there is no illuminati... the reason you hear about so many "super famous zomg" members is because it was all an invention of some random ass french con artist-- who admitted to the whole damned thing. but w/e, conspiracy theorists will always hypothesize i suppose.
Game director Ragnar Tornquist discusses the Illuminati secret society in Funcom's next massively multiplayer game.
Norwegian studio Funcom has created such games as Anarchy Online and Age of Conan. The studio is now working on The Secret World, a game that focuses on modern-day occultism and the ancient secret societies that have risen to save the world from a new threat. Previously, we brought you more information about the Dragon faction and a new video trailer for that secret society. This time out, game director Ragnar Tornquist discusses the wealthy Illuminati society.
GameSpot: Give us an idea of the combat specialties of Illuminati characters. We haven't yet seen them in action in any trailers or screenshots, though we understand the secret society controls the world's wealth. Will this wealth carry over to Illuminati weapon loadouts and equipment? What kinds of weapons and combat skills will characters of this secret society possess?
Ragnar Tornquist: The Illuminati certainly have cash to spare, and the society knows how to use it--though it may not look that way. Not on the surface. They're not flashy, not when it comes to the serious business of ruling the secret world. When it comes to weapons, you'll find the Illuminati headquarters being very well protected--in every possible way--and some of this high-tech equipment will certainly be available to initiates…as long as they've proven to be loyal to the illuminated path. Nothing comes for free in their world. Everyone needs to prove their worth, climb the ladder, stab a few backs--you know, private enterprise.
What kinds of weapons, you ask? Big shiny guns that go "boom." Stainless steel and black plastic. And gas masks, of course. The Illuminati are all about gas mask chic.
GS: Since we know The Secret World is all about occult legends come to life, what kinds of otherworldly powers will players from the Illuminati secret society possess? Can you give us some specific examples?
RT: The Illuminati believe in controlling magic. They don't like things they don't understand. The occult has to be quantified and contained, researched and refined, and synthesized if possible. Manufactured. Stored. The Illuminati will have some fun toys to play with. Dangerous toys. Toys that sizzle and erode the divide between worlds.
GS: We understand that members of the Illuminati secret society are lousy with power and wealth. How do these ruthless and domineering characters approach quests and conversations? Will they have extra cash to bribe informants? Will they have additional "connections" to provide them with bonus information that other secret societies can't access?
RT: Players will definitely get a feel for how the Illuminati operates in the story mission--including connections unavailable to other players--and they'll get to tap into that vast wealth and unchallenged network of puppets and puppeteers. Being a member of the Illuminati, you'll get to go behind the scenes and see how this world is run. And it ain't pretty. But being Illuminati isn't about the pretty; it's about doing or getting done. And the Illuminati? They're not done.
GS: What sort of player will most enjoy playing as an Illuminati character?
RT: I think anyone who loves to work hard, party harder, play with expensive gadgets, and listen to industrial music in deserted factories will appreciate the Illuminati way of life. As well as anyone who believes that secret societies should remain secret and not wave flags around, wear leather boots, and parade about like those damn Templars do.
GS: Finally, is there anything else you'd like to add about this secret society?
RT: The most intriguing thing about the Illuminati is how they operate--behind the scenes, never in the limelight. They believe in pulling strings, in bribing and blackmailing the people behind the people in charge. Senators, senior advisors, board members… They're careful, subtle, but at the same time they really know how to use their power and to enjoy their wealth. They're bad guys and girls, they're sexy, and they're tons of fun.
So... is this based off of the real life Illuminati society? Or is it completely unrelated to that all together?
@Spartan-1657 No the Da Vinci Code is a lie. But if you would search some more info about it you would understand. The illuminati are the highest order of the freemasonry. They merged in 1776. They are also called "the skull and bones order"
ragnar need to remember the greatness that is The longest Jouney and MAKE DREAMFALL CHAPTERS i hope this games is finished quickley so some work can be done on Dreamfall Chapters
All you guys getting into internet arguments on GAMESPOT are retarded. Go find real people to argue with. If you're not actively surrounding yourself with people at your same level of intellect who disagree with you, then you are sheltered. Arguing online makes you all look really stupid.
