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- Jul 2, 2012 10:08 pm GMTAre they trying to discourage people from actually playing this game?
I mean, what the heck. Actually seems sort of interesting but I have absolutely no way of telling if it will be any good or even how the hell the game plays without forking $60.
Shame.
*correction: $50.
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Xbox GT: Ian Bits - Jul 2, 2012 10:09 pm GMTI have yet to see an MMO have a free trial at launch. Star Wars: The Old Republic? No trial. Aion? No trial. Rift? No trial. And those are just MMO's that come to mind.
Besides, there WAS an open beta. Best chance you had for a free trial for now. - Jul 2, 2012 10:10 pm GMTSo... How many MMOs do you know of that offer a free trial before they even launch?
- Jul 2, 2012 10:17 pm GMTI'm obviously not looking for a free trial NOW, I'm looking for a free trial when the game actually releases, which isn't going to happen.
I'm not massively familiar with the MMO market. I know for a fact if you're asking more from a consumer (in terms of a commitment to pay a sub fee to continue playing the game), you have to prove something to the consumer. What the hell has this game proven? It's a new IP, it's claiming to do things differently but there's no god damn way for the consumer to tell without dropping $50 and paying a sub fee. Considering how oversaturated the MMO market is at this point, that's practically suicide. I can't even fathom the launch of this game being that successful unless the reviews are out of this world.
I know Diablo III isn't an MMO but it included trial versions in the copies of the retail games. (Yes, I'm using DIII as a positive example, crazy I know) That's a brilliant idea because you're basically allowing people who liked the game enough to buy it recommend it to their friends and allow their friends to try it out as well. Why couldn't this game do that? What's stopping it?
Yes, I'm sure months down the line will see trials, price drops, etc., but isn't the launch when you want to get people on? When the most people will be active, when you'll get into things like guilds that will be what keeps you paying the sub fee?
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Xbox GT: Ian Bits - Jul 2, 2012 10:19 pm GMTBTzz posted...
I'm obviously not looking for a free trial NOW, I'm looking for a free trial when the game actually releases, which isn't going to happen.
I already countered your point.
I'm not massively familiar with the MMO market. I know for a fact if you're asking more from a consumer (in terms of a commitment to pay a sub fee to continue playing the game), you have to prove something to the consumer. What the hell has this game proven? It's a new IP, it's claiming to do things differently but there's no god damn way for the consumer to tell without dropping $50 and paying a sub fee. Considering how oversaturated the MMO market is at this point, that's practically suicide. I can't even fathom the launch of this game being that successful unless the reviews are out of this world.
I know Diablo III isn't an MMO but it included trial versions in the copies of the retail games. (Yes, I'm using DIII as a positive example, crazy I know) That's a brilliant idea because you're basically allowing people who liked the game enough to buy it recommend it to their friends and allow their friends to try it out as well. Why couldn't this game do that? What's stopping it?
Yes, I'm sure months down the line will see trials, price drops, etc., but isn't the launch when you want to get people on? When the most people will be active, when you'll get into things like guilds that will be what keeps you paying the sub fee?
TheUndeadSteak posted...I have yet to see an MMO have a free trial at launch. Star Wars: The Old Republic? No trial. Aion? No trial. Rift? No trial. And those are just MMO's that come to mind.
Besides, there WAS an open beta. Best chance you had for a free trial for now.
And you know that there are YouTube videos, right? - Jul 2, 2012 10:20 pm GMTIf you judged MMOs by youtube gameplay there wouldn't be a single one worth playing.
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Xbox GT: Ian Bits - Jul 2, 2012 10:30 pm GMTBTzz posted...
If you judged MMOs by youtube gameplay there wouldn't be a single one worth playing.
You can still see what quests are like, you know.
Also, you missed your chance at what pretty much amounted to a free trial, namely: The open beta. - Jul 2, 2012 10:38 pm GMTTheUndeadSteak posted...
BTzz posted...
If you judged MMOs by youtube gameplay there wouldn't be a single one worth playing.
You can still see what quests are like, you know.
Also, you missed your chance at what pretty much amounted to a free trial, namely: The open beta.
Because "you missed your chance, come back in a few months" is a good way to sell a game.
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Xbox GT: Ian Bits - Jul 2, 2012 10:51 pm GMTBTzz posted...
TheUndeadSteak posted...
They're being better about it than other MMO's. The ones I listed waited months before putting in a free trial.BTzz posted...
If you judged MMOs by youtube gameplay there wouldn't be a single one worth playing.
You can still see what quests are like, you know.
Also, you missed your chance at what pretty much amounted to a free trial, namely: The open beta.
Because "you missed your chance, come back in a few months" is a good way to sell a game. - Jul 2, 2012 10:53 pm GMTI'm not sure what you're trying to say, because you already admitted a lack of familiarity with the MMO market.
Expecting entire markets to behave differently is sheer insanity.
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Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Jul 2, 2012 10:59 pm GMTSeraphLance posted...
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, because you already admitted a lack of familiarity with the MMO market.
Expecting entire markets to behave differently is sheer insanity.
Expecting companies to do logical things even if logical things aren't the norm isn't exactly insanity.
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Xbox GT: Ian Bits - Jul 3, 2012 3:46 am GMTBTzz posted...
I'm obviously not looking for a free trial NOW, I'm looking for a free trial when the game actually releases, which isn't going to happen.
