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craziestpunk
craziestpunk

@slonekb05 This is a pre-order DLC.. so it is good to inform us who preordered it, what we are receiving, and also to motivate other user to buy this excelent game ;)

slonekb05
slonekb05

This is becoming a trend which really irritates me. Announcing DLC before the game even drops. I know there's downtime in between when game is done and when it is released but it just looks bad. Wait a few weeks till after game is out.

Devils-DIVISION
Devils-DIVISION

@Darkages04 I liked the demo. Although I don't know whether some of the key elements of the game were stripped, i.e. masking your gunshot with background explosions; disguises, etc. But perhaps you can enlighten me with more information regarding that? All in all, it seems to be a game I'll take a 'shot' with - which could keep me busy until, Max Payne is released and then subsequently Dragon's Dogma.

Devils-DIVISION
Devils-DIVISION

@Patcheeee Very true. Although the case could be made that Hitler was responsible for the most deaths indirectly caused! It is sad that Stalin's brutality is largely forgotten. But when it is remembered, it's remembered by religious nutjobs who like to attribute his barbarity to his atheism (actually he somewhat forced himself to be revered as a god through his politics) which is entirely incorrect. 30 million is somewhat of a slight exaggeration: his regime is most likely directly responsible for one third of that figure, and at least another 10 million that could be attributed as an indirect result, i.e. Lysenko's biology, famine, etc. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. I love discussing history.

Patcheeee
Patcheeee

You people are dumb.... Hilter wasnt the worst killer of ww2..... Hello EVERYBODY forgot the fact that STALIN MURDERED 30 MILLION PEOPLE......

RBwd
RBwd

i know you can shoot em in the nuts and it shows the bullet going through. if you do this to hitler does he only have 1

msvf74
msvf74

the_Great_Fall : If you absolutely knew that Hitler did not ask! I'm sorry for you

msvf74
msvf74

VercettiTommyy : I agree with you If the name Hitler was not in the game, was slightly better The Germans will not find any to defend his country's history?

msvf74
msvf74

NightLord47 !!! : Who put these words into your brain that is crazy Change your opinion !

msvf74
msvf74

hey !!!! Kill Fuhrer ???? :D :))) Hitler is not dead Was a great man I do not do this game I love Hitler Damn this game

jpnelson82
jpnelson82

IRL this was called Operation Foxley and was a British mission. The planning went pretty far before it was cancelled. It was going to be a sniper shot at the Bärkov, with for sentimental reasons a Mauser 98.

NightLord47
NightLord47

@abompro And I also said Truman and Hitler were both monsters. Tyrants in different ways. Things like them don't deserve to live.

the_Great_Fall
the_Great_Fall

@VercettiTommyy May i ask why you think it's a disgrace?

tisoyboy2
tisoyboy2

I am definitely getting this game. The AI was great compared to other sneak games. They don't auto detect when you are within a certain number of meters away like your common shooter these days. And I am a big fan of third person. I think more work is put into the game when designing character movements, cover systems and injuries. And the traps one can set are awesome! I can't wait for the retail version. And honestly, the co-op limitation to online multiplayer is a smart move as long as consumers aren't let down by a short campaign. 8+ hours would probably be needed if they want to ward off the strict competitive multiplayer fans. If they wanted to incorporate a competitive online feature, I would suggest only a cage match mode similar to that found in Call of Duty 4..... but better.

tisoyboy2
tisoyboy2

@Dawn_oF_Doom This is not a FPS.

Jim60360
Jim60360

The demo didn't really do it for me. Felt really dated.

BYOBando123
BYOBando123

@burtonboy05 - How did AC screw itself by adding MP? It's not like they took out the single player. They just added something to the game to increase longevity. I don't think the addition impacted the single player at all. AC screwed itself in refusing to move past Ezio until now. On topic, this game looks great.

VercettiTommyy
VercettiTommyy

The game seems nice, the first one was also pretty good. But the assassinate Hitler thing is a disgrace.

UltraredM
UltraredM

I played the demo. It blew my mind (no pun intended). One of the funnest games I've played in a long, long time.

ThoseSaints
ThoseSaints

Only online co-op that sucks, but I am still going to get it

burtonboy05
burtonboy05

@lazyfingers - I commend them for not putting in MP. Not every game requires MP to be successful. Assassins creed never required MP yet they screwed the game by adding it. Batman AA and Batman AC both GOTY candidates no MP and both ripping games. I hope this kicks some hole, loved the demo so I hope the end product is just as good.

