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Pimpedoutboy123
Pimpedoutboy123

In my opinion, Regi was out of line for saying "It's all turtles fault." Yes, if turtle had lived, they maybe would have one that game, but it's a team game with a number of factors in it. If Dyrus wasn't camped, if they focused TF and Caitlyn better, etc. So yes, essentially, you can say it is all Turtles fault, but realistically, they all could have played better.

Alecmrhand
Alecmrhand

I dont understand what Regi is trying to say most of the time.

He may be real good at what he does, but his leadership skills are horrid.  

A little advice Regi-- 

If you want to be respected, and you do...., and thats awesome....you need to take responsibility for every loss....no matter what mistake Turtle made....it is not a good example to blame him in front of the team....as the leader, its your fault before Turtles, thats they way the best leaders would see it.  If you have a problem with something Turtle did, you take him aside and voice it, you do not point fingers in front of the team.  It makes you look petty. It makes you look small. If you want your team to follow your calls during a game, especially if they dont agree, they cannot have those ideas in the back of their minds.  


reggie186
reggie186

I really hate Regi's attitude. What a jerk.

Louis4357
Louis4357

LOL Turtle is just sitting there silently while Regi is bashing him while arguing with Xpecial.

Ruaille
Ruaille

Whenever Regi and Xspecial argue, Regi jumps straight to his trusty "you're just arguing with me to argue with me" defense. This is why there's no constructive feedback from anyone except Regi - because Regi doesn't allow anyone to give constructive feedback.
Also, Xpecial and Regi have so much friction between them they don't even realise that they meant the same thing - It's true, they lost because Turtle kept getting caught out. Regi wasn't saying that it was totally Turtle's fault, Turtle being caught out is the whole teams fault, they're there to protect their carries and they didn't perform.

I don't think that Regi should step down, he's a good leader, he makes the calls etc. Regi just needs to care less about his pride or being right all the time and think about what's best for the team. When someone offers feedback, he needs to try and see it through their eyes and maybe it'll change his own view of what went right or wrong.

The reasons that lead to TSM losing are pretty much the same as the reasons anyone loses in Solo Queue - the team doesn't communicate. It doesn't help that Regi is so aggressive all the time, Xspecial is the only one who even tries to offer feedback, the rest of the team has just given up on trying to change Regi's mind.

Austinnzz
Austinnzz

I wish Xspecial lead TSM. They are doing so bad not because Regi needs to retire, but because he is such a terrible leader. Xspecial doesn't take side or have a celebrity "alter ego" like Regi seems to have. Don't get me wrong, Regi isn't bad but just needs to become a better leader even if it means keeping your mouth shut to maybe boost your team's morale. Because morale seems like the biggest problem for TSM. I love TSM so much, but Regi's leadership should be questioned maybe after this season. 

Aileeluya
Aileeluya

Only if Regi-ape can be smart like hotshotGG ... his time is done, the new meta, champ and plays dont suit him, let along hes so full of himself and doesnt care/listen to what his teammate has to says ... its true at one point he was a good play, like hotshotgg was also but like hotshotGG his style and plays dont work, if he stepped down he can still make tons of money as owner, porb more since TSM can win games again like CLG is, and Im sure xpecial and the rest would be more than happy to create strage and make calls that every1 can and are willing to follow (the smart calls)

guamkyle
guamkyle

What the hell happened to only arguing about what happened in the game only after you watch the replay? You know what's funnny? Regi getting mad at wild turtle getting caught when dyrus got caught countless amount of times. He prolly didn't want to bash on dyrus like what he did to turtle cause he knows dyrus would prolly do that same reaction on what happened last time. Regi needs to be more constructive and some of that game was his fault also. The only reason wild turtle got caught was because there was no peel. You guys had all slows and and they had knock ups and stuns. 


Sexpizza
Sexpizza

If you have to point out that you are the leader of the team in an argument, almost everything you say is instantly invalidated. If using that as the main plot point of your argument you should stop arguing and start listening. Xpecial was totally correct. A collective of events led to the loss of that game. Regi was only concerned with being correct, and he was willing to say anything to put that point across. Regi needs to try a different leadership tactic than verbal berating. Earlier in GameCrib he mentioned that he was too easy on them last season, however they made it to worlds. This season, he isn't being a leader, he is being an asshole, and the team is in severe jeopardy. In my experience, the person who has the decision to fire players from a team, should not be one of the players, or the captain for that matter. Regi does not have an objective view. He only sees what he wants to see in the game. Very few times do I ever notice regi taking responsibility for a loss, but instead he picks one or more of his teammates and verbally abuses them into silence. I don't think the team should disband, or chaox should come back or any silliness like that. I do however think regi should let someone else make calls for a while, and see how it works out. He just does not possess the personality needed to separate constructive criticism from toxic arguments.

zaxrider
zaxrider

Haven't been following TSM for a while, where's Chaox?

rasdel
rasdel

Regi might be a good player... but he is no leader... he is no team player... and that is costing the team. Xpecial or Dyrus should be leading the team and it would be much better.

