GS News - Anonymous threatens Zynga
The hacker group gives a November 5th deadline to stop Zynga layoffs, or threatens to release confidential company files and games.
by Guy Cocker on
Anonymous as a group is just a bunch of bullies with nothing productive to do with their time. They pretend to have noble agendas but all they're doing is being anti-corporation for the sake of it.
i hope zynga dies off
its games are an insult to all games worldwide...
in fact they arent even games... maybe "lame" is a better word for those titles
Oh Zynga! What have you done this time, you naughty dog? I know, let's go read some documents! ;)
(Haven't seen Seb Ford in a while. 'tis good to see him again. =)
Fucking advertisements of fucking Starcraft is driving me to fucking madness! FUCK PRO GAMING! show some new ads!
P.S. sorry for the swearing, just had to get that out on the web before I decided to punch a wall and acquire a soon-to-be hospital bill...
This is just stupid! It is up to the company if they want to lay off people, esp when they aren't doing well. In my opinion, Anonymous should stick to more serious situations...not fucking FARMVILLE!!!
So.... Anonymous wants them to stop laying off people and if they don't then they will release all of zynga's stuff for free thus destroying the company anyway and also all those jobs? And if Zynga complies it might go under because they can't pay their workforce hence the layoffs. Thus destroying everyone who works for zyngas jobs. Looks like a lose lose situation to me. Anonymous needs to step back and look at a remedy that doesn't end up with everyone losing their jobs anyways.
I saw the Guy Fawkes mask and wanted to point out that this action is not the same as the November 5th plot or any other act to overthrow despotism. The central tenet of any totalitarian system is the curtailing of freedom. Those being oppressed can only choose between oppression or serious harm, perhaps death, (or revolt), which is really no choice at all. However unsavory Zynga's actions may be, they are not in the position to force their will on anyone. As all employment relationships are bilateral, Zynga is simply exercising its right to change its participation in these relationships; this is very different from any unilateral government action that harms its citizens. To misuse the spirit of Guy Fawkes is to invite lashbacks that will cast a shadow on all future actions of this sort, even ones that may otherwise be viewed favorably by most people.
It's also unfair to associate Anonymous's actions with terrorism. Regardless of their intentions, both Guy Fawkes and V were clearly domestic terrorists under the legal code of their societies. Anonymous has only issued a threat, which by itself can hardly be considered an act of terrorism. This is important because in many nations, even those of the West, terrorists are now frequently dealt with through extrajudicial means. A group of skilled hackers may not be too concerned about FBI's cyber crimes unit, but I don't think anyone anywhere can take lightly the NSA or the CIA's signal intelligence division.
I hate Zynga. A lot. But I believe in capitalism and if rogue hackers are going to be the ones deciding whether a company can succeed or not than the whole idea has failed. I think Zynga should go out of business, but because they are a bad company, not because some guys decided to play God.
It's already the 5th in November again and I guess Anonymous had to do something meaningful, so why not Zynga?
Zynga sure deserve what they will get. only for exploiting low-life people not to mention the rest.
Like the Japanese government in a Godzilla movie, I hope these two monsters kill each other, but I know that's probably not going to happen.
As far as I'm concerned Anonymous and Zynga had a score to settle since some time ago, they just decided to make this their excuse to "attack" them. Can't tell what's going to happen with Anonymous ridiculous claims to the market.
Anonymous has a bad history of being schizophrenic when it comes to what they target. They were part of the smear campaign against Jessi Slaughter, but went out and defended Amanda Todd. They said nothing about the near-literal sweat shop working conditions at Team Bondi (or any other game company that has laid people off), but are attacking Zynga because the company is starting to sink and has no choice but to lay off staff. Their total stock is worth LESS then their total assets (property, patents, trademarks, ect.)
This isn't the normal hire/contract and then fire routine the industry has seen in the last three years. Zynga will go out of business. And maybe even take Facebook with them.
And as for their assertion that Zynga's folding would cause the game industry to collapse in the states... That's completely asinine and fully illogical. The games industry is not being supported by Zynga. It's the other way around. There's still EA, Activision, THQ, Disney Interactive, WB Games, Gearbox, 2K, Take-two, Rockstar, the list goes on.
People against Anonymous are either for or in acceptance of the corruption of the system we live in. When millions of people in tents protesting don't get any thing done what else is there to do but resort to either cyber hacking or some type of violence? People either love them or hate them but these people put their necks on the line for others. They don't hide behind masks they hide behind anonymity! You don't have to cheer for them but to bash them shows the state we are in and the sign of our ignorant times.
@spacecowbeefeat I was thinking the same thing when watching this video lol
@rayzter1 Zynga won't even be close to going under. You have no clue what you are talking about. Zynga is laying people off to maximize profits. So what if you have to screw over a few hundred families and bring them hardship? As long as the people at the top get their big 6-7 figure bonuses. That's what's important.
@rayzter1 Yeah this makes sense, minus the fact that Zynga has been raking in extreme amounts of money for games that take little to no time to create and is trying to outsource the jobs to make even more. They don't have trouble paying their employers or they wouldn't be making a profit.... Anonymous knows this and to think they are doing this without forethought regarding repercussions is a little retarded lol
@spoonybard-hahs They're not schizophrenic, they're just run by a bunch of teenagers with no concept of the real world. That they'd even target Zynga on such asinine accusations makes them look like children egging grampa's door.
@Katurax I'll bash them all I want. They're sophomoric children who try to force others into line with the stale socialist ideology they passively absorbed from their morally bankrupt environment, and they haven't done a damn thing to help anybody - certainly not nearly as much as the supposedly evil companies they target, which actually EMPLOY people while anon tries to take them down. Same thing goes for the morons in tents you mentioned.
