Destiny Alpha Overview
Shaun and Kevin discuss the alpha build of all three chapters from Destiny including game feel, various boss battles, and voice acting from Peter Dinklage.
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It seems a negative overview: cliches, shooting wave after wave of antagonists, other antagonists that take too long to overcome; all this puts me off such that even the positive comments in the video, such as how attractive it is to look at and Peter Dinklage's voice, are unpersuasive.
I'm tired of games that just have me going to this place and shooting these enemies, then to another place to shoot more enemies, then to another to shoot more; of games in which the enemies come in waves, as though Wave 2 is waiting round the corner for Wave 1 to be killed off, and Wave 3 sits in wait for Wave 2 to die; of games in which a whole magazine of bullets is barely enough to kill one enemy, and enemies don't even flinch when shot.
Still, it's early days, and maybe this overview is not enough on which to judge a game.
Just a quick reality check. Go to YouTube and watch again some Killzone SF gameplay videos. Not only they visually look superior, but also render in 60 FPS. Then ask yourself the question: Isn't Bungie by any chance shoving old gen down our throats?
Everybody keeps referring to killzone, I love killzone.
But killzone doesn't offer have as much as destiny is promising.
also give us a story... make the player want revenge from those F***ing alien bitches
humans have ONE CITY LEFT. ONE it goes humans go bye bye .... make the game intense ...F***K the loot don't make it the core of the game
The bullet sponge issue is the reason I'm more excited about a game like The Division than Destiny, as the combat in The Division, from what we've seen so far, appears much more tactical and teamwork oriented, rather than just spamming bullets and abilities at enemies until they go down. Shame that The Division won't be coming out for a long time yet.
Also, from what I experienced playing it myself, Peter Dinklage's talents are wasted on a role like this. He doesn't even get to express any emotion.
If the beta doesn't capture me I'll cancel my pre-order. No harm no foul. The Beta should be the Demo that makes me want more and if it doesnt well then that will be that.
That talk of bullet sponges is a little disappointing, and now Kevin's mentioned it I'm not going to be able to un-hear any cliche scripting.
Truth be told I've very little in the way of expectations for this game apart from the hype, and I don't really pay any attention to that.
@PlatinumPaladin Personally I feel the problem with their assessment is the fact they are at such low level, it's an Alpha build, and as such the gear is just crap.
I'm a huge fan of the Borderlands series, and if this comes anywhere close to that game in the scope of gear then I'm completely sold. I already preordered so I'm looking forward to the beta (xbox one player here).
And as for Shaun's assessment of Borderlands weapons and gear, he obviously didn't play the game (in my opinion). BL2 had some of the coolest weapons/shields I can remember in a game: The almighty DPUH, Sandhawk, Interfacer, SWORDSPLOSION (!!!), Norfleet, Pimpernel, the list goes on...I have really high hopes.
Bungie's claimed that this game is all about the gear and they've been pretty tightlipped but I believe they will come through.
They're talking about it like it's really amazing, but I'm not actually seeing anything particularly special on-screen.
Like it looks fun and everything, but I'm not seeing a justification for the hype yet.
Crap I missed it! I wanted to play the Alpha. Well, I'm signed up for the Beta from some pre-order I did with Gamestop.... I guess I'll have to wait for that. Wonder what the difference in the Alpha a pond the Beta will be???
@RussellMartin I'm sure the beta will be the entire game where as the Alpha was just a small part of the game. the alpha only had a few missions and one world/location (old Russia) to explore (excluding the tower which is nothing more than a social /resupply hub). and the MP only had one game type with one map.
But let's not forget who is making this game. BUNGIE. The Inventors of Baseless Hype way back on the Original Xbox! They wanted you to think Halo was God's gift to Gamers. Just like they want you to think Destiny is the only game you'll ever play. Don't buy into Bungie's Hype Machine. Play the game for yourself and form your own opinion! As for mine, I like it, but it's not the Open-World Seamless MMO they advertised. It's broken up into sections a'la Borderlands. THAT is the single most hate feature of Borderlands in my book. Don't call a game open-World when it has loading screens between each Zone...
