@luseiferoth I understand what your saying, but can you really blame them for thinking like this? I mean we are ruthless and love free things!! that's the way society is making us. Not saying you and I in particular are scammers, and yes it ruins it for the good gamers, but whos to say who is good? and as for weapons and dungeons, it would take you days to download, with constant connection patches can be downloaded while playing!! and sometimes there updates are far to big to download! I don't know about you but i am not waiting 4 days to download 3 new dungeons and 30 new items =)
@Cozm1kaos patches for weapons and dungeons? those actually don't require constant connection to the internet. as long as we are able to download the patch within a time frame, it would be enough. There's no need for constant connection for the single-player experience. *sigh* When company cares more about policing the customer, this is what we get: unnecessary, invasive and/or disruptive protection measure. They see players more like a possible criminal rather than a deserving customer. They have no respect for players, they treat us like a farm animal, to be constrained and pushed around.
@luseiferoth No my friend, they are already talking about patches that can add on more weapons/dungeons. *shrugz* i don't no man, these guys will always find a way to triumph.
@Cozm1kaos Extras on their servers? What are those? AH? Virtual Trophy? Ladder? Online Experience? What a joke. A lot will fall for those "extras on their servers" but I'm sure there are equal number of smarter people out there that knows those aren't the meat of Diablo series. I have been a strong defender of legitimate copy, but this time around, if they say a thing against piracy of Diablo III, I'm not even gonna bother to sympathize. They can go die eating their own arrogance.
I understand what you are saying, but misleading? Misleading would have been like "yes it is offline and online" but have it only online on release date. Yes i feel for the ppl who do not have internet connection, and yes it may cause more pirated playing, but at the end Blizz finds ways to ensure certain parts of the game can only be accessed on their servers. So unfortunately you either get internet and buy the game or just play the bland priated version of it and loose out on their extras on their servers.
@Cozm1kaos It was designed to be online, the genre is MMORPG. Customer know what to expect. Those who wanted to play MMORPG surely bought them. Diablo III is announced as ARPG. But it requires internet as if we're playing MMORPG. Isn't that misleading? Of course people will be pissed. Those who have no internet or no stable internet connection surely will play the pirated ones, or at least hack their legitimate copy so that they can play it without interruption. Why? Because of the stupid online requirement. Instead of doing that, they could have just cut the cost from this protection thing and they will be able to cater for a wider range of audience. People will be more satisfied.
Their loss? again this is not the first time blizzard has only online game. World of warcraft being one of them has been very successful,they don't care!!! if you don't have internet don't play done! don't complain because it sets you back. They already have given a ton of options for us users not having to upgrade our old rigs what more do you guys want?
@Cozm1kaos Oh well, their loss. I'm gonna bet the ratio of pirated game player to original game player will increase over this stupid move. Server maintenance cost, DRM outsourcing etc etc will increase the production cost. Add that with the ever increasing living cost with no improvement in average income of the population, the company have just cut a large pie out of their own income. We're voicing our opinion. When they ignore customer's opinion when people can see through their lies to scam people out of their money, add that with reality *out there*, a lot of people will resort to black market.
How about take the auction house out? I mean come on real money auction house yeah just help the people farming items instead of hacking people that are dumb enough to give away their username and pw just make it so they dont have to do anything just sit there and play the auction house all day real money may have been envolved with D2 but you also have to keep in mind not everyone is going to go out of there way for in game items they are acting like EVERYONE paid real money for items im sorry but i dont know anyone that did that and i know like 40 people personally that played that game and i know there are tons more people that never even gave spending real money on items in that game a thought the beauty of the game is going around and FINDING these items if your just going to buy them well there went about 3 hours of game play right there GJ buy 1 more item there goes another 2 hours
This is not a pvp game, and it will not excel in that area. Diablo 2 pvp was poor, and the pvp in this game will also be mediocre. It's experimentation, and a treasure hunt. That is the bread and butter of this game.