A leader knows how to listen... in order to understang what the team NEEDS... and act accordingly... Reginald doesn't listen and just hopes everyone to follow... that's no leader...

xkrissi
xkrissi

wtf is wrong with reginald... hes being so mean to wildturtle and hes sitting litterally right next to him saying wildturtle is the only reason we lost... the 4 other TSM members need to do something to make regi see that he needs to bench himself..

AzatiS
AzatiS

I would love to see all current players of TSM leave and let Regi alone !! I would love to see that , favorite episode if ever happens

psybuster05
psybuster05

TSM needs to disband so that Reginald can retire and the better people (everyone who isn't Reginald) can make/join a better team (preferably with Chaox again).

Jasper_Kazai
Jasper_Kazai

I've had a friend like Regi - the type who think they are ALWAYS right, and will never relent or admit they're not. They keep pressing you until you agree with them and admit they're right or just leave, even if you just want to stop arguing. It gets really hard to deal with them sometimes. I fear for TSM.

humanproof
humanproof

Even if this has added drama through the editing process, it's pretty clear that Regi needs to take a step back and learn to look at TSM in a more objective light. He just doesn't have that capability, even if he can be a good player. He also doesn't have the ability to see that he does place blame on individuals rather than either looking at his own play/mechanics -or- saying a more diplomatic "Look, we need to work on better strategies in order to make ourselves better."

These episodes do not put him in a good light, which is bad for both him and the team.

rigloa
rigloa

i cant stand watching reginald... words cannot describe his attitudes towards the team, i say bench Reginald for a week or 2 and see what happens ;(

Wreckognized
Wreckognized

Regi has made three of his teammates cry in half of a season. Best leader NA. Xpecial new shot caller and get a new mid laner, Salce/ Ecco / Pr0lly/ the list goes on and on. Only good thing he's bringing to TSM is laughter at his TF.

Chinoelpanda
Chinoelpanda

Regi is the team leader but a team leader isnt just someone who bosses people around. He is someone who should improve everything and everyone around him as a team leader. But yet he fails to do this because he acts like a child, making decisions for everyone else. Even if they say that they "don't care", they actually still do care. Regi doesnt seem like he is capable of reasoning with his teammates and just hear them out.. Not saying he's a douchbag or anything, its just that he needs to be more open-minded.. Sad days..

RoadStar1602
RoadStar1602

Once again Reginald defends his crown as the biggest dickhead in esports. Grats, bro!

I'd really like to see the other four members form a new team. All they need is a mid laner, and Dyrus is already good friends with Phantoml0rd.

frylock1987
frylock1987

Oh look. He drinks mountain dew and is a professional virgin...I mean, Gamer.

Wulpix
Wulpix

Reginald is so stuck up on winning himself, that he doesn't see that he needs to improve as a team, and that is creating a toxic environment for the rest of them. He's so hard on them and none of them have the courage to stick up to him, fearing they could end up like Chaox. He completely flopped the last game as Twisted Fate, and I'm curious to see if he actually owns up for it. If he doesn't, I think Dyrus, Xpecial, and Oddone should leave to make their own team and bring Chaox back. The rest of the team have so much potential and Regi doesn't let them show it because he's Mr. "Shot Caller". He either needs to quit being the asshole he is for the sake of the team, or step down.

lajalex0
lajalex0

Riot please do something about this Reginald is toxic

indrct
indrct

Reginald is SOOOOOOOOO fucking egocentric.  What a douchebag.

dawnquest
dawnquest

Regibro is just confused. I think he cares more about winning the argument than actually winning the game. With a bad leader and poor communicator in Regibro, I don't see how tsm would win other than just by sheer luck.

kikimanox
kikimanox

please tsm dont disband :( Make more gamecrib .. I love it

Demoyn
Demoyn

We better see Reginald arguing with Reginald about how he single-handedly lost the game against CLG on episode three.

blackwingzero
blackwingzero

Seems like Regi is refusing to accept the facts and is just denying them when they loose. Its like he's the one that's got to be right all the time and the reality is he ain't always right. If ask me I though this episode was going to be about witnessing the fall of TSM and it is quite possible that we are going to in the comming epsiodes if they can't turn things around internally.