@Andy72774 oh really?? bleergh… buildings and dungeons are ok to be sections, but…
all I ever wanted was a real open world, like from end-to-end map, like GTA or Watch Dogs/Elder Scrolls series, seamlessly, but with all the loot and galore, FPS and RPG elements Borderlands had….
How old are you?
When did you first play Halo CE?
Are you aware that it can be credited with nearly everything that is good about shooters, and videogames in general, today?
I'll let you in on a little secret: Destiny IS the only game you will ever play. It is going to be spectacular. And that is an understatement.
@origkillmachine You come out of this looking worse than he does.
thank god im not the only one who dosent like the voice or how the ai talks in this game why would they do that he dosent even sound robotic
@DemoKnight10656 sounds like a really bad actor trying to sound like an android...i dont maybe im getting too old for gaming but hoping to start seeing more intelligence in the game design and more involving story in this generation...not seeing it so far..even the graphics aren't a leap forward yet!
When I first heard to voice I thought it was my character speaking. It wasn't until I was reading impressions online that I realized it was the AI speaking.
The voice doesn't necessarily have to sound robotic. We are talking about a game that takes place in a universe where humans colonize planets and are involved in deep space exploration, as well as having the option of a race that is basically a robot. It isn't far fetched to believe that technology in this universe would be capable of having AI with human-like voices.
However with that said it could help to alter the voice a bit. Maybe even add an autotune like sound to it. It is a bit odd hearing to voice of a human coming from a robotic sphere.
I pplayed the Alpha, and I have to say, it is awesome. One thing I am getting pissed about though is all of the HYPE. Yes it's a great game, but you don't have to talk about how it'sGame of the Year already. Yeah, you see people coming into your game, but it's just regular matchmaking like any other game. It's not like it's actually an "Open-World". Just like any other game, Destiny has it's own shar of business-minded truth-bending. Think Monster Hunter with matchmaking. Not that big of a deal really. Let's all be honest...We're only getting this game because all of our friends are talking about it. If I had no friends and no life, I would probably never buy this game... lolol.
I played this for about 10 minutes and got bored..I think what put me off was the rusted Russian map where you go inside a building and them creatures are lurking in the dark and you have to put the flash light on your gun..reminded me of halo with them pod things that exploded goo when they were shot...I thought..christ. .ive seen all this before!
And why does the character do a little dance when you press the right d pad?
I soloed the devil walker once... that took a long time... with a few people all hitting it's legs generally 5 mins at most to take one down
I'm definitely going to make a Warlock. With gunplay, you can tell they looked at Battlefield a lot, it's a mix of Halo and Battlefield shooting wise, just with slightly less recoil, which is welcome because the shooting in Halo games was very monotonous and boring and imprecise.
The robust rpg mechanics are what make the game for me. Loooooooot.
I'm glad I will have the full game, since I'll be playing on PS4.
@eternal_napalm I enjoyed my time with it on PS4 and it further solidified my anticipation of the final product. The only thing I can say is I'd prefer to get it on PC just for general "future-proofiness". But yeah, warlock for me as well.
I think the robot/ghost whatever its called is meant to sound a bit emotionless. Kind of like how the android was in Aliens. Also knowing the writers im sure there are plenty of twists along the way.
Considering they have a budget of over $500 million... I'm not very impressed. Borderlands seems better than this game in pretty much every aspect I can think of.
@Tiwill44 I agree, borderlands is better in almost every way, I can't even compare graphics because borderlands has a very unique art style while this isn't unique at all. Simply put, this doesn't look like a half a billion dollar game.
@porcupine-fur got to agree its like Bungie have thought "hey lets remind our fans how great Halo was" by making a game very similar...and then gushing in their video trailers about how cool and unique its going to be..like they did in their Halo videos.. when in reality most people thought the series was going down hill..but they couldn't see it because they are so full of themselves
Looks like a Halo clone which I am not surprised to see. It's like Titanfall playing similar to Call of Duty except for a few game mechanics. And what's with those points emanating from an enemy with each bullet hit, looks like an arcade shooter?
