A Different Kind of Strategy - Total War: Rome II

Are you a real-time strategy game fan who's never played the Total War series? Find out what kind of strategy you can expect in the latest instalment, Rome II.

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fafnir183
fafnir183

Another Best Strategy Game of the Year..

GDCalibur
GDCalibur

Can't wait for this game! Going to enjoy making Rome tremble.

jalen_222
jalen_222

Has CA bothered fixing Shogun 2 muti-player yet ?

Dawn_oF_Doom
Dawn_oF_Doom

Really good report. The others that Gamespot had were average at best, including the long one from a month ago where they showed the battle with uninformed, uninteresting presenters. 

Stevonian
Stevonian

Best report on a game I've ever seen at this site or any other.  This young lady gives a serious report (no silliness), is informed (familiar with the material), and looks professional.  Just about all of my previous comments have been frustrations with reporters who act like they live with their parents (regardless of age) and act like they've never been in front of a camera.  Hope to see more of this kind of reporting.

startman_1999
startman_1999

Nice job! This is the first informative and professional video for Rome 2 I've seen on this site.

motrebhamboly1
motrebhamboly1

Good job zorine professional and straight to the point

vadagar1
vadagar1

ROMA VICTORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

roguewave2
roguewave2

I can already smell a game of the year award!!!!

roguewave2
roguewave2

This is gonna be freaking awesome!!! I've been waiting for this game for years!!!

aminal85
aminal85

Oh it's Zorine, bonus ^_^

tonyukuk
tonyukuk

if i had a tail, it would be swinging for next 96 hours....

saltchan
saltchan

Gotta love that Okami poster in background !

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

love the tw series, but this looks like more of the exact same with a few shiny graphics pieces thrown in one of their settings that has some of the fewest unit diversities.

That and it feels so much more mainstream now and that's NEVER a good sign.

Djwolfram
Djwolfram

Release date is so close yummieeeee

duderdave
duderdave

Star Craft 2 and Command and Conquer are considered RTS games.

So is the Company of Heroes series.

Yet, they are quite different from the Total War series in many ways.

People who play SC2, C&C, and CoH, but who haven't yet tried TW games are still RTS fans. They just haven't tried the whole palette yet.

That's why a video like Zorine made here is good for people like that. It breaks things down into understandable chunks.

For example, you would be surprised how many people play TW games only on the campaign map - sometimes because they think that is how it is supposed to be played - that doing a real time battle is "just an option". It's not as obvious as you might think to a lot of people.

I remember the first time I played Shogun 1, their first game. The concept was so new I couldn't really get the hang of it at first. Some months later, I came back to it and tada, it all clicked and I have been loving TW games ever since, playing real time battles every chance I get during the campaign game.

On the other hand, I have a Civ devotee relative I gave TW to as a present who sees no point at all in doing real time battles in the campaign and consequently does not hold TW games in as high a regard as Civ - because he does not understand TW games are not really made to be played like Civ - you can, but they are not nearly as much fun.

CruiserCaptain
CruiserCaptain

Dear GOD, If I could find a girl that loved to play Rome:Total War I would marry her 100x over!

EmptySki
EmptySki

wish my laptop could run this :/


MAD_AI
MAD_AI

@Crush_Project 

Not really, they improved the AI and added joint sea and land battles among they also overhauled diplomacy and campaign map among many other things.

As for the setting, it is the one of the most unit diversity as opposed to Shogun where they're all basically from the same ethnicity i.e Japanese, here you have Roman units, Carthaginians, Greeks, Parthians etc... etc...

Also I don't see what's so mainstream about it, that's an ambiguous term is it a Starcraft 2 clone? Does it have zerg rushes? Is in an FPS now?

Boogy32
Boogy32

 They have actually created loads of new stuff. Obvisously some of the basics are staying the same, but they made a complete overhaul the combat engine for Rome 2. As to what that entails, I can not say for sure.

Not to mention army stances, army levels, combined fleet battles, new ambush battles and much more. I don't think they have ever created more new mechanics for a Total War game.