Why are you all so excited to duel? I play games to have fun. Not to compete. Cooperative modes are cool, especially in a game like this with all the difficulty options and what you could call new game +. What is it with you people always needing to kill each other? Grow up will you
Oh to touch on the internet only gaming. Activision introduced this feature in their games due to the increase rise of piracy. I don't believe people should be punished if they don't have an internet connection. My career is in IT, and believe me.. The average person has either no internet, or very very slow internet. This is just an easy way to fix the piracy issue which ultimately just punishes gamers. Patch your games, spend more hours on finding ways to prevent piracy than being lazy and punishing players. (This comment was sponsored by FKN Awesome Internetz Connection
This is my problem with the Real-Money auction house. Since Mr. Jay likes to reference the old Diablo || and how real-money item purchasing did not ruin the game. Let me explain why it could. In diablo 2, real-money item purchasing only became extremely popular when farmers got together to develop a third party software that was able to bypass diablo 2 battlenet security much like map hack could. This third party software is called a: Bot Program, and this program was used to farm items without even needing to be at your computer!; Also seen in most RPG games. I believe if the developers do not securely control third party software, this auction house will become an easy outlet to farmers to control the game's economy, their personal wealth, and of course my favorite, who ever has money to spend / or bot program = win in pvp matches and generally play the game better than you. Gaming is competitive, and we should keep it that way. Bot programs, Hacks, Real-money auction houses is like steriods for an already really good product; therefore, it's not needed.
so the AH is what is keeping this game from being released !!!! hope it is optional cause I just want to play this game until I get bored and then move on, I don't give a rat's ass about uber gear or arena (lol). give us diablo 3 already.
I'm not sure bout this game is still on a fever pitch or if it has lost a hell load of fans, couse it is never commin out... it would be wise from blizzard to take it out ASAP, couse i've heard in lots of forums bout people gettin sick of waiting so mucho. I was great DIABLO and DAIBLO II fan, but i gotta admit this waiting has put down my expectations, speacially couse maybe grafics n mechanics or even the engine may be outdated for when it comes out.
popularity for this game has reached a new fever pitch. Blizzard would be wise to get the game out before the frenzy ebbs. They say that it's coming out before the end of the year, but if they're still hesitant to announce a release date, I have my doubts.
Multiplayer = great, Single Player Co op = great. But why no normal Single Player offline mode as a choice? Come on Blizzard?! Then it is not a normal Diablo anymore. Just add a choice - that's what games are all about. Player's choice.
Make money doing what I love? Hell yeah! Instead of giving away crap set items or selling them to merchants, i'm going to sell it and make a buck. Diablo 2 dueling was the most pointless thing to do in the game. Unless of course you wanted to make some gold and like selling ears for 1 gold piece. You were more then likely going to be killed by a hacker anyway and lose that gold. Besides, 99% of people dueling in diablo 2 were hackers and exploiters.
tunred off..i mean all the geek who gonna pay to have the best char gonna get stronger and stronger easily(cant kill boss easy as hell and get more gear) while you,you gonna work "hard as hell" to get gear then duel...and it here that the super retarted geek come in the game whit is overpowered char whit like 70-100 buck gear and own evrybody in the game who dont have buy gears and then you are like wtf i never been own like this in a game by a same lvl i have to buy gear or stop dueling if i dont wanna get own like this in all the duel game(cuz many people gonna buy gears whit real cash belive me people are retarded)...in one sentence to be the strong you have to pay or dont duel and play this game whit friends(the thing i loved the most in d2 was building a char then dueling)....
And to all other people who disagree, there are thousands of video games for ppl to play, some great some not so great, great games are created by the developers not based on ppl opinions. Not so great games are the same, so if you go out and buy a car and have 2 choices, 1 being a honda and other being a Nissan you would obviously choose the car best fitted for you or your desires. In reality both cars are equally same quality and price. It all comes down to what you prefer, now for the ppl not liking the only ONLINE in D3 look over to your right you will find another game of same Genre but strictly single player. But if you like Diablo franchise but keeping it single player than blizzard nor I can help you with that. Gaming has always thrived to being compatible with online, and now that they mastered it they are trying to keep it strictly online for so many positive reasons. One being live patch's, meaning we can have access to more acts in diablo!!! more weapons possible more classes/races. I for one think having only ONLINE is a great thing, i mean we live in 2011 internet is so easy to come by now adays so if you dont have internet?? than you need to purchase it to keep up with future gaming =) if i have offended anybody i am extremely sorry it is not my intention. i am just trying to say future gaming is online.
