GameSpot Reports: Survival Horror

Jess McDonell speaks to Amnesia developer Thomas Grip to investigate the appeal behind survival horror games and how they appear to be evolving.

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78 comments
WillyWynn
WillyWynn

I love survival horror games its my favourite genre but we don't have any good survival horror games this days! All good survival horror games turn action games or died with awful games... Resident Evil my favourite series after Re4 turn a action game, lets be straight  RE4 is a mix of  horror with action but isn't a real survival horror game! Real survival horror in the series are Resident 0, 1, 1 remake, 2, 3 nemesis and code veronica... Resident evil 1 remake is the best survival horror ever made my opinion. Silent Hill series after silent hill 3 died completely with awful games... Alone in dark series are equal awful in last games. Dead space with great first survival horror game, the second one was less scary with more action sequences, and third is a action game! Conclusion the survival horror genre is completely dead! 

Falledout
Falledout

Jess get your hair cut, looks crap. Love the survival horror stuff.

LatinproX
LatinproX

oh Jess, why is your voice so silky?

Jimbowesker
Jimbowesker

I absolutely love survival horror if its done right! Horror is a captivating genre both in movies and games and I hope to see future games utilize survival horror as RE2 and Silent Hill 1 & 2 did. We need a revival of this franchise!

Poliveira23
Poliveira23

I still have hope for the survival horror. Its a genre that really treats you like an adult, you have to think (puzzles) you have to know when you can fight and when you have to run for your life.

I agree with Grbonjic, great video.

Grbonjic
Grbonjic

Great video from Jess ! Finally someone does something different. That music in video with lots of darkness and light in the face looks appealing.

freefadi
freefadi

Really Capcom should stop being so greedy. The survival horror market is not small, it only seems like that when you compare it to that of Call Of Duty and it's lookalikes. Capcom should stay loyal to it's original RE fans because the way they are going now it's a betrayal to all of us who made RE an epic franchise. Shame on you Capcom, really shame on you.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

@tempertress Thank you very much for the response; I am looking to get into game design so every little bit of insight from great minds of the industry is gold to me. Just the little bit from him was helpful.

Ladiesman17
Ladiesman17

I found Resident Evil 5 is quite scary, does that mean I'm casual in this genre :(

manicwagon
manicwagon

The reason why survival horror games are losing popularity is because they have had very little change in gameplay since the mid 90's. The; 'not broken, don't fix' attitude only works for so long.

optimuserik
optimuserik

I think the answer is more like : DO MORE AND WE GET MORE . CoD and such are just spammed all across the world , but I haven't played any good horror game for a very long time . I'm tired of constant shooting and WANT some scary stuff ... but there is nothing new ... only more shooters .

Mrod1212
Mrod1212

Paranormal activity and Saw, were not scary(in my opinion). I found them to be quite laughable. Anyways, I think the survival horror genre still has some life left; I wouldn't want it to go away anytime soon.

chaosbrigade
chaosbrigade

I think the survival horror genre is simply reshaping itself from relying too much on jump and freak scares (a.k.a old school Resident Evil) to more of psychological horrors like Amnesia and the few two Silent Hills.

santinegrete
santinegrete

Oh I'm still mad with that Capcom guy for saying such thing. I'm sure that has sense for shareholders... but in the long run people will stop purchasing Resident Evil. I mean... did you even remember the story of RE5? It screamed ACTION GAME just like overall gameplay setting. As I said before it could be rock solid, but alienating for long time RE fans. You had your experiment and proved that a good coop ruins the sense of dread. The same sense of dread that Dead Space could create with it's rampaging enemies, atmosphere, and story. As much as I love this new game saga, I hope they don't overpower Isaac too much... free advice for newcomers: play it on HARD the first time.