As for the whole mainstream thing. I don't think it's ever going to turn out as Call of Duty.

hastati4
hastati4

@duderdave My friend only plays Total War on the campaign map. I think he's insane and missing the most fun part of the game, but that's just his preference. He's a much bigger fan of the Civ series.


To each their own, I guess.

Sharth00
Sharth00

@EmptySki Probably can. They coded the graphical engine twice. Once for high-performance PCs, and another for older machines, and computers with integrated graphics. Check the specs, but you can probably run this!

Crush_Project
Crush_Project

@MAD_AI while I hope your right, ive seen videos where they specifically said the ai was not getting a lot of upgrades to it, but ya I hope your right.

Also the bronze age did not have that much diversity in unit types or capabilities regardless of the amount of factions..  You can make subtle differences between your units, but theres only so many differences you can do with that era.

Personally my favorites were medieval and the gun total war games that have just tons of factions AND unit diversity and options but ill have to wait for those sequels I suppose.

FakeR192
FakeR192

@hastati4 @duderdave i recommend him playing Crusader Kings/Europa Universalis or any other game from Paradox if he enjoys the campaign map so much

pal_080
pal_080

@hastati4  That's madness!  I get awful absorbed in the campaign map, but the battles are definitely the highlight of the game.  That's the amazing thing about these TW games though, they're practically 2 totally different experiences in one, and both are deep and immersive!

CruiserCaptain
CruiserCaptain

@Standing_Shadow @CruiserCaptain Ha,yeah. The only ones I ever meet are girls that "play video games" but usually it's just COD or Some other AAA title their boyfriends play... often accompanied by how their boyfriends don't like them to play with them...

It's hard being a hopeless romantic and a nerd.

Boogy32
Boogy32

@Morchild @Crush_Project @MAD_AI I agree. In shogun you'd be fighting the same 5 or 6 unit types, no matter where you were fighting. In Empire, you're biggest decision was what kind of artillery you wanted to bring. Everything else came down to Line-Infantry. And I feel like that was true for all the European nations. They have over 700 different units in Rome 2. Do not tell me that Empire and Shogun 2 are more diverse that Rome 2. :)

Also I just wanna say that this is not the bronze age. This is the Iron Age.

Morchild
Morchild

@Crush_Project @MAD_AI The bronze age might not have had heaps in weapon diversity, but it's a toss up between Rome and Medieval as to which has the most unit diversity in game. Shogun and Empire had relatively very little diversity.

Jamoid
Jamoid

@geitenvla @Jamoid It's not really extreme, I used to do exactly the same thing in an almost OCD fashion. Often in a campaign though you end up getting several battles per turn for extended periods of time, after a while of that the load screens alone start to wear on me.

geitenvla
geitenvla

@Jamoid @geitenvla I kinda know what you mean. Sometimes you just know you're gonna win and the auto resolve will turn out in decisive victory. But I never could force myself to press that button. I've had battles with remnants of my army, a lonely group of Hastati for instance that got attacked by a full force and was unable to retreat. Still I guided those men in battle. 

I might be a little extreme, but I just love the sight of my army marching the landscape and doing everything by hand.

Jamoid
Jamoid

@geitenvla @Jamoid I only auto resolve battles that are completely in my favour (which are rare until late game when you start steamrolling). The real-time part is a major component of the game - it's just not the main pull for me anymore.

geitenvla
geitenvla

@Jamoid I'm not going to tell you how to play the game, as long as you're having fun with it you're doing a good job. But what you just said is unthinkable for me. Not alone do I enjoy commanding my Roman army, but there have been many battles that would have ended in a crushing defeat if played out by the auto resolve. The opposite is true as well. Battles I easily should have won, but lost due to a bad approach on the battlefield or bad timing on my behave.

 I can't imagine playing the game solely as a TBS.  

Jamoid
Jamoid

Actually I'm kind of like that. I'm not really into RTS games anymore. I far prefer grand strategy and politics so the campaign map is the meat of the game for me.

I used to force myself to manually play every single battle but it just ends up monotonous to the point where I stop enjoying the game. Now I only command the important battles where victory isn't guaranteed.