@luseiferoth wow is all i have to say!!?!?!? you are so mad!!! heha if you cannot play multi and hate it than stick to games that do not have multiplayer. For example D3 is multi which means you cannot play it =( boo!! hahaha better for us all, this way we seperate the non experienced gamers from the experienced gamers. Gamers who look forward to future gaming and stop looking at how things were!!! the future is online so either deal with it or get out and stop spaming complaints on why D3 is only online, stop trying to ruin things for other people.
@bicusdicus Uh huh. You'll buy it as soon as all of your friends start playing and you realize this is a video game designed for us to enjoy and Blizzard to make money, and not tyrant to depose or a cause to fight for. It's a game, man. It's not way of life or a substitute there-of. Whether it's fun or not should be the only determining factor if you play it. If you have a wife you should know there are more important uses of your time and energy anyway.
You know those awful pictures of your parents from the 80's? 70's perhaps? how ashamed they feel about who they were. Take a picture young Blizzard fans this is your moment! (cannot believe he said they want to save our accounts from hackers with a straight face. They do not care. He is L_Y_I_N_G. They just want money. And for those not wise enough to see how this mentality eats away at the quality of games. I hope for your sake your eyes are wide open and you are learning) Ever since Blizzard Was sold to that horrible company, WoW started going south fast. Now the laughing stock of the MMO community. Soccer moms and others that do not play other MMo's like GW or TOR (about to hit) are what mostly they have left. Care bears. Puppies of the MMO verse. The company no longer has a great reputation among all gamer's like it once did. It is a money machine and the fans cannot give them enough money. This is not new in the history of the human race. 25$ to do an automated server change. Nobody cares. No surprise that people, who seem ignorant of the value of a dollar and not owning a game you paid 60$ for may I add. I was waiting for this game forever. My wife will be shocked when she hears I have no plan to play it or any other game blizz ever makes. they jumped the shark with starcraft ( same game in every detail as first one with added out of game crap and this site and other reviewers gave it a high rating. shame on you gamespot! History will find you lacking there. Same game in every single detail, gameplay wise. Big price tag too. But now they are part of a company that does only this, drain money from a game then move on) Anyone who would rush to buy anything blizzard sells remind me of a fool and his money, and how soon those 2 things are still parted, so many years after that expression came to be.
He almost said that "Allowed the player to HACK" @1:25 lmao Sounds about right.. :/ He is 100% correct on people buying items on diablo II....log into d2 if you haven't in years... Spamming paragraghs of d2lewt.com etc etc..Repeatedly..... And on A ladder reset..They sell and people buy enigma @ 100 bucks first week! and d2 is what? over 10 yrs old? lol
Blizzard charges you to list the item and will probably get a percent of the total sale like Ebay. This is not going to stop hackers, thieves or phishing if anything this will encourage it. Weighing cost, mods and graphics, Torchlight 2 looks better IMO
I'm looking forward to this. I've already opted in to the beta and there's no way I'm not buying it. Thing is...I could never get in to Diablo II. LOVED Diablo I, but that was by a different team(guys behind Torchlight). So, I'm just praying that the team is, in some way, shape, or form going to pay homage to the original.
Some people should get in their thick skulls that there is a difference between whinning and telling someone what they want...those bashing the "so called whinners" should take pause. Those people are just stating what they want, isnt' that fair enough to be allowed to say yes or no on something? you have to give people freedom of choiceand it is the right the voice your opinion on some apsects of the game without being bashed. however this turns out remains to be seen, but i can feel a whole lot of disapointment comin on!
