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Icehound2

Jan 30, 2013 8:05 pm GMT
Last I saw her was fighting the Necromancer boss at Mount Kilkreath for Meridia's quest. I don't remember seeing her die, but she's not showing up anywhere...not Dragonsreach (I don't have a home yet), and waiting for days on end doesn't seem to work.

I used the console code to teleport to her. Sure enough, it was the Necromancer room in Mount Kilkreath...however, all I found was her shield lying on the ground (I gave her Ysgramar's Shield). Also when I try to pick up the shield, it's labeled as 'stolen.' Wtf?
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Tai_Le_Ree

Jan 30, 2013 8:08 pm GMT
She's alive.
If you teleported to her and she was dead you'd be in limbo.
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Icehound2

Jan 30, 2013 8:09 pm GMT
Well wtf happened to her? Should I just keep...waiting? And why the heck would her shield (which is MINE but apparently illegal to take now) just be lying on the ground?
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Knighted_Dragon

Jan 30, 2013 8:17 pm GMT
How do you find the code to teleport to her? I lost my Lydia a LONG time ago and she's not anywhere. Help Lydia 4 gives the wrong ID to teleport to her apparently. I know you can look on the Wiki but isn't there a way to find this crap out yourself in the game?
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Icehound2

Jan 30, 2013 8:17 pm GMT
player.moveto a2c94
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Slakr

Jan 30, 2013 8:18 pm GMT
Sounds like your game just glitched somehow. Why don't you try teleporting her to you?
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Icehound2

Jan 30, 2013 8:22 pm GMT
How do I do that?

I used the placeatme code for her...but it's a "fresh" copy...meaning when I talked to her, she introduced herself as my house carl. Odder still is when I picked up Ysgramar's Shield, she said, "You must really need that..." since it's marked as 'Steal.' Does she normally say this when she's not your follower and you steal something near her, or is the game thinking Lydia now "owns" the shield??
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Icehound2

Jan 30, 2013 8:41 pm GMT
ok this is weird...I teleported her to me, and it's her corpse that is now sitting right in front of me. I guess she did indeed die somehow in the temple. Well...at least there's a corpse I can resurrect now...

For her welcome back celebration I crafted her a full-clad suit of Dwarven Armor w/ shield (it's my highest Smithing perk atm), and granted her Dawnbringer.
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DaGreatOnelol

Jan 31, 2013 12:19 am GMT
Icehound2 posted...
ok this is weird...I teleported her to me, and it's her corpse that is now sitting right in front of me. I guess she did indeed die somehow in the temple. Well...at least there's a corpse I can resurrect now...

For her welcome back celebration I crafted her a full-clad suit of Dwarven Armor w/ shield (it's my highest Smithing perk atm), and granted her Dawnbringer.

yeah she does better when players give her better armor. Nice...
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Freyon

Jan 31, 2013 1:12 am GMT
Just don't do what I did...

*Gives Dawnbreaker to follower*
*Is a vampire.*
Dr4G0nZ

Jan 31, 2013 1:42 am GMT
I think you can use placeatme to place her around you, but don't quote me, I'm honestly not entirely sure..
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Slakr

Jan 31, 2013 2:14 am GMT
From: Icehound2 | #007
How do I do that?

You seem to have figured it out, but for those who don't know how to teleport an NPC to them:

Using Lydia's RefID
prid a2c94
moveto player

From: Dr4G0nZ | #011
I think you can use placeatme to place her around you

Placeatme creates a clone, so don't use it.

From: Icehound2 | #007
Odder still is when I picked up Ysgramar's Shield, she said, "You must really need that..." since it's marked as 'Steal.' Does she normally say this when she's not your follower and you steal something near her, or is the game thinking Lydia now "owns" the shield?

I don't know how that happened, either, but I do know how to fix it. Open the console and click on the shield, then enter setownership.
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Rthan

Jan 31, 2013 7:07 am GMT
I love this board, I am seeing a lot more love for Lydia here. Having played Skyrim orignally for the 360 for over 600 hours (between 2 characters, 1 =400, and the 2nd logged 200). All I ever saw on youtube, and the talk in the 360 board was how awesome it was to kill Lydia.