aaron4bz
aaron4bz

Reginald is such an asshole, he seems very power hungry. He needs to realize that he's making mistakes and maybe his team will improve. Him lower his teams moral is nothing nothing but bad, instead of being so negative he needs to bring a positive environment to his team so they can perform without worries on the back of their minds.  Imo, the only reason TSM is doing poorly in the Summer Split is because Regi is pulling them down.

b0sse
b0sse

omg that discussion in the car at the end............. there you can really hear how fukin retarded regi is.

hahaha he couldnt even admit it was HIS fault they lost cause he dived in and died solo without letting them know he wanted them to follow, and then he puts it all on turtle for getting caught at the end?

hahah get a new brain regi, you are pathetic.

oomuffins
oomuffins

Ugh. Regi is killing TSM, slowly but surely. He always needs someone to be the scapegoat.

b0sse
b0sse

Reginald is an arrogant self-absorbed asshole. "When I don't get to call the shots, we lose." Like it's all him........... FACEPALM.

jakelsu29
jakelsu29

REGI IS SUCH A JERK. I CAN NOT STAND LISTENING TO HIM TREAT XPECIAL LIKE SHIT


Kr3isen
Kr3isen

Regi has the mentality of a bronze, in his eyes hes the all-knowing and the almighty, everybody else is just there to back up his plays.

Thats not how a team should function.

SCyTi
SCyTi

Wow Regi just complains about how much more work he has to do than the other guys. Then when the other guys try to contribute and if it goes wrong in anyway he just yells at them instead of actually working with them. He is really creating a toxic work environment for the team.

AsianAndAmazing
AsianAndAmazing

@rasdel you do realize to lead something there are different ways to act and do, regis more of the do what I want type or military xd, what your asking for is mostly democracy I think. so yeh different types but regi is the boss of the team unlike other professional teams where their only players...

Wreckognized
Wreckognized

@izoni  What is there to understand?? Regi is simply a jerk, bully, and a HORRIBLE Twisted Fate player. If you're trying to deny that, than you're thinking of a different Regi.

misturivan
misturivan

@Skattin Regi, mature? Because "GUYS IT'S ALL YOUR FAULTS, I'M SO PERFECT BECAUSE I'M LEADER AND SHOT-CALLER. LISTEN TO ME OR I KICK YOU." is mature. If he wants to keep his team and company, how about he accept his mistakes and quit putting them on other people?

izoni
izoni

@Wreckognized @izoni  You are just being children and all :) and i agree with your Twisted Fate fact , he does suck 

Meerpo
Meerpo

@Teffian @keeetz @Skattin @Wulpix well thats true he maybe has to be harder and the whole team has to be more serious, but that doesnt justify his scumbagnes. the points he is making in the car at the end are just retarded and then he tells xpecials his points doesnt make any sense thats bullshit ans this is just one example for his behavior when they lose it was the same with dyrus when he played shen, like when they lose it looks like he has to blame someone even if he did something even worse in this game. i think he has to stop the blame and should help them to improve to lern from there mistakes and not just saying you are the reason why we lose. you can clearly see how angry xpecial gets and turtle isnt even smiling (and this should mean something 0.o)

Teffian
Teffian

@keeetz @Skattin @Wulpix There is way to much at stake for regi and the gang and they take so much more serious , these past episodes has only shown drama and games . last season regi said that he was being way too nice and the team agreed . world´s is coming up and regi is flipping the switch to become the best team in the world and you need to realize that they are not just gamers now , they are athlets ( its not a thing i say . its a fact ) 

keeetz
keeetz

@Skattin @Wulpix Well his style of leadership isn't working, and it's more detrimental to TSM than it is helpful. 

Skattin
Skattin

@Wulpix @Skattin Yes, some parts are true but they edit it in such a way to make it  bigger than it is. They make it look so emotional when all regi is trying to do is get to this team to win worlds. You're too much of a simpleton to understand that.

Wulpix
Wulpix

@SkattinYou know GameCrib IS behind camera and none of it is over-hyped OR scripted? You think Dyrus raging and being emotionally hurt for Regi yelling at him is over-hyped? Xpecial crying? Chaox getting kicked, and him and Dyrus crying for him leaving? I doubt you spoke to any of them. He's toxic, it's right there in front of us. Sure he's leader, and sure he's hard, but ACCEPT. YOUR. MISTAKES. and quit killing your own team!

Skattin
Skattin

@misturivan @Skattin yes, because you would most definitely know what happens behind camera and out of the glamour drama view. I have personally spoken to regi, oddone, dyrus at MLG, and they say it's all hyped up and what regi is doing, he has good reason. An it's his job to put them in line, or none of them would by themselves.