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coldfusion25
coldfusion25

They're making their own game, not whining that others should make them.

Wot's the problem?

Hells_rebelion
Hells_rebelion

Don't understand peoples panties being in a wad over religion in a game??  Just like any other game you don't like, don't play it!  Is it really that hard?

ffragale1
ffragale1

i dont think ive ever hollucinated but i defenetly had dreams about games especially if i played for a week straight lol :)

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

fuck, this holidays I've been playing a lil too much killzone and last Monday a teammate started to shoot everyone (friends and foes) so, next round everyone (friends AND foes) were hunting the guy and sadly he stood his ground and actually was screwing us a lot.

last night I waked up feeling guilty for shooting a guy for being a bad teammate.

I mean actually feeling guilty, and nervous that someone may know.

but that was a dream, it doesn't count as hallucination, right?

*gets back to his camping corner inside the bathroom and reloads his imaginary sniper rifle*

"...ill kill he bastard when I see him.... "

ON THE GAME, CIA GUYS. AND THIS IS A JOKE. THANKS.

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

I don't mind a religious message in a game or movie provided it is delivered well.  Make me care about the characters, and I can start to care about what they care about (Book of Eli is one of my favorite examples).  The delivery on this one looks (understatement coming) sub par though, so I'll give it a pass in favor of reading the real thing.

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

Well, I have started to notice "frame rates" in real life.  That is, I notice a difference between perceived smoothness of real life vs smoothness of video game visuals, and I think I figured out why: on a screen, everything is in focus at a pretty constant focal length, but in real life, your eyes are focused on a vary narrow field of view.

I don't think that's what they were talking about though.

wales_rich
wales_rich

Jess, your voice is great - no need for artist alterations.

khaos107
khaos107

That Abraham game looks like the most poorly designed game ever made! I hope there God doesn't smite them for making such a giant terd.

JRHT
JRHT

I think Christian games will kinda be like Christian music.


If you don't like it, you won't buy it. 

crazeon
crazeon

If Call of Abraham is a RPG they should let you "know" women and beget many offspring.

Verityrant
Verityrant

Call of Abraham: Modern Pilgrimage,  Call of Abraham: Holy Ghosts, and of course  Call of Abraham: Black Locks. 

thegamegod
thegamegod

The only time a game has effected me outside of playing it is when I used to play rockband/guitar hero for hours on end and then I'd get a scrolling forward effect when I looked at something. It didn't kill me though and I look back fondly on my guitar hero vision because it was just strange.

xXl_z3r0_lXx
xXl_z3r0_lXx

Well that first bit about seeing menus sounds like total bullshit that they're trying to use in, yet another, stupid attempt to ban video games from the entire world, because for some reason, old people with old ideals think that video games are the downfall of society, but tv is for some other reason just fine.

neowarrior121
neowarrior121

i don't believe it makes you hallucinate but it does affect perception in real life, for instance playing gta V when i see a real life landrover my first thought is its worth 9k. when i see a cake the music to portal comes into my mind. but hallucinate no thats just crazy

GameYakuza
GameYakuza

did you know? too much anything is toxic. even water.

GameYakuza
GameYakuza

did you know? too much fox news turns you into a bigot.

GameYakuza
GameYakuza

did you know? too many photoshopped ads twist your body image.

Avemaster94
Avemaster94

Back when it was big, Guitar Hero notes would scroll whenever I shut my eyes.

Battle_Pants
Battle_Pants

Hallucinations from video games? I'm skeptical. But I have dreamed about being in The Last Of Us.

rupti
rupti

Pretty safe to say we all want a Reality Check on the hallucination thing

_Roo_
_Roo_

I hallucinated back in college when I was gaming.  However it might have been the LSD and not the game.

LonelyStep
LonelyStep

Gamespot "News" is very opinionated. There is an air of contempt in Jess McDonell's "In what just seems to be a big bowl of controversy gaming and religion are being mashed together . . . do you prefer your games without a strong religious message?" in reference to the Bible-themed game. Compare that to how in an episode of Start/Select GameSpot expressed support of EA standing by its decision to having LGBT characters in its games by describing their actions as "putting their foot so firmly down in the face of some pretty blatant homophobia". Now my purpose is not to argue the merits or demerits of Christian or LGBT themes in games, merely I want to call out GameSpot for being so one-sided. They obviously have a more liberal agenda than some other game-news websites but do they have to make it so blatantly obvious?

Is it okay for developers to put whatever they feel strongly about into their games? Then don't criticize Christians because they want do that. Is it not okay for developers to put whatever they feel strongly about into their games? Then show the same skepticism to Mass Effect and Gone Home.

You purport to be a "news" website, especially on this particular channel. You ought to be more objective.


TL;DR version: GameSpot is biased

ryadings
ryadings

I halucinated once after gaming - 20h quake3 without more than 5 minutes break. Could have been serious lack of sleep though!

loon86
loon86

Love the Dinsey TARDIS outfit :D


PS. Gamer girls diserve at least one meal a day and home-baked cookies from their boyfriends. How many cookies do you get, Jess? :P

fadersdream
fadersdream

Though I never acted on it, I did find my driving got more competitive after playing GTA

notjustin
notjustin

hype is way too high for star citizen not even going to be as good as x-wing for the 64

notjustin
notjustin

i think bible based games would sell well, look at how the wii sold to every nurseing home. there where some games a long time ago i think for the sega maybe it was nes. noah arc, you had to get aniamals to the boat remember a bird would always knock me out of the trees

crazkanuk
crazkanuk

OMG, I must be watching too much GSN, I have been walking around and I see Jess everywhere I go. 


It's pretty bad science because I'm pretty sure that one Reality Check could be done to disprove these "scientific" findings.

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

That hallucinating stuff just sounds like bad science to me. 

