The Last of Us - player choice and exploration Interview

 @jark888  @hippiesanta 

Dude, the time it takes me to download Angry Birds is more a AAA than RE6.

 @ryancyc  @ssj2los  @60fps You do realize that the only reason I got vocal about frame rate was because you and  Venom_Raptor decided to speak for everyone in saying that 60 fps isn't needed? I would've left that part alone if it wasn't for you guys being so snobby and acting like everyone should hold that opinion. I don't feel that way so I decided to explain my opinion on it and you took it as me saying that I look down to you all. I absolutely don't. I still use my consoles quite frequently and they're superb for parties whereas PC falls short in that category. It's just that frame rate holds a huge part in letting the game flow well which is crucial for me. It has absolutely nothing to do with graphics. 

Also, I actually do have a hard time watching action movies because of the low frame rate and it's the reason why I don't bother watching them as frequently. Same goes for games. Just please don't act like you're an expert on this stuff when I'm assuming that you don't have real solid experience with a gaming PC.

 @Grovilis  @ssj2los  @60fps 360/ps3 fanboys are just as annoying as PC elitists, maybe even more annoying since there's so much more of them. You're not elitists for preferring better performance, you're elitists for being very vocal about how much better your games look and run and having to remind console gamers of it. I've said it a million times, 60fps would be great for all games, completely smooth gameplay with no blur or anything, all the fast-paced action is clear, but you guys talk as if your head will explode from playing 30fps. Nothing wrong with preferring 60fps, in a perfect world everyone would prefer their games that way. If you have a multiplat game, console and PC, then good for you; choose PC. But what I'm saying is if you have an exclusive console game and you're going to be so picky about it that you wouldn't play it even if it was good, then you're being unreasonable. If you can handle movies not being in 60fps I'm pretty sure you wouldn't die from playing a game that's not 60fps either, but that's exactly what some PC players make it sound like.

@ryancyc@ssj2los@60fps

 No, I called you snobby for simply deciding for others what their opinion on games should be. It's no different than what extremist PC elitists say. As I told S4vagecabbage, video games are meant to be fun and "fun" is subjective. Some people get most of their joy out of standing in awe of a game's graphics, which is perfectly fine. For me, that's not a huge deal and if it was, my most anticipated game wouldn't be the indie game called Monaco which has 8-bit graphics. 

As I said in another comment, I have to wonder how many you guys have actual experience with 60 fps games. The difference is much more noticeable than minimal and really helps you to get into gameplay because it lets you see more of what's going on. 30 fps makes things look much more choppy and it's the reason why I wish movies had higher frame rates so that we could actually see in fine detail what is going on in these action scenes. I'm only bothering to explain this, BTW, because of how many people here simply think that PC gamers are elitists because of this. 

I can understand your aggravation towards these extremists who get in your face all of the time, but it's just as annoying when console gamers tell me how frame rate doesn't matter even though they probably have little to no experience with PC which gives them asbolutely no room to talk. Like I said before, I still plan on getting the game. I'm just waiting for a price drop. Also, I don't understand why PC gamers are always the ones to get called elitists. Xbox 360/PS3 players can be just as snobby to Nintendo Wii players. 

 @Grovilis  @ssj2los  @60fpsI never said it was objective that a game runs at 30fps, arguing about games is mostly subjective anyway. Like I said, 60fps would be great for everything but if you're going to pass up on a bunch of good, possibly amazing console games just because they don't perform as good as PC games then you're being an anal bead. it's funny you called me snobby for not being so picky, because the snobby people are the PC guys that refuse to play any console games and will only play games that are 1080/60. actually there's nothing wrong with preferring your games that way, but my problem is that PC guys can't just suck it up once in a while for some good exclusive console games and have to constantly state the obvious that console games run a bit "worse" and that their system runs games the best. It's like a film watcher who refuses to watch classic or great films, just because they're not blu ray. Just suck it up and stop being so picky, because for now the only chance to play this game is on PS3.

 @ryancyc  @ssj2los  @60fps 

 "what he was saying is that console games running at 30fps are completely fine and really nothing to complain about."

That's entirely subjective and you'd be flat out wrong to state otherwise. Ever since I got my PC, I have grown accustom to playing my games at a solid 60 frames per second and playing anything below that is jarring and really breaks the flow for me. Saying that this opinion doesn't matter is incredibly snobby of you. Granted, I still plan on getting the game. I'm just going to wait for a price drop because of it. 

 @Grovilis  @ssj2los  @60fps He's insinuating it, by saying he wouldn't touch a game that is, god forbid, 720p/30fps and will only play a game if it's 1080p/60fps, which is only possible on PC of course. and obviously throwing in the fun fact that his ps3 is collecting dust which has nothing to do with anything, unless to imply that it's not good enough for him. sure, who wouldn't love to have 1080p and 60fps for all games, but if you seriously can't play a console game that's already 720p and some motion blur just because it's 30fps then you're being unreasonably anal. Venom_raptor never said anything about ps3 games running at 60fps. what he was saying is that console games running at 30fps are completely fine and really nothing to complain about.

@S4vagecabbage@Venom_Raptor@ssj2los

"Sometimes a high framerate improves things but remember ladies and gents, the human eye really only recognizes this when things are slowed down."

I don't know where you heard that, but it's the other way around. Noticing higher frame rate is mostly noticeable in FAST moving scenes. It's the reason why first person shooters typically require that extra performance boost.

Regardless, though. Noticing the difference between 30 fps and 60 fps isn't hard at all and I don't understand where this myth came along. I have to wonder how many of you actually have solid experience with a gaming PC and, if you don't, you really don't have much room to talk about this (I'm trying to say this as nice as I can).

Now look. I have absolutely NO problem playing games with low tier graphics. If it did bother me, I my most anticipated game of the year wouldn't be the indie game called Monaco (I'll post the video down below).

What DOES bother me is low frame rate and, again, it's absolutely noticeable. It's simply not debatable unless you have some solid experience with it. A lot of people simply don't care, but I do, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Lastly, I'm not telling ANYONE that their platform of choice is wrong. I'm simply getting aggravated at how many people get on their high horse whenever someone even hints at disliking their platform of choice. It's mindbogglingly ridiculous to practically tell someone that their taste in games is simply wrong.

Games are meant to be fun and "fun" is subjective. There is no set rule.

*sigh* anyway, here's the game I was talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToocuwtZc5w

 @Grovilis  @Venom_Raptor  @ssj2los

 Heh...fellow gamers, consoles and pc game producers need to either step back for a second or continue to sit on their arse refusing to watch this industry get flushed down the friggin' toilet. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate good graphics but they ain't the most important thing. Emerssive and/or enthralling gameplay is where it's at. Sometimes a high framerate improves things but remember ladies and gents, the human eye really only recognizes this when things are slowed down. (We'll see who understands the ribbing there) 30 fps is enough, they'll just need to worry about the amount they'll be animating at once on screen. If they're legit tapping out with this level of hardware's framerate then don't just jump to the next level! First, figure out society's attention span, observe how these "hardcore" gamers all show symptoms of ADD. Then realize the effect of the constant slow motion crap is having on us. Please try to remember that we, the gamers, don't all have the time or the money to buy new hardware for meager visual improvements...come on lads...gameplay...