@iufan_4life Now stop calling me blind when you made a false assumption and based your entire argument on that. when all i said about you to begin with was that you were talking out of your ass. and in every single response to me, until the last, you have not ONCE made an effort to prove what ever point you were trying to make when i called you out. all you did was shoot down my argument... that you didnt even understand? and wasnt even directly relevent to what you were saying to begin with. maybe you didnt realize youve been agreeing with me 4 times now, but you are, and maybe if you listened instead of assuming every one is an idiot you wouldve caught that. You keep assuming im an idiot when you clearly had no idea were i was coming from. and you know nothing about my intelligence. you claim to seek knowledge and tell every one to do research, yet you based the entirety of my character on a single forum post? that you made a false assumption on its meaning? i guess that technically makes you the fool here doesnt it?
@iufan_4life first off i DID quote you exactly the 1st time i responded to you. and you were agreeing with me. Youve just proceeded to deny it 3 times after that. and ive gotten tired of you saying the same thing several times in each post only worded slightly different without ever proposing any back-up as to why you are saying the things are, until your last post. second of all you are completely mis understanding my argument and point of view to begin with. you made the assumption that "worry about the fun things" as i put it, that i meant "worry to get stressed out". Now I was referring to some one elses comment, not yours, and they were talking about how people put too much value in what entertains us. Knowing what to wear is just an example and it could have been a million other things. Its different for every one. (and unless your suggesting you go to work naked you worry about what to wear and dont try to deny it.) I have never said stress makes a good life. i was using the word "worry" in the form of "caring". as the original poster had meant it to mean. And i can know he meant that because of things he proceeded to say after. people "worry" about their clothes and their entertainment but not because its stressful. thats completely illogical. and i never suggested that. they do it because they care about those things. and you clearly agreed with that idea when you stated "happy holidays" if not having a registered gamespot account isnt enough proof you value those "fun" things, or in other words, what entertains us.
@Epicurus-Reborn You should just stop man. Your intelligence, or lack thereof is really showing. You really going to keep rehashing the same thing that I agree with you? ARE YOU THAT BLIND? I have never agreed with you. I do not believe worrying about things makes life good. Worrying about things only adds stress to ones life. To much stress is not good. Does that mean people can do away with worrying about things in life? Unfortunately no! People are going to worry, but about little things ?making life good?? Foolish to think or otherwise do so. You do know you cannot quote someone if you are not quoting them right? If you are going to quote me then quote me, but don't add sh*t in and contort things to suit your mind. People know things by people learning and sharing. Thus people looking into for themselves and learning and sharing. If something doesn't peek ones interest then they can decide to not look into. Common sense man! My point for copying a quote from George Bush Sr was to show the person "Cyph1334" that said "You are all idiots If you belive in a NWO and even stupider if you belive that an NWO could possibly exsist in the real world" was an asinine statement. The "New World Order" is an initiative of the "Elite". All people have to do is their own research. I am not a teacher, I can only guide. You can choose to heed or not. As for how you are a fool? Well, here is the definition- fool; "One who is deficient in judgment, sense, or understanding". Enough said!
@iufan_4life for some one who seeks worldly knowledge and claims to know more than most you sure dont listen. This is the third time youve responded, agreed with what i had to say, claim im ignorant, and then denied i had any argument. are YOU seriously that ignorant? do you follow any form logic when you type?? " every one should enjoy life is common sense... but you have no argument, and its illogical to enjoy life and im not agreeing with you" that is the meaning of what you just said. three times now. Am i the only person here who sees the hypocrisies of this logic??? This is unbelievable. OK mr. Iufan for life, if you know so much about the world, what is your point? how am i a fool? what false hood am i ignoring?? so you can copy quotes famous people have said and paste them. big deal! what is you point?? my argument has been from the beginning life is good because we can worry about what entertains us. in other words, we can enjoy the little things. So tell me oh wise guru of world peace, how am i wrong? and what the hell have you done to make things better other than spew nonsense. @Pokletu I cannot believe you are falling for this crap. Does any one actually think for themselves these days? iufan for life has been nothing more than a miniature senator mcCarthy.
If you have any inkling of the scale of these issues, your questions should then become where does your soul belong. I believe that the "cowardly, the unbelieving..." will not find themselves where I want to. This subject all leads up to some hard questions for yourself, once you have an understanding of them. Epicurus, if you want some proof, find it. Here's some sites for you, even: www.Prisonplanet.com; www.infowars.com. Search youtube, while there's still stuff available on it. Spend just a half hour on this stuff researching every time before your gaming session. you have the time, based on your post frequency. Trust me, when you finally get it, you'll WANT to just crawl back into your safe little gameworld. I did, about 2 years ago. All I did was game when I got home, and my heart would pound when I heard helicopters at night, when these scumbags do their work. Now, I'm letting my freinds know. Preparing food rations for my family. Learning how to REAL LIFE combat. Love. For you, just man up and look at the links you've been spoon fed, and God bless you; and join the fight to save your own life, and maybe even your soul.