Darkages04
Darkages04

Loved the original version.... (then came along all sorts of fps games) but this one took its time to release a sequel, well atlast. Has anyone played the demo which was lately released, what you guys think of it...

Dawn_oF_Doom
Dawn_oF_Doom

I'm getting kind of tired of WW2 FPS games. I think the market is truly overflooded with them. I personally wouldn't shove more money into this line of the gaming industry and by doing this, try to force developer companies to use their ingenuity and creativity to release an original product.

camverge
camverge

@ Tseng R&D my A**, are you actually a part of the military? Do you serve... probably not. Otherwise you'd know that everything is getting cut as far as well needed manpower, classrooms for training, equipment to do our job (boy I wonder why our jets are having problems?). Besides that, if there were ever a time we needed these things and we got invaded, then we'd be called ignorant for not being better prepared. EVERYTHING, not everyone has a rich mommy and daddy to pay for their schooling, so they do what they can to make a life for themselves. The real budgeting issue is our politics in general. Millions of dollars vanishing for hurricane relief, politics buying new boats, up-scaling their houses. Lets not forget a soldier has to do 20 years before he's eligible to retire, those who "serve" in office need do only 10. I love my country, but fear my government.

camverge
camverge

This is awesome! I STILL own the original Sniper Elite for xbox and was actually thinking of popping it in. Now instead I get to look forward to this instead! It's simple, yet enjoyable like its predecessor. I'm happy a game focused on campaign as opposed to slamming everything they could into multi-player. There's enough short campaigned too much multi-player games out there already!

ps2fatboy
ps2fatboy

really enjoyed the demo game should be cool

abompro
abompro

@NightLord47: Good grief are you a hypocrite. You say that compassion is the last vestige that separates us from the animals, but earlier you said you'd like to kill Truman as well as Hitler

lazyfingers
lazyfingers

Amazingly they have released this without PvP multiplayer on PS3 and xbox, thats my pre-order scrapped, a historically inaccurate DLC won't save this game now, they should have spent there time working to provide TDM instead of this:(

Jeremy473
Jeremy473

you know nothing, why would we let people die for a reason to attack back? so america knew about pearl harbor, but thought hey lets let these people die so we can fight back and lose more american lifes? Did you even graduate high school? If so Id like to know how.

Tseng
Tseng

@CharlesBurns Amen to that. In the USA, 90% of our taxes go to 'Defense', which is a blanket term for all the private R&D that goes on here. President Obama finally cut the budget, and the Army **** their pants because all of a sudden them and their retired buddies in the private sector are making less money off the average American citizen. And if you think our Defense budget isn't bloated, look at the F-22. $65 billion and not only have they never been used in combat, they are currently grounded and under investigation by the government for an oxygen malfunction (and the government just released a report saying they don't know what the problem is). Meanwhile, basic education suffers from class size increase and a cut to funding year over year, and college tuition rises 10% a semester. But our priorities aren't screwed up at all, right? :/

CharlesBurns
CharlesBurns

@ Ultra_Taco Before Pearl Harbour the USA was looking for an excuse to get involved in WW2. War is business. The USA also knew days in advance that there was a Japanese fleet on their way. They did nothing, they let the Japanese attack so that they could use it an an excuse to retaliate and try out their new Bomb. Around 100 000 people were killed at Hiroshima, 45000 instantly the rest in the next few months, not to mention the other couple 100 thousand who died over the next 20 years from radiation induced illnesses like cancer. In contrast there were about 2500 people killed at Pearl Harbour. Of those, not even 100 were civilians. Do the math. It's simple, the arms industry is the biggest industry on earth, War fuels that industry. Only the soldiers on the ground are fighting for their beliefs, the government don't care, they're in it for the money. Just do a little reading on the internet.

Vari3ty
Vari3ty

A DLC trailer? Are you kidding me? This is what gaming has become?

NightLord47
NightLord47

@Ultra_Taco I wasn't talking about who started killing civilians first because it doesn't matter. And I'm not saying it was wrong of america to join the war. I was talking about the inhumanity of murdering innocent people. And if civilians are killed it's absolutly right to go after the ones who did it, but it wasn't civilians killing civilians in the war, it was soldiers killing civilians. It's not right to kill one innocent person to avenge another innocent person is it? BTW: If you answer this, please use the "@"-thing right. No space in between, it was mere chance that I found your comment.