Get people to play games for different amounts of time and then give them really obvious questions about what they are seeing and people obviously put something they thought they wanted to hear. 

I played Minecraft for so long one time I was kind of dreaming amount my pickaxe swinging at rocks. If I had been asked what I was dreaming and I had said this they would probably have come to a similar conclusion. 

Crappy surveys that can't distinguish between imagination and actual hallucinations is probably what this is.

MonocleOwl
MonocleOwl

A videogame based on the bible gives you no artistic freedom in writing, it can't. If it was any other book, then perhaps you'd have some wiggle room, but i seriously doubt that christians would leave an important book to be potentially blasphemous 'cause a writer wanted to "take the story to new places".


They might also be forgetting that a game also has to have some merit in its gameplay; seeing as not many people in the industry want to be shackled by the premise that they can only do what's in the book and no deviate in any way, they just aren't going to get any good devs working on it.


And that's a good thing too.

imattyou
imattyou

I am the most anti-religion guy you'll ever meet, but, they want to make a christian game? good for them. I just won't look at it or buy it or have anything to do with it. problem solved, no controversy. it's not like anyone's been forced to play the game, it's just delivering a product to a niche.


in fact, it's probably for the better cuz then it sets a precedent in terms of putting any preachy religious stuff on an isolated product which is specifically targeted rather than sneak it into games targeted for a wider audience.

Tripwolf
Tripwolf

Plenty of games have religious themes. Not sure the controversy. Get over it.

krollvetter
krollvetter

First of all, if that was a clip of the religious game mentioned then I would say, just seeing those horrible graphics, that no real gamer would want to even touch that!  It looks like graphics from 10 years ago! Ugh!


 And, if the theme becomes an overtly proselytizing one, it could be just boring.   Evangelizing belongs outside the gaming world. ( But the bible myths would fit in well with the other myths that developers have used in many games.)


  A game based on christian religious themes was made a number of years ago and relied heavily on the "if you aren't a christian, then you are going to hell" BS as well as seeing how many non-christians the hero could kill.  Not very christian indeed!


As for the games causing people to hallucinate, especially given the examples, sounds very far-fetched.  It may have happened to one or two people who already have hallucinatory problems, but I would definitely say that, no, I do not think it is valid experiment.  I've not heard of one gamer who has suffered from this.  It's just plain silly.

TimberWolf_CLT
TimberWolf_CLT

Sorry the cold's progressed to the "losing my voice" stage.  Hopefully that's a sign that you're getting better.  You did quite well today.

Tomorrow, for grins you could have Seb join you.  You could whisper and he could repeat what you're saying.  Maybe not that funny, but would make for a Monty-Python-esque spot.

As for the news items:

Game based upon Abraham could be interesting.  However, I'm betting it will be like earlier efforts and the developers will worry too much about pushing a message and not just telling the story. That seems a good way to doom the development.  jmho

Hallucinations after gaming:  The folks conducting the survey should have provided a breakdown on what "recreational pharmaceuticals" the participants were partaking of.

And Star Citizen -  It looks really interesting and I'm hoping it will be as good as the clips make it look. 


hippiesanta
hippiesanta

Final Fantasy 10 . religion theme ... and nobody complaining ............ 

ZombieGuyGeorge
ZombieGuyGeorge

@JRHT ...groups like evanescence, creed and flyleaf are actually good if you don't think on them as Christians....oh hell I like them even when they explicitly sing to jesus sometimes. it's good music.

StarsiderSajun
StarsiderSajun

Yeah I've had similar issues when playing anything with patterns like that. Played Wario's Woods for like a day straight and couldn't get it out of my head that night, but it's never a big deal and I certainly wouldn't call it a hallucination.

xXl_z3r0_lXx
xXl_z3r0_lXx

@Battle_Pants That happens with everything, to all of us. Anything can be made into a dream, as long as it's capable of producing memories. Dreams are essentially just random firings of your own memory.

ScreamDream
ScreamDream

@LonelyStep WTF is LGBT? and I'm not going to look up TLDR. You seemed to have a point but I have to skip the abbreviation nonsense to vaguely understand what you are talking about. And if you reply with what LGBT means, I'm not going to re-read the article.  

PFCMike
PFCMike

I don't think they need to deviate from the story. Have you ever read the bible. The story's are incredible.

PFCMike
PFCMike

I don't share your feelings about religion. However I'm glad you understand the principles of freedom. There need be no controversy. If you don't like it don't buy it.

lpool8
lpool8

@Tripwolf i know any game with hell or demons in it for example are technically christian people will just mown about anyithin

crix01
crix01

@krollvetter I disagree. A real gamer would enjoy any game for what it is despite the graphics. The essential is the gameplay or story (depending what type of videogame you're playing), the graphics is the least you care about a couple of hours in game.

jonny_dutch
jonny_dutch

@hippiesanta The whole point of that game was that religion is a fraud, and it breeds racists (Al-Bhed haters) and Psychopaths.

smokin_ganja
smokin_ganja

@hippiesanta As much as I have always loved the Final Fantasy games, I couldn't get into FFX that much because of the religious stuff they kept throwing around.

JRHT
JRHT

@ZombieGuyGeorgeI do fondly remember the Creed and Evanescence singles that made it into the mainstream. I think what made those singles popular, in addition to being good music, was that they weren't super-preachy.


If people liked those singles, then they could discover more of the bands' music and if they agreed with the more Christian tracks, all well and good.


I guess that's how Christian games have to be if they want to spread their message. Good and non-preachy enough to get people to start playing, then if the players like the Christian message, then the mission's achieved.

LonelyStep
LonelyStep

@ScreamDream @LonelyStep Ooh, sorry, ScreamDream, I couldn't understand you there. I mean, what's a WTF mean :P