Well, I hate getting into arguments, but another voice crying in the wilderness may save one curious soul. /Donning flame-retardant suit, now... I'll split this up in two parts. If TL;DR, well, your loss... I would like to think, since we're not really getting much gameplay samples, that the REAL mission here is to wake an audience up that they have access to. Whether this has a stamp of approval from these people is hard to say. If so, they may have really opened a pandora's box against themselves. Computer gamers are, loosely speaking, an active-learning, literate audience who'll research something that's piqued their interests. I hope that's what they're up to, anyway; but not just them. Anyone played the Half-Life series? There's mention of "Our Benefactors"; "The One Free Man"; sleazy high-science being conducted without accountability at taxpayer expense... There are good people, like iufan4life, pablo, in the forum; but elsewhere. Making a difference. Doing Something. Telling people. Fighting with words. I've written congressmen(Chakka Fattah in my area) to fight legislation designed to take us down. We're NOT just gamers. It's so easy to become educated on this stuff. Just type in some search terms in the search field on top of this window, while there's still a relatively- free internet. Look up those faction names. Where'd the name Illuminati come from? Who's light are they shining? Who's the Lightbearer?
@Epicurus-Reborn Are you seriously that ignorant? I mean, ?people need to enjoy life? is common sense and yet you are trying to use me saying this as agreeing with you? You suggest people should worry about little simple things and that makes life good. You seem to not have any common sense whatsoever. It is quite funny how you keep trying to make a case, however it is obvious you have nothing to make a case for. You keep fishing for anything and making asinine statements that you suggest I keep agreeing with you. It is quite interesting? Start worrying what to wear tomorrow and how to get to a next level on a game. Hmm, wonder how you can contort this in your mind to me agreeing with you again? Let?s hear it? Oh well? Stay a fool man, stay a fool?
@iufan_4life "people need to enjoy life" you just agreed with me again. lol. Could you be any more inconsistent? and if you want people to know whats going on in the world you have to leave it to them to seek it. people arent going to care more about something just because you tell them they need to. if anything you'll push them away from w/e "knowledge" your trying to spread. And yes this is gaming site. No duh. so spread your propaganda B.S. elsewhere. and way to be a stubborn hypocrite and continue to agree with my argument you claimed i didnt have. Really helps your credibility.
@Epicurus-Reborn lol You don?t! Thank you for again proving that... You are fishing here and catching nothing. I never said I didn't play games, celebrate holidays, watch TV., listen to music. etc... I can and do so, but in a state of mind in which I recognize that of what is happening and going on. Most cannot! It should be obvious to you "dumbass" that this is a gaming site. Which gamers come here correct? That's right! Also, most people celebrate Holidays? To wish people a "Happy Holidays" and to say "good gaming to all" is to be kind and wish good fun to everyone. Which I am for. People need to enjoy life. People also should know what is going on in the world. Don't be afraid to seek, learn, and know. Research yourself! Knowledge is power. The more people that care the better... I again wish everyone a HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON. Stay safe and well and enjoy the time with your families. So many in this world will not be fortunate to do just that.