Ultra_Taco
Ultra_Taco

@ dxBIGBOSSxs, I agree with that rule, lol :)

Ultra_Taco
Ultra_Taco

@ NightLord47, At your comment on Japan: I really find it funny you say that it is wrong that we killed civilians to end the war because Japan were the ones that attacked us first! Killing countless civilians in Pearl Harbor, thats the whole reason we got into the War in the Pacific in WWII.

the1APerson
the1APerson

Gamers arguing about what's humane?! stop the freaking presses

NightLord47
NightLord47

dxBIGBOSSxs arguments were all focused around statistics. And he calls himself a "god debater". lol...

dxBIGBOSSxb
dxBIGBOSSxb

@Chavis02 lol. Was fun while it lasted, but in all honesty I never actually get mad at these people. He brought it on himself. First rule of the Internet, "Don't say anything political, religious, or sports related and you'll avoid looking like an idiot and getting owned by a much better debater." :)

Chavis02
Chavis02

@dxBIGBOSSxb: I think NightLord47 just rage quit. xD

NightLord47
NightLord47

@dxBIGBOSSxb I know history quite well, thank you. And Japan was not better than America in any way. But I'm not talking about what they did. There is never a reason to kill anybody who ain't fighting back, like women and children. This is about whats humane, which I understand you think is "garbage". Killing people who wants to kill you, that's war. But when you start killing those who don't fight back, it becomes murder - simple as that. Just because Japanese soldiers may have done the same it doesn't justify anyone else doing it. "You kill my mother, I kill yours?" And in your "arguments" you keep speaking in statistics half the time, so like it or not, you are being a cold-hearted, calculating machine. I'm sorry if you feel offended by the truth but If you're inclined to stand by your ideas you might as well accept that. When you have looked into the eyes of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and then detonated an atomic bomb over their heads, when you have done that YOURSELF - speak to me again and tell me if it felt humane. Until then, don't be so quick to embrace mass-murder as a solution. Now I'm done talking to a mind of stone so don't bother answering this. Goodbye.

dxBIGBOSSxb
dxBIGBOSSxb

@NightLord47 It's inhumane to end a war early so more people don't die? Sounds humane to me, even at the cost of 200,000. Also, what about the 400,000 slaughtered Philippine civilians? the Bataan Death March at over 70,000? The Rape of Nanjing at over 900,000? All by Japanese hands. where is your humanity in that culture? By their morals, it was their rightful, humanitarian duty to kill all those who don't worship under the flag of Rising Sun. The exact same type of code was used under their troops. The prisoner rate for Japan was under 1% of the Casualty rating. Why? They believed their codes of honor, under their SWORN HUMANITY as followers of Bushido, to kill themselves if ever captured, so as not to embarrass their Emperor. You don't count additional cultures form of humanity, you don't know history, and your arguments come across more as a joke than an actual, philosophical argument.

dxBIGBOSSxb
dxBIGBOSSxb

@NightLord47 OMG! Lol! I couldn't stop laughing. It's that kind of pseudo-philosophical, Liberal-Humanitarian garbage that is why idiots care about the whole Kony, despite him being around for over 20 years doing the same s*** and no one caring till now. From a machine's standpoint? Who in stupid's name just said "Truman is worse than Hitler a statement so misguided and moronic, I can't believe you honestly said that. Cost us our humanity? Thinking of the big picture?... riiiiiiiiiiight. Keep telling yourself that. If you knew ANY history, you'd know since the DAWN OF F***ING TIME, humanity has ALWAYS had conflict. 5000 years ago, people were killed. 1000 years ago, people were killed. 100years ago, people were killed. 10 years ago, people were killed. It's not "being a machine" to know history, you tool. Your "Humanity" statement may make sense to a bunch of misguided J'ak Rousseau followers. I follow the examples of Thomas Hobbes, the one who is sane, in which he clearly stated "If humanity is pure good, than why do we need keys?" You clearly don't know what you're speaking.

NightLord47
NightLord47

@dxBIGBOSSxb @Sgthombre All your arguments are solid, from a machines point of view. But all you really need to ask yourselves is this: What will all those sacrifices have been worth the day we all lose our humanity and start thinking like machines? See I AM thinking about the big picture here. Because the one thing that separates us from the animals is our ability for compassion. If we lose that, what are we?

gamingfrendly
gamingfrendly

why is he animated more like Charlie Chaplin than hitler

true_gamer007
true_gamer007

Not so impressive. Is it game from 2008 or 09? Well, it looks so!

ramyland
ramyland

...certainly it's not a realistic mission to assassinate Hitler !...passing all personal defense alone!...

Chavis02
Chavis02

@NightLord: "Are you trying to say shooting Hitler will be a bad thing?" I guess you didn't read that one. I was asking you if you are trying to say shooting Hitler will be a bad thing and I didn't say "You said it". Also you should be ashamed of yourself to not know much about this history.