no matter how good they try protecting their game from piracy its going to happen with enough time they should follow the creators of the witcher examle and make it easy for those who pre-order and buy the game by putting a basic protection a one time internet activation because most sales happen in the first month or so of release and as i said it will take time to bypass so if you want to play the game as early as possible like i know most fans would you will pre-order or buy the game before the review is even released and do not take away offline coop
I also don't quite buy into Wilson's magnanimous arguement that offering this "service" is soley to protect the player base from hackers and thieves. 3:12 - 3:23 - translation: 'Despite our attempts to disuade the sector of the player base that have too many dollars and not enough sense, we eventually came to the realization that since the people that ran these services were still around they must be making a sustainable income. So in the vein of "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" we hope to cash in on their customer base instead. The long term goal of course will be finding ways to implement these real world cash sinks into our other properties.' Now in all fairness, I really don't care what one does with their money. If you want to sink a three or four hundred dollars into a game you likely won't be playing in five years, more power to you. I myself am guilty of this having been a WoW player for ~4 1/2 years. But I must once again point out that before shelling out the cash to buy that shiny new Godly Plate of the Whale, take a good long look at the EULA. Look for a section that states anything resembling the following as can be found in the Starcraft II: WOL End User License Agreement: 7. No Transfer or Sublicense. THE GAME IS LICENSED, NOT SOLD. NEITHER THE GAME NOR THE LICENSE GRANTED IN SECTION 1 MAY BE SUBLICENSED OR TRANSFERRED TO ANY OTHER PERSON OR ENTITY, AND ANY ATTEMPT TO DO SO SHALL BE NULL AND VOID. Buyer beware: a fool and his money are soon parted
RE: "Molinaj31: @Splincir "If they didn't think real money was involved in that game, they were fooling themselves, because it absolutely was." No it was not." LMAO........Go on Ebay type in "Diablo 2 items" and tell me what you find" Allow me to point out that you took one snippet of what Splincir said and used it to make a point that is basically rendered meaningless by his following statement: "I for one NEVER SPENT A PENNY on diablo or diablo 2 AFTER PURCHASING THE GAME. The only people that were buying those items were the same fools who buy chinese gold in wow." (Caps lock for emphasis). I don't have to go to EBay to find out how pervasive the 'Bits for Cash' scam was (and still is) as my squelch lists were filled with a plethora of accounts used to hock virtual (read: fake/illusionary) goods and services. The point was, Wilson's "general response" was not quite as absolute as he would have you believe.
No matter If you're for or against, what Blizzard is doing Lets keep these threads cool. We don't have to agree and we don't have to insult each other either.
I kinda like the auction house concept - now i'll have a place to sell or trade my overflowing gold, which was pointless in D2 - people just stopped picking it up after level 60. Speaking of lvl 60 as a level cap - wow, obvious expansion unlock of higher levels, anyone?
I dont understand why everybody is insulting eachother over a game. All I know is this game is gonna rock, and I cant freakin' wait to finally play it!!!
@Cozm1kaos Hey, might as well they call it Diablo Online and don't get dodgy about it. If they just want to make an online game, call it one. I for one don't even play multiplayer in ANY of diablo series. The thing is they call it an ARPG but from the look of it, they should just call it Online ARPG. If anything, this is deception close to scamming. And, hello, not everyone even care about the best gear, some just want to go through a single play through without interruption. Heck, I sometimes used character editor because I just want to know the story and game mechanics. I'm gonna guess: you're a show-off kind of player who are frustrated when your trophy can be faked. You play games over multiplayer just to show-off you can get better items in the VIRTUAL world. Good luck with REAL life. Oh, well, it's money that talks nowadays anyway. Have fun making the fat-cat fatter. You know one way to combat piracy much more efficiently in term of cost? look at Galactic Civilization. They don't even CARE to put in cd-key protection, not even any type of DRM out there. BUT THEY STILL MAKE A LOT OF PROFIT.
@Cozm1kaos, I am not whining for 1 and 2, as I said... enjoy the game. This version of Diablo is very different from past ones will not be as popular as the past ones with many users because it is online only, accept that fact and stop being such a pathetic fan boy.
@slickr Yeah .. um yeah were idiots were going to spend 60 bucks and sell items for REAL money actually turning a profit on our original while you smart people crack the game and play offline. Yeah were soooo stupid...
@Cozm1kaos - 2 things: 1- I never said bankrupt... please do not distort my words 2- There is one thing called "respect" please try to use it when you reply. Thank you.
@noigel Heha you must be new to Blizzard, if blizzard ever goes bankrupt than the world is ending. Blizzard has been around for ages, and when you think of PC gaming the first thought in most peoples minds are Blizzard. So there is no such question as if or even thinking of imagining. That will never happen, and as Darthexodus said Also requiring an internet connectiong to play should come as no suprise to anyone in this day an age lots of games do it, mainly to help combat piracy. And we are talking $50 bux or less here not 1000 bux.