I honestly think that Xillia 1 is better than 2.

truesper2 posted...

Not to fan any flames, but you people are nuts. :-) Xillia 2 is an incredibly boring rehash of Xillia, with barely any new content. It has *one* real new dungeon that is actually fun (the canyon ruins). Xillia 2's battles are more fun than Xillia, but still worse than Graces.

Xillia 2's plot is thin, the quests are generic, and everything is recycled. Xillia 1's plot was lame, and everything was rushed. Both game are terrible. :-)

(At least Milla is sexy though. :-)

Graces having a better battle system is up to opinion, I find that Graces is one of the more dull and slow systems in the series.

Compare a Sophie Combo Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYLagiQ_xNA

To a Leia combo video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvAjf9w0Jt0

The only character in Graces who has combos that are fairly interesting is Hubert (His are actually pretty badass)

and even with that None of them can even come anywhere close to Ludger:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X6fXbY0TtM

And you say Xillia 2 has a thin plot and the quests are Generic...

Graces does all of these worse, Graces has one of the worst plots I've seen in a Tales game and almost every quest in Graces comes down to: Get item>Bring Item to inn>and there will OCCASIONALLY be a small scene after.

And the cameo battle too, Graces has the least memorable battles in the series, Solomus was easy, the Cameo battle was a Joke, the only memorable part of the Fodra Queen fight was Blue Earth, hell, the only fight in the game that was even slightly difficult on chaos was Lambda Theos and even then it wasn't legitimate difficulty, it was just based on whether he decided to spam shooting stars or not.
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Dragon Quest 7 posted...

Xillia 1s final dungeon can't even be classified as a dungeon

Still better than this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/672891-tales-of-xillia-2/64809867

I'll give you that one, Xillia 1 and 2 both had horrible final dungeons.

Xillia's sucked because it was a long boring Hallway.

Xillia 2's sucked because it was fake length (Luck based)

Silvorzya posted...

You forgot Kurt....god damn Kurt was a jerk for the majority of people. If you don't use Cheria's Alluring Temptress trick, Enter the Dragons Trial in Trial of Graces can be quite tough, and at the very least pretty long to do.

I don't really get why so many people hated Kurt, I read about him and when I got to him a was like: "Oh **** this is gonna be hard" and I was dissapointed at how easy he was (I was wondering if there was a second fight with him later in the game at first)

I forgot about Enter the Dragons, granted that is pretty difficult (Probably the most fun I had with a battle in that game.)

buffy720 posted...

As a Tales of fan, one should never look to bash another entry in the series just to make their own favorite look better. They all have importance within the series. Even with my dislike of Abyss, I know it did a lot of things right for people who aren't me.

Also, ha at Graces f having a slow and dull battle system. :/

I'm not bashing Graces, I like the game very much; more than Vesperia even (Well... Vesperia 360 anyway) I just don't understand why it gets so much praise, the battle system is one of the slowest imho I think Symphonia, is a bit slower (Because the Arte levels get repetitive, as well as the original versions of Phantasia and Destiny (because of that stupid "Spell Animations Freezing Battles" thing)

I don't find that CC speeds up gameplay (Maybe Graces utilized it poorly and Destiny R does better) I find that it does nothing but slow it down (Being able to link any artes together is nice, but the fact that basic attacks went in Trees and costed 10 CC to use a simple combo isn't something I like) I wasn't a big fan of how broken evade was and how easy it was to manipulate.

I looked at Destiny R gameplay... Damn, that looks badass, looking at CC there next to Graces is like watching a superman wrestle against a wet napkin, (I wish I was able to play it)

And Graces DID have a fairly poor story (I did make it sound to be worse than it is,) but it is one of the poorer entries if going by story alone. (And he said Xillia 2 had a "thin plot" and "generic sidequests" when he went on to praise Graces; ignoring its flaws completely.

Again, I don't understand why Graces' battle system gets so much praise. Maybe it's because it's the first Localized game that uses CC, maybe because it's the first game localized in a while, who knows, I like the game plenty and I don't mind if others <333333333333 it, but I do think it does get more praise than it deserves.
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Marioak posted...

Graces is almost as fast as Destiny R >_>
And Graces CC is more balance then Destiny to begin with. 15CC is already insane broken in Destiny.

Saying Graces is slow is pretty much mean Xillia battle is fast as walking turtle.
The only actual "slow" in Graces is your characters normal movement speed. Most likely just to balance with sidestep/backstep/critical guard which is faster to move but cost CC.

I'm sorry, but I don't find it fast. The CC total being higher means it takes longer to recharge so I spend more time standing around waiting for it to recharge (Even at end game)

I do like it's multiplayer (And it's probably the most fun in the series if you get 4 competent people together to play multiplayer)
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