one that includes themselves, while excluding as many others as possible.  You aren't hardcore!  Only I am hardcore!!  RAWWRR!!

xeis-net
xeis-net

anyone who plays games that require skill rather than time is a Hardcore gamer. 

93ChevyNut
93ChevyNut

I would describe a hardcore gamer as one who really delves deep into the heart of the games he/she plays and identifies the artistic value in them.  Just like there are people that are "movie fanatics".  They don't just watch a movie, they take notice of acting, lighting, sound, music, pacing, cinematography, etc.

ray1man2hot
ray1man2hot

a hardcore gamer is someone who spends most of their time when they arent working/in class playing games tv and movies are secondary

ffragale1
ffragale1

Being a hardcore gamer means:

Dedicating most of you time for your passion (gaming).

Researcing all there is to know about the games tha you like and the industry.

Be capable of critical thinking and quick judgements to maximise you gaming experience.

But most important of all you have to do is love gaming.

pezzott1
pezzott1

Titles for 2014??? hmm... Star Citizen, Destiny & The Division!

kiffard
kiffard

I'm surprised there's enough campaign players to make the CoD dog a story... and I I'm impressed that there are enough people that care about the single player story.  I wonder how many people that consider themselves hardcore play the single player story.  That may be one definition -- if its all about stats and equipment, does that make you a hardcore player?  I think that's a part of it, but it's also time invested.

I have an xbox 360 but the most I've played multiplayer shooters was to try out the ME3 multiplayer.  I'm terrible at them, especially on a console.  I'm definitely more at home with a keyboard and mouse, but it's Destiny and not Titanfall that will get me to spend more multiplayer FPS time on my xbox in 2014.

xtyzx
xtyzx

Definition of a hard-core gamer: A gamer which considers replacing oxygen with their gaming console ! (E.g. doesn't stop playing it)

IanNottinghamX
IanNottinghamX

Jess Ubisoft is pronounced  OOBI-Soft not YOU-Bisoft.    And what I think people are trying to define when they say "Hardcore" Gamer is someone who has a defined interest in the WHOLE sphere of the gaming world and not just 1 or 2 things in it. I consider myself a hardcore gamer because I usually purchase multiple consoles and play on PC. Where as someone who just plays on Xbox 360 and JUST plays COD I wouldnt consider them a hardcore gamer because they only have interest in 1 or 2 games and 1 system and thats it.

Krauklis
Krauklis

OMG a GS staff member who is more of a PC gamer what magic is this? 

CalamityKait
CalamityKait

I would think "hardcore" would describe how one plays games rather than how many games one plays.  

When I hear hardcore, I think of someone who always plays on the hardest difficulty, tries to complete all in-game challenges, get 100% completion, get all achievements, min-maxes, analyzes underlying systems to achieve maximum efficiency, and when everything that can be done with a game has been done, replays it for speed runs or with self-imposed limitations.

A casual gamer plays on whatever difficulty level produces the right challenge or might play on casual/easy because they're more interested in the story,  isn't concerned with collectibles, achievements, or clearing everything, ignores side quests unless they seem interesting, and isn't bothered if a game goes unfinished.

Thus, someone who buys COD or Gears of War and plays hundreds of hours in multiplayer matches, honing strategies and memorizing maps is someone I would say is a hardcore COD or Gears of War player.  Someone who isn't satisfied with anything less than capturing every Pokemon in existence and knows the strengths and weaknesses of every possible Pokemon is a hardcore Pokemon player.

Thus, I'd say hard core and casual are game specific descriptors.  A person might be a hard-core COD player and at the same time be content to pass a few minutes with a $.99 game on their phone when they have a few minutes to pass.

Calling someone a "hard core gamer" in regard to games in general for me is like saying someone is a "hard core TV fan" rather than a Trekkie or a Whovian.  The term is meaningless unless attached to a specific property.

malificus1
malificus1

I honestly don't mind when a game is delayed because it's always for a good reason. I would much rather buy a finished product than an unpolished one where they release patch after patch.

I'll be picking up Titanfall for the PC. Looks panda awesome.


MagnusLensher
MagnusLensher

Do Australians really say "bloody" or are you just trying to throw us foreigners?

marcosrtc
marcosrtc

This gamespot newscast is a bit too serious. 

 This girl needs to lighten up...