Victorious_Fize
Victorious_Fize

I love survival horror, the problem is, it's scary! :P

djpetitte
djpetitte

I love survival horror, in fact its one of my favorite genres. I just wish there was more co op survival horror. like KF and L4D. I actaully have collected horror games the ps1.

genjuroT
genjuroT

rip resident evil. You will be missed.

funkymonkey4710
funkymonkey4710

I am normally not a survival horror gamer, but I would absolutely hate to see the genre die. I will start buying true survival horror games if it means that developers will create more of them.

firehawk998
firehawk998

Regarding Capcoms stupid statement. RE5 is the reason why I stopped buying Resident Evil games and will be passing RE6. Seeing the other RE gameplays and RE5 one can see Capcom is going for a more action orientated, high adrenaline paced, co-op shooter games. According to Capcom only COD sells and nothing else. Thank God there are devs like Frictional Games that are still keeping the horror genre alive.

tempertress
tempertress moderator staff

@Toysoldier34 I did them all myself so unfortunately this is all there is! He is an amazing man and very interesting to talk to. His insights into the survival horror development scene are awesome. @mled I know, I'm sorry! Simply for the aesthetics I think.

Nightrain50
Nightrain50

That resident evil quote is the reason all survivor horror fans shouldn't buy their crap anymore, let them chase the almighty dollar and neglect the fans that brought them fame and fortune. Don't support that. Paranormal activity should not be spoken in the same sentence as the greatest horror film of all time. That film is The Exorcist. I can't believe people continue to spend money on Paranormal joke.

solid_snake1461
solid_snake1461

If you really want to feel the horror then you should pick up Dark Souls. Yeah, that game is really haunting so much that it's gonna freeze your spine solid.

xshadowzz
xshadowzz

I want to slap that Masachika Kawata guy -.-

DEATH775
DEATH775

For me the scariest game would have to be Kuon, Silent Hill and Dead Space.

Kyrylo
Kyrylo

if Capcom won't stop looking at Call of Duty, they could as well sell their company

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

Reading the quote about Resident Evil where they chose to make their games have less horror so that they could sell more and compete with games like Call of Duty made me so sad. Can people just stop buying games like Call of Duty so that other great games can stop getting ruined by needing to try and clone them and appeal to the CoD audience.

constantterror
constantterror

Just wish it wasn't fading away damn cod had to screw everything up please bring back the real survival horrow games they were awesome and please kill off cod cause all its doing is ruining the gaming industry.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

Were all the interviews in this video done for this video? Or are there extended versions elsewhere and these are just clips from them? I would want to hear more form Thomas Grip, the man behind Amnesia.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

Gamespot needs an option to just make all videos load in 720p. It is annoying to need to change it then have the video relaunch.

B-boy
B-boy

silent hill 3 is scaries game ever made also the original doom for pc

mled
mled

Using a Resident Evil 6 image for a video themed "The appeal of Survival Horror" in the main GameSpot page was a fail since it's a Survival Action game and has little to do with the genre. But you reedemed yourself my mainly using real Survival Horror games footage in the video ;)

Soulreavercross
Soulreavercross moderator

survival horror is my favorite but it is a dying this genre and the trend I believe will continue. I miss being scared in games, with my palms sweating, my heart pounding and senses heightened.

tempertress
tempertress moderator staff

@eddieham13 Here's hoping!

tempertress
tempertress moderator staff

@nyran125 I totally agree. I think with Amnesia though it goes past just the resources and to the fact that if you die they change it up and make it more scary so you can't get used to it. Very uncool. And awesome. Respectively.

tempertress
tempertress moderator staff

@8smokes Haha, I know. I was being deliberately Layman =]

8smokes
8smokes

Ok it's not by some "complicated biological reason", fear and stress instill a basic fight or flight response in humans. The response triggers adrenaline. Adrenaline is a drug, and humans like the feeling of that adrenaline ----> people want to get scared to feel the hormone responses.