@Katurax I'm not really for or against them, as I've said before in other posts, I love them in theory. I understand and applaud them for trying to fight back against a broken system, but their methods seem almost harmful to their cause. I understand why they remain anonymous, but as already stated, anyone can be a member of Anon. I've not seen any indication that they can even police themselves, and if they can't do that, what gives them the right to police anything else? The road to hell is paved with good intentions and Anonymous may have the greatest intentions, but it's a bit too easy to turn and use that kind of power and intent for selfish and bad things. I for one don't like a lot of things in this country and I'd change a lot of those things given the power, but I realize it's not my right to change those things because of my single opinion.
@Katurax Anonymous is the type of group that will burn down a whole village just to get at one person. You sure you want to be championing these people?
4 chan's the worst thing to happen to the internet, you're an idiot
@Katurax I'm not against them. I just find it hard to believe Zynga's a company worth worrying about. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought they were on the way down, anyhow.
@Katurax Real men don't hide behind anything.
@nathangray @spoonybard-hahs The handful of members that were arrested a few months ago were 28 to 35 years in age. But the problem with Anonymous is that it is anonymous. You and I both do not know who is Anonymous, how old they are, what their gender is, and where they are from. At times, they are misguided (such as with Zynga) at others, they are inspired (such as the Wall Street protests).
In short, don't assume. You do not know these people personally.
Dude how old are you... damn stupid ppl
@Gr3gSolidus Real men go to prison then? I'm sure you are a real man doing very big things for this world!
To rebuttal “consequences” comment. Have you ever done something without thinking about the repercussions? I bet you have. Everything has a consequence. Some good some bad. Even the government you live in has. Does it make it right all the time? Of course not but, if you just stand there and do nothing. Then nothing changes.
Have you even tried to say anything to rebuttal my claim? What you have done for this world besides troll the internet? Yes I do support them even with the bad apples. They stand for a lot as far as sticking up for our right. How do you know what’s going on with Zynga? Do you work for them? Are you there corporate office? Who said they where the internet police? If anyone is being an internet policeman it is you. You seem to think you can voice your opinion without someone not agreeing with you. They stick up for our rights to express ourselves on the internet like your opinion here. Did it ever occur to you that Anon might have a member or 2 that work for Zynga? How can you blame Anon for Sony’s failure to have a secure network? If anything it helped them. Sony took a dive because of there arrogance about not being unhackable. Nothing got stolen to it’s far from an issue. The fact that Sony did not inform there customers was a major issue. That’s beside the point. The issue is you clearly don’t know what Anon’s intentions are nor know who they are yet your passing judgment based on a few bad apples.
@sammoth @Katurax I love how you make all these assumptions about my life, as if I'm content with everything or that I don't know what's going on in the world. Stop it. Don't make claims about me when you know nothing about me. It's not a good look for you.
The very fact that ANYONE can be Anonymous itself is a problem. It's like letting any random person on the street become a police officer without any sort of background check. Would you feel safe in your neighbourhood knowing that? It's not enough to have good intentions; have you ever heard of the phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions?" I have to stress that they do not think of the consequences of their actions, something that you seem to ignore in my responses to you, among other things. It must be easy for you to support Anonymous when you're not their target, directly or otherwise. I've never been targeted by them myself, but at least I can see them for what they are. They don't act out of the goodness of their hearts, and they don't think about what they're doing and who it affects. You can forget about good intentions.
If they follow through on their threat, does this mean that they'll target any company that decides to layoff their workforce? Do they realize that Zynga is hurting right now? Do they know how business works? Where was Anonymous during that whole EA Spouse incident? Why are they the Internet police?
You’re calling your opinion based on a few acts of members of Anon. The problem with Anon is anyone can be Anon. There are a few bad apples everywhere we look. Trust me they have done a lot more than you and if you think otherwise you better do your homework. So you are you accepting that your government/media clouds your own views of what is really going on in the world are ok? Hey I guess as long as you have your car, job, stuff and house to put all that stuff in that’s all that matters in the world. You seem to think that because of a few bad apples those there intentions aren’t good. Think what you may but, as long as you live in your secure life nothing else matters.
@sammoth @Katurax Look at Anonymous' past actions and tell me how my statement is false. When they took down Sony's network, they did more than hurt Sony. The major problem I have with the group is that they don't think about the consequences of their actions.
I have no problems with standing up for your rights for yourself or others. But Anonymous' actions are misguided, and you're naive if you think they are some righteous guardians. You're telling me that you would be OK with Anonymous if your own livelihood suffered as a result of their actions?
They have done a lot more than you. There are a few bad apples jus like any other organization. Apparently you have no idea what Anon has done. Like you you hide behind a keyboard using a keyboard to voice your opnion of them on this website. Hardly playing GOD. Hey I guess as long as you have your stuff and entertainment for the rest of your life while the rest of the world goes to crap that's ok.
@de_graph @vihazur I agree. The problem with Anonymous is they really arnt a group. Any one can can be Anonymous. So stupid people are going to do stupid things under the name and people log them all together. For all we know this could just be one disgruntled employee of zynga. I dont' see much reason for this but tomorrow im sure it will only be yesterdays news.
@avengerb @tptimmy What ever they don't like or think is right they attack it. And Anonymous is not everybody. That's there way to hide, "Anonymous could be all of us". BULL! I like the idea of "anonymous" but what happens when one anonymous member is for Democrats and one is for Republicans? Its unorganized fighting! You want to make a change in the world stop leaving comments on this website and go protest at your next town hall to fix the issues in our neighborhood.
Hmm..and who is anonymous?
It is you! you idiot ... they are not telling anyone anything ... All they are sayin is " WAKE UP"