Hagan
Hagan

I want to know the damn system reqs for Titanfall on PC

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

I guess the definition of a hardcore gamer is someone who buy an exorbident amount of games, rarely finishes or gets much value out of any of them, and belongs in a video game rehab program.  While the "casual" gamer buys one (Call of Duty) or very few game, gets lots of playtime and value out it.

deafwing
deafwing

There's a new trailer for BF4 - Irish beats the dog poo out of Riley :D 

Unraed
Unraed

I think a hard-core gamer is simply someone who considers gaming a primary interest.  That said, I would expect at least 12 hour average per week spent gaming from a hard-core gamer.

blackciti
blackciti

I'm a casual gamer. I don't mind. I like games but I am 29 and it gets a little tiring after a while. Having a girl, job, my own crib and a car payment tends to take away from gaming. Especially my girl hehe. But I don't mind at all. Its all part of growing up. No disrespect to those hardcore gamers though. There is nothing wrong (in my opinion) with playing games all day.

avatarcj
avatarcj

A hard-core gamer is a person that takes it like a b$#ch and still manages to win or to lose with dignity .

mbloof
mbloof

IMHO: A "hard core" gamer is someone who invests more time per day/week/month playing games then ANYTHING else in their life.  They employ more than 1 stationary and/or mobile platforms and regularly play more than three types of games.

spartanx169x
spartanx169x

When I first saw Titanfall I thought thats going to be awesome. But now, after thinking about it  the way they designed the mechs is stupid to some degree. Why build them human like? That just doesn't make sense to me, I always like Mechwarrior, but I guess they wanted to draw more interest by making them different. Secondly, it does really look like COD with jumpjets and mechs. will have to see what game types it will offer before buying. , might want till it hits $40 before buying. 

93ChevyNut
93ChevyNut

@blobby-blobby I really don't think she needs you to.  Would you appreciate it if someone pointed out every imperfection you have?

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@kiffard  

What I'm surprised at is how much they advertise the singleplayer campaign for these games (CoD, Battlefield, etc). People don't buy these games for the singleplayer. People who want a great singleplayer game will look elsewhere.

 

ray1man2hot
ray1man2hot

both titanfall and destiny have online campaigns only

tempertress
tempertress moderator staff

@IanNottinghamX I heard a Ubisoft employee saying it is pronounced YOU-besoft because it is derived from the word ubiquitous.

So I go with that.

Juan1988
Juan1988

@CalamityKait holy shit, this was spot on......

"mom, dad, I have something to tell you..... I am pretty much a casual gamer :/

It's not your fault, you are still my parents and I still love videogames and will play loads of them" lol

ForceSkin
ForceSkin

@CalamityKait I would mostly agree, especially with the idea of someone being a hardcore COD player or Pokemon player but not necessarily overall hardcore gamer. However I don't think achievement hunting or even multiple playthroughs are prerequisites of being a hardcore gamer. I consider myself a hardcore gamer because of the amount of time I spend across multiple platforms and genres however I do not hunt achievements and find it hard to play a game again, especially if it is choice-based (I had a character that I carried from ME1 - 3 and to me, Shepherd is an evil space bitch and I when I see the male Shepherd I think of the character in the Manslayer Machinima Gamer Poop). 

moonboots89
moonboots89

@CalamityKait Interesting point. I think a lot of what you write also describes an enthusiastic gamer though. For example, as per your definition I behave as a hardcore gamer in games that I love and as a casual gamer in games that I'm not so interested in.

Scorpion1813
Scorpion1813

@MagnusLensher

They don't say "bloody". They say "Blah-dy"

They can't pronounce O's just like Asian's can't pronounce L's, and the America's forget that the letter U exists. And where I'm from (Yorkshire), we've developed a knack for replacing half or all of a word with apostrophes.

moonboots89
moonboots89

@marcosrtc She's actually being very light hearted. It's just that she does it in a dry/sarcastic way. That's very common in countries like Australia/Britain etc but I can understand that it might seem serious to those who aren't used to it.

Diegoctba
Diegoctba

@marcosrtc 

No, she is perfect. You don't change the winning team, look at Barcelona, for example.

M3o5nster
M3o5nster

@blackciti casual gamer =/= growing up, it just means you have a different level of dedication to the hobby than others. I know guys with all those things you mentioned plus kids, and they still find time to dedicate to their favorite hobby.