@iufan_4life lol you end your statement with "happy holidays and good gaming to all" way to contradict yourself and every thing you just said about me not bringing anything to table. by expressing your joy about gaming and this holiday season, the biggest consumer time in the entire year, you just agreed with my argument. way to prove my point dumbass and then tell me "i dont know s**t"
@Entropy730 Well, for the most part I'm quite curious to learn or hear about these truths that you and pablo are quick to mention that you know and so many are blind to, but have yet to reveal... And you give movies waaay too much credit. Yes, movies and entertainment can influence you, but here's the catch - you have (Or, at least, are supposed to have) morals and values that are your own. And humans have a unique ability to reason... Hypothetically, if someone copied the acts of Scream (If you saw the first one), the movie gave him the idea but that's where the influence stopped. From that point onward it was his own decision to act on it. People are quick to blame movies/tv/music/games for some truly horrible things that have happened. But they forget that the perpetrators made the DECISION to do those unspeakable acts. That decision could only happen if their personal "moral compass" would allow it, and we all know who is responsible for the groundwork of any child's moral compass: the PARENTS... But mommy and daddy are too busy living their own lives, so they depend and rely on tv/movies/etc to raise their kids. You want to fix the world, fix these kind of parents, bring back the idea that "motherhood" and being a mom and at home with your kids is a highly respectable "career", not something looked down upon as it currently is. But the most important thing to remember, is you have a CHOICE. Killing someone is a CHOICE, stealing is a CHOICE. I know this is nothing to do with you but I am so sick of hearing excuses of murderers who chose to kill someone for their cellphone... and the public listening to his ****
@Epicurus-Reborn I?m talking out of my ass?..Y.. My ass must be pretty smart, huh?..O.. I guess that makes me a smart ass!..U.. Quotes from ones own mouth?..D.. Georgia Guidestones- ?500,000,000??..O.. What did you even state that was of value?..N.. Worrying about things is what makes life good?..T.. Are you serious? ..K.. That?s it?..N.. That is all you got?..O.. You absolutely brought nothing to the table. Oh, but I am talking out of my ass?..W.. Well, it?s pretty clear here who is talking out of their ass..S.. I do the research and spend the time to learn and know the things that I can know that is going on in the world. I don?t pretend to know everything, but I know a hell of a lot more than most. How is that you ask?..H.. I put the time in to learn and know? I don?t listen and go by what I am told, rather learn for myself. What do you do?..I.. Go ahead and make it sound good. Easy to do when one is behind a computer. Really doesn?t matter what you say after your post, you have nothing of value to offer in the form of debate. Rather you will just say something stupid like, worrying about things is what makes life good...T.. It is good to see there the few on here that SEE what is there to be seen? Happy Holidays and good gaming to all.
@pablodude, You are right that entertainment does effect people's minds. They often release true scientific information in Sci-fi movies so that if for example, I came up to you and said, "I used to work at Area 51 and we worked on stargates etc", then you would say, "Stargates?! You took that from stargate sg-1!" To them you're either a liar, or crazy. That's the point. They also demoralize societies for political reasons. Watch a movie from 50 years or more ago. Example: Gone With The Wind... Now watch one from last year: Superbad.. You could say in defense of the idea that history is out of everyone's control, that over time people change and that's why Superbad came out. People from our generation are a market for that type of humor and blah blah etc. But if you tell me that the kid's from Superbad's behavior is acceptable for anyone, then you are yourself, demoralized and desensitized by the disgusting, crude, insecure, and hating negative way we speak to eachother now. And movies helped make it all come true on a national - even worldwide scale
@pablodude, I know what your saying brother dont let the ignorant get you down. You're so young and you already know so much. Granted, there isn't enough room and time to go over the little details of everyone's theories, philosophies and understandings of the way the world works.. I know you aren't making too many friends here... and from the way you are speaking about it, I can tell you are still angry at them for not wanting to learn what you understand, and see what you see. Learn to forgive them and accept them. Some day soon, this economy will be in shambles and people will go crazy. Well, after some time, when there are many suffering, you will still be here. You knew, and told others, what would happen. It will then be your task, with the faith put in you by your peers, to bring our world back towards the light.
@pablodude, I actually think you are too far gone, to be honest. Everything you mention that you're sick of is actually purely human emotion and instinct. "Keeping up with the Joneses" is more commonly referred to as ambition and desire to improve yourself. It's a personal decision to do so, that's why you see lazy bums who don't give a crap but also go nowhere. This goes hand-in-hand with focusing on your 9-5 (Though, being 14, do you have ANY idea what that means?). "What music to listen to" I'm taking as a blanket statement to include "What entertains you". Also a personal decision, and proof of that being the vast amount of musical genres, movie genres and series' themes. Did someone tell you or influence you to like a good horror flick? No, you like it or you don't. You sound like you're a non-confirmist, but have you considered the irony of that? You have effectively conformed to not conform to "mainstream" society. When people turn right, you turn left - not out of a personal decision or desire, but purely so you "don't conform". How does that make you any different from the "blind conformists"? You talk about uniting and changing the world - what do you want to change? And what is your truth that you apparently know?
@bennae66 you are too far gone to realize what is going on. you are so infused with the technological era to realize the cliff you are about to jump off of. we have gone without technology for thousands of years, but in a few decades, people are so fixated on their tv, music, internet, they dont realize the world around them can entertain them just as much as their tv or computer, maybe even more, yes we can chage everything, if people beleive they can, do you even realize whats been done in history if people wanted change and they alone couldnt bring about it, im 14 and i probably know more history than most ppl my age, so yea keep ur rules, keep ur conformism, i dont care i know the truth, so stick that in ur pipe and smoke it!