@praneet1 Guess you have never played Borderlands. Its common in RPGs for the points to emanate from what you are attacking and or to have a damage/health meter. Its actually an excellent way to show hit detection, particularly when you are in a "Big Boss" battle s o you can tell you are actually making progress.
I watched the alpha stream of this game on my PS4 and It also remind me of the game Defiance a little
Seems like a game that's too big to fail. But truth is I didn't play the alpha, might happen to actually be good. Just can'y see any appeal in it.
I enjoyed the recent Alpha immensely. After not really being too hyped about this game I have to say that after spending around 12 hours with it I'm completely hooked. It's probably my 2nd most anticipated game of the year now.
Shooting and hit boxes we're very good and the weapon feel was fantastic. The brief glimpse of character customization available certainly whetted my appetite and the social aspect of the "shared world" was highly enjoyable. I can honestly say I was never bored or felt alone once during the alpha. The freedom in exploring what little of the game we had access to showed the amazing potential that Destiny has.
Despite only one multi-player mode being available in alpha (zone capture ) that too was amazingly well done. Controls were snappy and shooting very accurate. All players stats and damage are also equalized before matches to make it a lot more even. A level 3 character has just as much chance of wining as a level 8.
All in all I'd say the alpha did more good than all of Destiny's marketing put together. I for one thought it looked like any other generic shooter based on what i'd seen so far until I got the chance to play it. Now myself and every other player I've spoken to who played it has absolutely loved it. I urge anyone who is undecided to just drop £5 on a pre-order and give the beta a blast. I'm confident you'll enjoy it.
... Oh and just a heads up. The comment regarding the devil walker taking forever isn't really true. If you can see on the video if you shoot in in the head you do 7 damage whereas shooting the legs get you 100 and the exposed core 250 per shot. You can also shoot out it's guns etc... so If the right tactics are used the fight lasts 5 minutes only. Just a case of bad play on GameSpot's part.
@withe1982 "All players stats and damage are also equalized before matches to make it a lot more even. A level 3 character has just as much chance of wining as a level 8" Do you know the details of how this is done? At times it just didn't seem that way to me. But maybe it was just my perception and being new to the game.
The borderlands comparison wasn't really something that I thought about initially, after watching this and delving into the various gameplay videos on youtube, I can see the resemblance. I loved the first borderlands, it was a refreshing take on a genre that was firmly in the grips of the "modern day linear shooter" phenomena. I bought the DLC, played through the game more than once and shed tears over the developers sadistic streak made flesh (Crawmerax). Borderlands 2 came out and I felt kind of warn out by the nature of the game, it was a little too familiar (stale), I was a lot less enthusiastic about the prospect of returning to Pandora . I expected/expect great things from Destiny, it comes from a studio that has developed some of the most engrossing shooters, has plenty of lore and is apparently very, very vast in scale. I haven't had a chance to get my mitts on an iteration of the game yet but I am expecting great things from the beta.
Here is my brief review of Destiny alpha :
+ Addictive and fun coop, if played like a team.
+ So much to customize and buy from tower . Guns , armor , upgrades you name it !
+Blending the lines of Multiplayer and singleplayer is something that sets this game apart from all others. ( Reminds me of journey where you join other's session quietly without any notification and vice versa )
+PVP is well done .
- Need constant connection with bungie servers to play singleplayer or MP . And you can disconnect , i still dont have any idea where saves are saved , probably progress is saved on servers .
@Gomtor You'll be getting it at launch then?
@Thralll and why dont you buy it with the new bundle with destiny?
People really gotta stop comparing this to Borderlands. Not once in alpha did Borderlands come to my mind
@hellzicke LOL. It IS BLands more than anything. With a pinch of Halo, of course.
@hellzicke Borderlands was the first thing that came to mind when they finally unvailed this game and, watching this video, it really is a serious take on the borderlands premis.
@hellzicke The moment the damage numbers started popping out of the recipients of my bullets...Borderlands came to mind. I enjoy BL, bit I also like the more serious tone of Destiny too...and the absolutely stunning graphics. Very polished for an alpha.