Whether it be their favorite deaht for her (Fus Ro Dah off the Throat of the World), or something as stupid as them going into Breezehome while and NPC was talking to them (which zones them in with you), accuse Lydia of being a hussy, and killing her.

To me she was sepcial, since most characters and especially followers were ugly or weak, or both, Lydia was great to me, especially after I learned the Wabbajack trick to lv her up, the only one I ever replaced her with once in a while was Jordis. But the fact that Lydia was my first follower meant she always had a special place in my heart.

I am suprised that all we get is retextures and changing her race/class as far as mods for her go. Those people that are really good at making scripted followers (Cerwiden, Vilja, Hoth, Valfar, The Afflicted, Avres, etc) should try to make a "new and improved" Lydia smart follower.

Basically you meet her the same way, but she is a smarter fighter, you can adjust her fighting style, give her some spells, some shouts, more conversations, make her more chatty to other followers (if you have UFO or other follower overhauls that allow you to have more followers)
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Kaushad

Jan 31, 2013 7:36 am GMT
1. install ufo
2. You are important
3.Profit.
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Icehound2

Jan 31, 2013 10:31 am GMT
Yeah I feel guilt since I like to roleplay and using a 'resurrect' cheat is sorta cheating. But in my defense I never saw her die in the temple, so it's not my fault. Malcareth was obliterating me with spells (I knew I should have just kited the archers out of the room first), so I was spamming healing pots like crazy while swinging my sword like a maniac. I must have accidentally hit her during the frenzy and didn't even see it. I would have just reloaded had I seen her die. As for the shield, I just spawned a new one. Didn't feel like going all the way back to the temple to an earlier save (I'm using the console either way you look at it).

Now to make things worse, I can't activate the Flame of the Harbinger to cure my Beast Blood. Beth did such a great job at fixing bugs in this game. Never had I needed to make so many different save files...

Also, you used the code:

prid a2c94
moveto player

I used 'a2c94.moveto player.' Is that the same thing?
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Icehound2

Jan 31, 2013 10:38 am GMT
Meh...maybe I'll just disable her. That will relinquish the guilt of giving her "2 lives." It'll be like Conan losing Valeria in the first movie, his first love (hadn't proposed to Lydia yet but I was going to). My barb will now either have to fall in love with Aela or the house carl from Solitude, whatever her name is...the "blonde Lydia."

Should I use the 'disable' code on Lydia or should I use 'kill?' Is that a huge difference at all?
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Slakr

Jan 31, 2013 2:37 pm GMT
From: Icehound2 | #015
prid a2c94
moveto player

I used 'a2c94.moveto player.' Is that the same thing?

Yeah. I just prefer to use prid so that the NPC is "selected" in the console. That way, if I need to use further commands (i.e. resurrect and/or enable), I only have to keep typing commands.

Edit: I would use both kill and disable commands (in that order).
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Icehound2

Jan 31, 2013 2:51 pm GMT
Slakr posted...
From: Icehound2 | #015
prid a2c94
moveto player

I used 'a2c94.moveto player.' Is that the same thing?

Yeah. I just prefer to use prid so that the NPC is "selected" in the console. That way, if I need to use further commands (i.e. resurrect and/or enable), I only have to keep typing commands.

Edit: I would use both kill and disable commands (in that order).

Oh, so that's what 'prid' does. Thanks for the advice!
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Icehound2

Feb 1, 2013 8:47 am GMT
ugh...'kill' doesn't work on Lydia. It just makes her fall and crawl around like she was defeated in an NPC battle. I just disabled her.
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Icehound2

Feb 2, 2013 12:14 pm GMT
Oh for crap's sakes. I finally got Jordis and whenever I ask her to follow me she says I've already got someone. I guess Lydia's ghost has been with me this whole time. I had to create her, tell her to part ways, and then disable her again.
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