Uwe Boll, remove the Ragnar Tornquist disguise! It will be that no one will like Tornquist games just as no one likes Uwe Boll films!
@pablodude: i dont think much will be done in our lifetime. to turn back hundreds, thousands of years of careful planning and incredibly intrictate manipulation from deep within the core of our civilization wont be unravelled like a ball of string any time soon. besides: i like my internet. i like my media, i like my computers. while we plug in happily we participate. we obey the laws of our countries, we participate. so i say, roll with it (tho i understand many would think this inherently evil) we have it much better than some.
shame i hate mmo's. this is probably the first game that i wet my pants over but will never play, never look at, never buy. i guess to get my fix, im going to have to wait for deus ex 3 instead.
these guys have done some homework. uncanny resemblances to real life societies. @smolle i wish i had your view on the world. things would be alot simpler
Wow one of the most unrevealing interviews I ever read, guy just reiterates the trailer with no insight into gameplay.
Illuminati exist in this world. They spread their influence by using entertainment. They have work their plan long before this modern era. Whoever said they don't exist they're living in denial. The proof is blatant before our eyes.
@smolle Thank you so much for that comment. For a second there I had forgotten that this is only a GAME. You made everything so much clearer. (end sarcasm)
There are no Templars, illuminati, Gods, Demons or Aliens on this planet today....... only overactive Human imagination and colorful excuses for why we do evil things.
@pablodude unite to do what?? no matter what people do, every one dies someday. whether your the biggest saint on earth or the worst serial killer ever. And being able to worry about fun things like what to wear and what games to play and listening to music are what make life good. now how on earth would not caring about these things make the world better in any way shape or form?? and how can you "Agree" with iufan_4life, hes talking out of his ass. who cares about subliminal messaging. Every one has the power to make their own decisions. end of story.
N the whole point of the Illuminatis is to freck ppl out and make look crazy.....so chill and live ur live....so they smart to do bad stuff but cant hide their own tracks?!?!?! ...we re gamers so wtf r we gonna do about this unproved siuatition....Fu*k youtube....just go to the woods and look at nature and say to yourself why??????? if sh*t does happen dont u think alot of ppl r gonna rebel when i goes down anyways
who is the green and red soppose to be?....i got history on Illuminatis and thats it but the others?
@ iufan 4life, finally someone who actually knows the situation. both statements are true and i am tired of people who have a blindfold over their eyes and cant see the truth ahead of them, i am sick of everyone concentrating on their 9 to five, what music to listen to, what to wear, the whole 'keeping up with the joneses' bullcrap. when everyone awakens from their ignorance and blindness only then can mankind unite and the world will finally be a better place, but as of right now, that seems uncertain
i think ill have to pick these guys... only by default. One side is far too arrogant and the other far too hypocritical. As strange as it is, these illuminati seem to be the most honest or "real" of the 3. And thats all i really value in faction, other than being a total B.A. of course.. but all 3 seem to have that going.
Scandalous isn't it!?!? ^^ Game bout interesting theme of discuss between some ppl - its rly wtf and exciting at the same time - im looking forward to this :)
Seriously, who the f**k keeps giving everybody thumbs down? Anyways, I think the notion that the illuminati worship the devil is ridiculous. It would be the perfect contrast to the whole "One Nation, Under God" thing, but it's just...Illogical... And seriously: calm down. Sure the Illuminati have a lot of influence, but I see nothing wrong about making a game with them. Have you never played Deus Ex. The ending has a group admitting to be the Illuminati. And the time period of the game...It's seems to be where the world is in a sort of apocalyptic situation, where there prominence would be accordingly increased. I mean...We ask from developers: "More realism, more more more", and then they give it to us an we're like "No that's too real!!"... And even if you see them as "evil", Ninjas are badass...But they killed and followed orders without question. They were "brainwashed" from early childhood and driven to their very breaking point. Almost every last shred of humanity was stripped from them. They we're quite literally killing machine with hearts colder than ice...But they're still cool right? Of course they are. Lighten the f**k up.
@Lcmy Seriously? This game isn't based on the Illuminati lol. Are you insane? It's just a faction! IN A GAME!! Also, the origins or Dragons and everything else have been known for hundreds of years? Are you high? You are the same type of person who prolly believes that the Da Vinci Code is real fact.
I cant decide between Templar or Illuminati. Because I like the history of the Templar's, but I always like the government and wealth controlling of the Illuminati just like The Bartimaeus Trilogy
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