I'm not massively familiar with the MMO market. I know for a fact if you're asking more from a consumer (in terms of a commitment to pay a sub fee to continue playing the game), you have to prove something to the consumer. What the hell has this game proven? It's a new IP, it's claiming to do things differently but there's no god damn way for the consumer to tell without dropping $50 and paying a sub fee. Considering how oversaturated the MMO market is at this point, that's practically suicide. I can't even fathom the launch of this game being that successful unless the reviews are out of this world.
I know Diablo III isn't an MMO but it included trial versions in the copies of the retail games. (Yes, I'm using DIII as a positive example, crazy I know) That's a brilliant idea because you're basically allowing people who liked the game enough to buy it recommend it to their friends and allow their friends to try it out as well. Why couldn't this game do that? What's stopping it?
Yes, I'm sure months down the line will see trials, price drops, etc., but isn't the launch when you want to get people on? When the most people will be active, when you'll get into things like guilds that will be what keeps you paying the sub fee?
Not sure if trolling or just really negative about the game. This is how MMO's work and they don't have to give us that. It could just be here's a game buy it or don't. As another poster said all MMO's (now at least) have betas in the months, or sometimes years, leading up to release. Normally there are about 4 for you to try not including closed betas. Then the game release where you have to pay $50~$60 which also includes a free month of game time. Now if you think that's unfair lets look at console games. Not all of them have demos and there are more then their fair share of new IP's. They also run $60 though most don't have a recurring bill cycle. So what you do is you buy the MMO and in that first month decide if it's worth paying more for it. If it is then rather then having to spend $60 each month or every couple months you can just spend $15 for an ongoing game. Why is that so bad?
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In this moment, this is me at my most masochistic ~ Bill (The Snake Charmer) - Jul 3, 2012 7:23 am GMTBTzz posted...
Are they trying to discourage people from actually playing this game?
I mean, what the heck. Actually seems sort of interesting but I have absolutely no way of telling if it will be any good or even how the hell the game plays without forking $60.
Shame.
*correction: $50.
Kinda like every other MMO? I don't understand these topics.
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(Insert uber computer specs here) - Jul 3, 2012 9:32 am GMTThere will likely be a free trial later when the game is more stable/polished or they start bleeding subscribers.
The launch I've heard is still buggy and unpolished. If they gave you a trial now, it might turn you off and cost them sales. - Jul 3, 2012 9:34 am GMTTheUndeadSteak posted...
I have yet to see an MMO have a free trial at launch. Star Wars: The Old Republic? No trial. Aion? No trial. Rift? No trial. And those are just MMO's that come to mind.
Besides, there WAS an open beta. Best chance you had for a free trial for now.
Didn't WoW include a few 7 day guest passes in the box? - Jul 3, 2012 9:45 am GMTSince when does any new game come with a trial...What is wrong with you people? Why is this being treated any different than any other game, ever??
MAYBE 5-15% of games (if that) have a demo...Which is generally 10-15 mins tops, and publishers are shying away from demos at a rapid pace...
Why would this game have a free trial at launch? That doesn't even make sense?
There's a website with tons of info and plenty of articles from various websites for you to base a decision on. It's only $50.00 (10 cheaper than 360 or PS3) and it comes with a free 30 days after that.
So what's the issue here?XBL: JKooch66
PSN: Kooch66
- Jul 3, 2012 10:27 am GMTkooch664 posted...
There's a website with tons of info and plenty of articles from various websites for you to base a decision on. It's only $50.00 (10 cheaper than 360 or PS3) and it comes with a free 30 days after that.
So what's the issue here?
A lot of people who want to try something to see if it's good are unwilling to put down $50 to find out. The whole point is to potentially save that money. Reading about a game will never be a substitute for playing it for yourself, because you can always disagree with what someone else thinks about the game. - Jul 3, 2012 10:30 am GMTkooch664 posted...
Since when does any new game come with a trial...What is wrong with you people? Why is this being treated any different than any other game, ever??
MAYBE 5-15% of games (if that) have a demo...Which is generally 10-15 mins tops, and publishers are shying away from demos at a rapid pace...
Why would this game have a free trial at launch? That doesn't even make sense?
There's a website with tons of info and plenty of articles from various websites for you to base a decision on. It's only $50.00 (10 cheaper than 360 or PS3) and it comes with a free 30 days after that.
So what's the issue here?
Yeah at least the many many other games that don't have a demo can at least be rented. It seems pretty stupid that an MMO developer can charge $60 for the game followed by a monthly fee.
If anything it should be a commitment of one month where you can pay $20 to try the full version then if you like it you have to activate it after a week or two and pay the full $50.
Why should people take a leap of faith and invest at least $70 into a game they may not like or may not even be fully polished?
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Keep/Kept the Faith! Forever a member of Red Sox Nation! - Jul 3, 2012 10:37 am GMTTo the last two posters, thank you.
I'm not negative on the game, it looks neat. I'm actually looking to try out some MMOs, I've been giving some F2P ones and trial games a go and been enjoying them. So I'm a prospective customer here. And I'm pretty frustrated that there's no way I can even try this game out. Most games have demos, or can be rented, so I don't really care if it's MMO standard to have no trial and cost $50 plus a subscription fee, as a prospective customer that's an immediate dealbreaker.
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Xbox GT: Ian Bits - Jul 3, 2012 10:52 am GMTMaybe they don't believe in their product enough and think the demo might turn people off just as much as it convinces people to buy the game?
Ever thought about that option...?
They'd rather have people buying the game blindly I guess based on hype\features\promises by the devs...
* I never played this game and have no opinion about it. But I HAVE bought\played Age of Conan when it launched and I basically don't trust Funcom much for anything. AOC launch was an abomination and on the verge of criminal.
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