Doom 3 vs Doom 3 BFG Edition
What does a remaster mean to a game released in 2004? We shine some light on what has been improved in Doom 3 BFG Edition. Also, shadows.
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Holy crap, really people? If you're gonna complain about it than just don't spend the money on it, bunch of 3rd rate whiny children if you ask me. Seriously, get over it... Complaining about something that's totally not even worth it, Stop crying. Like really, this just spells 1st world problems... I personally thought it was great to be able to switch between D1, 2 and 3 on my 360 whenever the heck I felt like it, and the mounted flashlight, Mwah, just aces. Everyone's like, mod this, mod that. Hey douchewad! Alot of us didn't have doom 3 for pc, nor do some people even have a pc, so for those of us that play it on Playstation or X-box, this release was absolutely perfect. Thanks be to you ID, People are just mad that they fell for a great marketing scheme, and in that case they should be mad at their own stupidity, not at ID for pulling it off.
The removal of light and shadow on smaller objects was absurd. The remastering is meant to get the thing improved, not worsen. You can argue as much as you want, but only the removal of this shadow effect from the spots and from the poor lantern they killed the only good thing was in there. The mission of Bravo team is annoying and unfair. Buy for a cheap price the original D3 and forget this messy attempt to stun you from other id titles.
shadow managing was totally a feature that i love. i can stay in the light with no ways to shoot enemies or in the dark ready to kill. both ways im in danger. in bfg edition i was yawning most of the time. i really hated the zoom that the game had. i couldnt see the amount of ammo my plasma gun has while i was running and i could totally see it on vanila d3. i cant wait for doom 4.
hey you idiots! first up, this was not an attempt to get attention from younger gamers. This was an attempt to allow people who love doom and have never been able to play it because of crappy cpu's to be able to play it on their xbox360/ps3 if they have one. And it's not a waste, because doom 3 is about 15 bucks, plus the original dooms in crap conditions for a console are about 20 dollars, then comes resurrection of evil, which is say 7, and also the lost mission, which would be about 10 since it is new. your saving about 15 dollars to be honest. and if you really want doom 4, buy this, cause all funds recieved from this PORT not remake, are going towards doom 4.
I like bfg version,it has arcade/easier gameplay style,too much ammo and magazine has 600 round,smooth fps,I use command in short cut to bring old light mode,the only bad thing is the texture,I think they should release HR texture dlc for free
The new game should have had a built in coop mode. I remember it rocked on the Xbox version back in the day. Before anyone says anything yes I know some coop mods exist for Doom 3 but I would have liked a built in one.
Basically its just a tweaked version of Doom 3 tailored for younger gamers who have never played Doom 3. You can get mods that do better visual enhancements and gameplay changes. Just get Doom 3 and get the latest graphics enhancement mod and flashlight duct-tape mod.
In all honesty, its NOT worth $40. I mean u can get Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil combo pack for like $10 in the bargain bins for crying out loud and pretty much get Doom 1 and 2 for ur smartphones for like $3. Charging $40 for this is highway robbery.
Yes ! 3D.... YES !! HIGH Resolution with Higher Polygons... YES!! A Bunch of Player online to kick ass... YES!! 46' TV 1080p.... YES!!
But..... is Doom 1 and Doom 2 had been remaked? ... NO
Is it just me or does the original look better? They shouldn't have made it brighter. The original made ppl upset because of the flashlight and Darkness. Shouldn't mess with a game that paved the way for atmospheric gaming.
why they removed the dynamic shadows projected by the lights? and put so much gloom in this issue? this is ridiculous. and 90% of the gameplay of Doom 3 are 2 imps teleporting in front of you, lost the mission has not changed that even if keeps fast paced though. no big surprise there
Haven't played this in so long, I really didn't notice Rage is dang near a seqel to Doom. The weapons and animations even really similar, Rage is just an amped up version.
1- buy the orginal Doom 3 and RoE for a few bucks
2- download Sikkmod or HD textures pack
3- laugh at the people who spend 40$ for this crap
Yeah, they really shouldn't have re-released, just for the Rift. I get motion sickness from this, I'm surprised shooters made it this far like that. I wonder if it's because it runs too fast in stereoscopic 3D on my PC.
id's catching a lot of heat, bfg isn't running well on a lot of systems, doesn't seem to like openGL. id had to know a lot of people (especially nVidia) use openGL. Thing about - same people can run the original games that are included in bfg without tweaking just fine, or never had a problem with Rage (most of rage's problems affected ati but not exclusively). I guess id's taking turns and now it's time to p*ss off nVidia users. How they didn't forsee openGL as something that would need to be compatible in a modern system of the last few years is embarrassing for them. They're definately catching a lot of heat since the game is still unplayable for many users.
