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ZephyrEden
ZephyrEden

Oh my gosh, Caro, you look great! And I absolutely love your jacket ^_^

Sun-Tzu-GE
Sun-Tzu-GE

I just realized that me and Tom aren't so different after all.We both hate Bioshock infinite and loved Shadows of the damned.

t3h_h3rb
t3h_h3rb

I really like how Justin was able to defend the pros of F2p and Jim was also a great guest.


I still can't stand Tom's incessant trolling.


Overall, great show.


...and welcome back, Caro!!

Iamkalell
Iamkalell

I haven't played Last of Us yet, but could it be that they gave it the innovation award because it had a realistic female character as one of its main protagonists?


ZeniMax must not be showing the media much of ESO.

jonny_dutch
jonny_dutch

Congrats on your character customisation Caro! Probably the game mechanic we need most in real life.

push88
push88

"... a reminder that Bethesda has probably the worst animation department in all of triple A gaming."  Jeez, Kevin.  Why don't you tell us how you really feel?  Lmao

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

Just to add--Flappy Bird's creator tweeted today that he couldn't take it, and is removing Flappy Bird from the marketplace. 

christaran
christaran

Love that Justin can be so pro-exploitative company practices with a straight face. Good show of his character!

Longini
Longini

Can you please keep the PR guy off of this show in the future? Cheers.

Lord_Python1049
Lord_Python1049

Carolyn looks amazing, great to see her back finally :)

I hate to admit it, but I've spent probably a hundred hours on Candy Crush only because I managed to get around the extremely long wait time with an exploit they haven't caught probably because so few people know it.

So, if your playing it on mobile, and have not connected to facebook with it (It might work even if you have), you can skip past the wait by turning the phone time a few days ahead, going back to the app (where it has now been a few days), then resetting the time to present time. Takes about 4 seconds with practice. It's not a bad time killer, and I feel like I'm doing a big fuck you to King by exploiting this so I feel as if my moral principles are still in tact :) 

Edit: also, try it on dungeon Keeper and see if it works. If it worked with a massive hit like CC, it might work there too?

zena4455
zena4455

I've never played an Elder scroll game I really liked, I've played morrowind and oblivion.I never played more than a few hours and then was overwhelmed by it, not knowing what to do next. So I quit. I have enjoyed playing ESO and preorderd it, I'm sure I will play a lot of it. I'm not very knowledgeable of the lore of the Elder scrolls, but I don't think it would diminish my enjoyment of the game even if I was. My knowledge of Middle Earth has not lessened my enjoyment of playing LOTRO.

I'm primarily an MMO player nowadays and have been since winning Age of Conan from Gamespot a few years back. Now I'm playing mostly LOTRO and SWTOR. I enjoy them very much although I feel that the games have been dumbed down and made easier to accommodate the FTPlayers nowadays.

I'm not a big fan of the concept of a sandbox type of MMO. I'm not a writer and I'm not creative enough to make my own adventure. I enjoy playing the adventures other people wrote for me. I read books, I don't write them, I listen to music, I don't play it. I watch movies, I don't make them. There will always be producers and consumers. My pleasure comes from the creativity of others, not by creating my own stories. I want that in my games too.

BenderUnit22
BenderUnit22

BioShock Infinite is racist? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard today

BenderUnit22
BenderUnit22

Damn you, Tom, I bought Spelunky on Vita because you wouldn't shut up about it. And I got the damn thing on Steam and don't even like it...

EPaul
EPaul

Nice to hear Jim on gamespot, he's been fighting the good fight for us gamers for awhile now

NTM23
NTM23

Oh really? In 12 minutes huh? Too bad I won't watch it until later... Hopefully you guys talk at a good length about Metal Gear Solid in general, on top of Ground Zeroes and even perhaps Phantom Pain.

Coren_Larken
Coren_Larken

I saw this pop up on 'videos/shows/gameplay' and I got really excited...and then I see "live stream starts in 2 hours 40 minutes 55 seconds."

And now I'm bummed...

shadowheart7
shadowheart7

10 bucks says they are going to complain about The Last of Us winning "best innovation" #callingit 

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@push88  I've never been particularly good at hiding my feelings!

skootbootz
skootbootz

@Kevin-V I have played plenty of MMO's and played no Elder Scrolls games (just like fallout better). I couldn't imagine playing ESO. Both as a new player or a ES veteran. For others who have played and experienced all the ES game up until this point, they are accustomed to a certain type of combat and game mechanics for that series and settings. They have explored the world and had total freedom in their choices and way of playing. Why would they want to go on a scripted quest through the same world and be confined to game mechanics that just aren't inherently ES? And for a new player to the ES series, like myself, ESO just isn't offering anything that hasn't been done. I think if ES was a different type of game meaning its genre then maybe playing ESO would be something cool and fun, but since ESO is so close to what ES already is, it just seems pointless.

Take WOW for instance the reason it was cool was because the long term fans played Warcraft in a much different way (RTS) so when we were giving the opportunity to explore the lore and environments in a very different way, it felt fresh and fun, regardless of what it has turned into. 

You said you wanted to hear from someone who likes MMO's, but doesn't play Elder Scrolls, so there you go. I have no interest in playing ESO or any other ES game, even though Elder Scrolls is my type of game, heck even watch Top 5 Mods on this website. 

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@christaran  Just isn't pro-exploitative practices--he's just very practical. He's arguing that it's profitable, not that it's ethical. And he recognizes, very rightly, that those games are not made for people like us. 

Longini
Longini

Ok I take it back after that gun cum comment that made me hear Jim's laugh haha.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@BenderUnit22  I've heard plenty of good arguments supporting that position. It's not a criticism I personally have of the game, but I don't think it's a silly one. 

gotthammer
gotthammer

@BenderUnit22  it has racial issues in-game, but, yeah, at no point did I feel the game itself was racist (I'm Asian, btw). 

BS: Infinite has some aspects that could've been handled better.
I'm of the mind that less time spent in combat and more in narrative and/or interaction w/ the environment and its actors would've been better; esp. since, IMHO, the combat, as it was, kinda got tedious at times, even if I still think it works to help contrast some of the less violent/more quiet parts.

But "racist"? Nah. Didn't seem that way, if memory serves. 

Longini
Longini

@Kevin-V So obviously you like Dark Souls better than Skyrim, but I've wondering for awhile what you liked better between Skyrim and The Witcher 2? That was a great year for RPGs.

nl_skipper
nl_skipper

@Kevin-V That's fair, but there comes a point when those games aren't really meant for anyone, and are no longer even games.. Star Trek Trexels comes to mind, as does the new Dungeon Keeper... haven't yet listened to this yet so I don't know if he's defending such extremes when it comes to the F2P model.. but I hope not!  


There comes a point when it goes from smart design and being mindful of profit, to pure-exploitation while offering little to no reward.  I don't really know how such games even get traction, but sometimes it's better not to do things just because you can... even in the name of profit.

Longini
Longini

Also welcome back Carolyn! The podcast felt like it was missing something when you were gone.

BenderUnit22
BenderUnit22

@Kevin-V What are these arguments? I mean, there IS racism in the game for sure, but that doesn't mean the game is racist. Schindler's List isn't a racist movie.

Kevin-V
Kevin-V moderator staff

@Longini @Kevin-V  I give Skyrim a *slight* edge for various reasons. But my top 3 games of the year were Witcher, Skyrim, and Dark Souls. Indeed a great RPG year.