E25mad25
E25mad25

and there i thought i was the only weirdo

drknessfeeds
drknessfeeds

I think with the way things are with the economy and such Capcom and their shareholders are scared and are trying to move in a different direction which IS NOT WHAT GAMERS WANT. Dead Space was a blast to play but to call it "Survival Horror" is a bit of a stretch for me. If RE takes this path I will be dissapointed. RE: ORC was a good idea but a very flawed game that strayed to far away from the formula that made RE what it is or rather what it was. Going back to playing my Silent Hill HD remakes...

olgert56
olgert56

The appeal? Fantastic atmosphere, great complex story (ex. Siren games), gameplay driven by mystery, great puzzles, different emotions are elicited during the game, almost constant excitement, combat that complements the atmosphere and gameplay perfectly, and great satisfaction when you finish the game. I think it's a pretty pointless video since it touches on the "fear" as if that's the single reason people play games or watch movies... and then there was the Capcom comment... that's not how horror games evolve. That's how they die. You can't just change something and then call it by the same name.

nyran125
nyran125

Survival horror games work because you dont have enough stuff to deal with the situation at hand. Resident Evil 1,2 and 3 and the gamecube remake. Silent Hill 1 and 2 and 3. they all have 1 thing in common. The lack of resources to deal with the scary stuff. You only have a few shots, if you stuff up and run out of resources, its going to turn bad and even scarier than you originally thought. thats when the fear grips the player. When you know you have to rashen out the ammo. Thats survival horror for me. If you have unlimited ammo, Dead space for example, is not really survival horror its a 3rd person action game in space. you know you have enough ammo to deal with everything. Same with DOOM 3. DOOM 3 was scary, but after awhile, not so much because you knew you had enough bullets. It was still a little freaky. Amnesia is scary because, you dont have enough resources to deal with everything(light) adn a guy is behind you all the time and its dark as hell. Survival horror is scary because you dont have enough stuff to deal with everything. If you give the player too much stuff to own the monsters with, youll never reach that legendary survival status that Resident Evil 1 and 2 and Silent hill 1 and 2 heights reached.

_Judas_
_Judas_

 @freefadi I see your point of view, and I too find it unforgiving for them to focus more on an action-oriented gameplay rather than a survival-horror one, but look at this from their point of view ; this is their job, this is how they make money. The market at the moment is unstable, and how do you make more money? Sell more games. How do you sell MORE games? Make games that MORE people will buy. Sadly the mission for these companies is the acquisition of money...  I also find this sad, but I guess most of us are part of the capitalistic society. I really wish Capcom would create a really fantastic and epic survival-horror game next. 

Giglioroninomic
Giglioroninomic

 @Ladiesman17 Yes it does, i'm sorry, because if you could possibly find RE scary that means not only have you never played any survival horror games, but not even 3rd person shooters or other games where the sole source of scares in RE5 are common place - like enemies coming around corners or showing up behind you.

BlackBaldwin
BlackBaldwin

 @manicwagon you my friend must be either ignorant or tired of the genre in general.  Eitherway you can't compare a game to todays standards to twenty years ago. 

 

Giglioroninomic
Giglioroninomic

 @Mrod1212 Paranormal activity was an utter joke - I think they made it on purpose to be funny because it can't be a real horror movie. Saw...not even a horror movie, just a slasher flick. Actually kind of like...murder mystery....horror....something. But it wasn't scary at all. You knew everyone would die. And it was entirely predictable about the people who took over for him or what would happen in regards to John.

ichtus
ichtus

@_Judas_ @freefadi We, the Horror fans, feel the complete and utter lack of good Horror content in games we buy. Hell, even in "Survival Horror" games like SH Homecoming  and Downpour. Both are completely void of effective Horror.

What Capcom should do: 1) stop bitching about sales and crank their games towards Action; 2) inject the Horror and Survival back into the Survival Horror. If done well, this alone could pump some decent money into their accounts.


Make a great Horror game and stop  bitching/comparing whilst you are doing disgraceful shit.

resident_jisen
resident_jisen

 @Giglioroninomic i find to if you played and seen a lot of horror and scary games and movies.after a while you get immune the scaries.you get to the point were you like oh i scene that coming or thats typicals.some cases you start find it funny and not scary anymore.i grew up on the genre. this the case for me now.but i do find the fun to watch and play and it very rare i get scared anymore by them.

 

Giglioroninomic
Giglioroninomic

 @resident_jisen Amnesia though is one of those actually "scary" or at least unsettling games that does deserve to be called survival horror. Most people I know who played it gave up very quickly out of fear of losing and I quit myself because I didn't know where to go or want to deal with it.