agree with tehwatever!!! not meant for veterans of doom. More like for those who never touched the series.Also, seeing now people complain about lack of shadows is kinda ironic because back in the day everyone was whining how dark everything is (I wasnt. I was waiting for a dark game like that). Just shows you the policies of developers in general. They unfortunatelly listen to the whiners, and those who like it "Easy", and dumb down good games."Doom 3 is too dark boo hoo!".. and so they make a new edition with few shadows.others:"Players abuse physics boo hoo!".. CS:GO comes out without any physics."Kane's Wrath is just like CNC3 but with only a few new units!"... CNC4 comes out without any economy. Look, fans, innovation!!!"Its difficult to move around as aliens in the AVP games!!!"... Aliens:Colonial Marines won't allow first person perspective to aliens, but only to marines.etc...BFG edition is probably not like the above (because its the same game bundled with older ones), but still.. hate this approach! Listening to the community must be done SMARTLY. Common sense.
look...this isn't an attempt to get old doom 3 players to revisit it again. DOOM 3 BFG is for the young pc gamers who never got to play doom 3.
It's a horror Game .., well the details in BFG look so much better .. but !!
it's not dark anymore like the old cool DOOM 3 ,.
it's so bright and not even scary like b4 .., just a while I felt he is playing Serious Sam : \
This looks almost as good as a current gen game, RAGE (I guess Doom 3's spiritual successor for now) does look better but not that much considering the 10 year difference.
I hated listening to this guy. His oration is jerky and distracting. Trying to watch the video while he is talking is hard. Dude needs to work on his public speaking.
you knw what would have made this package perfect doom1 and 2 also remastered i guess they will do that in the future ( FINGERS CROSSED )
It was great revisiting my old childhood faves doom1 and 2. Never got a chance to play doom3 until now. The only thing I'm bummed about right now is that I can't find a game on the mp. I checked the steam forums to see if others were having that problem and there are a handful of ppl that are.
You can't bind a zoom key. That's an automatic fail. The original didn't do so many "now loading" and when 2004 doom did load it was much faster. In the original you could hit any key to skip through the cut scenes. The original has better textures too. The only thing good about Doom BFG is that it made me install my original and relived some good memories.
For only $40(less with my 10% discount from work) I can get Doom, Doom II, Doom 3, Resurrection of Evil and with enhanced visuals that sounds good to me. I know what I am getting when I get off of work today. I haven't played these great games in long time, so I just can't wait to play them again.
I'd play the classic shadowy Doom 3, the one that scares the crap out of you because you can't have your flash light and gun at the same time. Yeah that's what i like :)
NOW GIVE ME DOOM 4!!!!!!!!
@raichou $20 on steam if you bought it at the right time. And it's always $30 on steam.
If you never played Doom 3 before it would make sense to play the original. Think of the original as an unedited, uncut, R rated movie, and BFG version is like the same movie only all the best parts are edited out. Point is if you are going to play Doom 3 it shouldn't be a downgraded version, you should play the way it was meant to be played. I own the original and saw a huge downgrade in textures, shadows, pretty much the very stuff that made the game great. You cannot even aim in the BFG version because they removed the ability to zoom. That option should be there. A FPS game needs a zoom key. Seems like an intentional insult to the game to remove that feature. The anti aliasing is also broken in the game, that mixed with cheaper looking textures is ridiculous and big let down to such a classic game.
@tehwatever this doesn't make sense .., they can buy it and play it anytime ..
in this way they might lose their fans to might get new fans
I know. The reviewer sucks! His flow of narration is inconsistent and his jokes are out of place. Don't anyone in GameSpot fool-proof this video? What a fail!
@MACtic1 LUCKILY WE STILL CAN SEE THE BLOOD : P
@ghstbstr I got all that stuff for 8$ many years ago on Steam, Doom 1 & 2 are enhanced as GDoom with high res and Doom 3 and RoE have awesome mods that make 'em look like a 10x times better than RAGE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAgzBTBgCeI
As long as there are people ok with paying 40$ for this crap, they have no reason to do a proper job.
We already have it, it is called duck tape.
@slicedbread117 Same, I know everyone hated that you couldn't have the flashlight out at the same time. Honestly, that's what made it so goddamn scary lol.. xD
@slicedbread117 How can a futuristic game be good if you have such an "inconvinience"? You're telling me that that thing about usability that my teacher taught me today isn't any good. Bring me something new Id Soft..........
The games loses the creepy atmosphere if you can always keep a flashlight on. Some of the best scares in the game were when it was pitch black and you got jumped by an enemy with just your flashlight out and you panicked switching to your gun. Now that that's gone, I won't be buying this game. The old one is just fine.
@Dmg051793 @slicedbread117 How can that be good? I remember FEAR where you could have flashlight allways on and you still had a nice creepy atmosphere. But really would you be in mars in a station full of monsters without the flashlight allways turned on? That's not a feature. That's poor design... It's like playing super mario but you could only jump if you stood still first. Look at Dead Space. That's how you make a creepy game without having everything picth black...