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  • May 4, 2011 3:27 am GMT
    Just a few of my thoughts as to what I would like to see in the next installment. (excluding online improvements)

    1. I would love to see all 4 licensed Grand Slams (Wimbledon) - I know EA have the rights to this.

    2. Licensed Davies Cup - Again I know VT has this.

    3. More Male and Female professional Tennis players (Choice of Woman Tennis Players are limited/not enough)

    4. When playing at 'Dublin Open' all players should wear white attire (If this is supposed to be Wimbledon lets try to closely implement it)

    5. Realistic voices and grunts to match players.

    6. Have ball boys/girls actually move and collect loose balls.

    7. The use of challenges (Umpire and line judges to be able to make wrong decisions)

    8. Interviews Pre or Post match (multiple choice answers to give your player some personality)

    9. Sort the MPH clock out (Sometimes really fast serves don't register)

    10. Drop loading times (or at least have a mini game whilst loading)

    These are the only things that I can think of the top of my head. Feel free to add more!
  • May 4, 2011 5:48 am GMT
    Having more real players would be great, especially when going through career mode. I'm currently playing my first Masters tournaments and it feels a bit stupid still having to play made up people in semi-finals etc.

    The ball boys/girls one is a must! I have thought this myself and it would definitely add much more realism to the game. Little details like this can make huge differences.

    Also, I think the way players play needs to be changed, especially when you put the difficulty up. Sometimes you can have rallies that are 30 or so strokes, say, and every single one is a fantastically placed shot, right on the line at the back corner of the court. In real tennis, even the top players can't and don't hit shots like this all the time. As an example, in the game, if your forehand stat is 90 it will mean that nearly all your forehand shots will be perfect (so long as you hit the ball with good timing) and they will all land on the line just a couple of centimetres from being out. If your forehand is low, you can barely ever hit shots close to the line, they will always be a good bit in court. What I'm trying to say is, if you have a high stat for these attributes then it should mean that you have a higher chance of hitting perfect shots, not just mean you do them all the time. Even Federer and Nadal should be able to hit an unforced error slightly too long or wide now and again, but at the moment that never happens.

    As well as this:

    More outfits for real players

    The ability for the CPU to be able to use your created players
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  • May 4, 2011 7:34 am GMT
    These are great suggestions!

    Sadly, this will never happen for any tennis video game. There just isn't enough of a market. The only way we'll get our dream tennis game that reaches Madden-level realism is if some super-rich tennis fan is willing to take a loss paying for the development of The Perfect Tennis game.

    Honestly, they would simply need to take 2kCzech's engine and just build around it. License everything. Improve the graphics. Simulate what it's like to be a REAL tennis player as closely as possible! Give us Challenger and Futures tournaments! Let us go through Qualifying to get into Grand Slams if we're not ranked high enough! These are all little things that we're just simply not going to see in a tennis game, because the people making it either don't care about tennis, or they simply don't have the time/money to implement all those things.

    It's a bit depressing, because it could be totally epic.

    -Arvis
  • May 5, 2011 4:17 pm GMT
    do yall think 2k will even make another top spin game with only 80k sales worldwide?
    http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/47182/top-spin-4/
  • May 5, 2011 7:28 pm GMT
    I think the environments need to be a factor -- wind and temperature, night matches, etc. Tennis games also have to take spin seriously. I like TS4 but a slice in TS4 is just a low ball you can place well and a top spin is just a high bouncing ball. Heavy top spin should push your opponent back! Developers should look at the classic matches of the past -- like the Hingis / Capriati AO in 130 degree heat or the Evert - Seles USO where Seles hit top spin that went over Evert's head into the stands (Evert destroyed Seles in that match though). Etc.

    Definitely white clothing at the "Wimbledon." Also, I think they could make a feature that allows you to design your strokes and grip. For example, it's tough to pick up a low ball with those big Western grips everyone uses these days, and loopy strokes should be harder to time. As for grunts and strokes on pros, they need to get one or two PRO players to do the motion capture like Konami did in WTA Tour Tennis. There's a TON of potential in tennis games that isn't being used. But TS4 is still pretty good.
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  • May 9, 2011 10:27 am GMT
    I agree with a lot of the posts. Though I think weather would make this too much of a Sim for the casual buyer. Here's my suggestions:

    -Not nearly enough pro players, I don't really care about the Legends, because only only half the roster is included during the actual Tournaments. We need important players in this game, no Delpo, Soderling, Ferrer, heck..they don't even have some of the pro's they had in previous games in this one! Ala Monfils, Berdych to name a few.

    -Make the tournaments longer, my 2nd round match in a grand slam shouldn't be the Quarterfinals

    - My god more outfits, I know it's not necessary but I want to wear what the pro's are wearing. Some of the stuff is 2 years old, for instance ALL of the Nike clothes.

    -Accurate venues, for example make Cincinnati look like Cincinnati's courts.

    -Make the crowd even livelier

    -The slice's look and feel great, the same can't be said about Topspin. I expect to do something Nadal does, spin the ball around the court and just tag the line. Now that would be amazing. Ala banana shot, DO IT.

    -Less made up stadiums/venues and more real ones, that are actually played on Tour. But keep the made up ones for when you're progressing to get to the pro circuit.

    -More hairstyles, more bandanna and wristband selections as well.

    -I want to see more sweat on clothes. Yeah, it's still in the game but it doesn't look that great. My guy at the end of a 5 set match still looks like he did before we started.

    - More outfits for the actual named players

    -It would be great if the Chair Empire could pronounce the pro player's name's correctly.

    Sorry about run-on's, I just had my wisdom teeth out and I'm still loopy from the Vicodin. I still have a lot more suggestions.
  • May 9, 2011 2:22 pm GMT
    Its kind of funny, a lot of the complaints (about past/present games) and suggestions for future tennis games have been the same for as many years as I can remember.

    Unfortunately Arvis hit the nail on the head, tennis games just don't garner the same market and exposure level as a Madden or FIFA game. This in turn limits what each developer can do with each game. Licensing is also very different, because there is no players association like in other professional sports, which makes including bigger player rosters near impossible. I'm not quite sure about tournament licensing but Scolly is correct afaik (although things may have changed in the last 2 years idk) about EA having access to Wimbledon (it was in GST on Wii after all).

    The only solution I myself as a huge tennis fan/player have found to fulfill my video game fix is to play the older games with more refined fundamentals (as far as tennis games go). For me these include thigns like ball physics, player/court size proportions (whereas players aren't too unrealistically big/small compared to court size) and player variation (goes back to physics kind of, I hate the newer gen games where every player is the same and how they hit the ball is the same, I want Nadal's shots to have more topspin ya know?).

    The only two games that satisfy all the things I just listed are Final Match Tennis and Hot Shots Tennis: Get a Grip. The main difference between the two is AI difficulty. I've been ranked in the top 50 in the world in TS2 and GST (approx., higher in the former and lower the latter) and Final Match Tennis ai is better than most players in the world, no joke.
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