Forums › Star Wars: The Old Republic Forum › Star Wars: The Old Republic PC Forum › How Difficult are the Tier 1 Hardmode Fl ...

How Difficult are the Tier 1 Hardmode Flash Points with Tionese Gear?

« prev next »

Page:

This topic is now read-only on GameSpot.
To post new messages, please visit GameFAQs and log in using the same email and password that you use on GameSpot.

InfestedAdam

Feb 1, 2013 7:37 am GMT
Yay back before we got free Tionese gear for reaching level 50 I only ran Hardmode Black Talon as it was the only thing I was comfortable with given my experience and gear level.

Fast forward to now I got my character in full Tionese from the free Commendation and am trying to replace the rest of my gear with items of similar rating.

However, despite queuing as a healer it still seems to take a while to get a group and probably even more so since I'm queuing for only one Flash Point. I'm also missing out on the bonus Black Hole Commendations.

Can having Tionese gear somewhat makeup for my lack of experience with the other Tier 1 Flash Points?

Comments and suggestions are appreciated,

Thank you
---
"You must gather your party before venturing forth"
"Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!"
SlightlySycho

Feb 1, 2013 7:46 am GMT
You should be fine. Originally, HM Flash Points existed so people could acquire Tionese gear and do Story Mode Operations.
---
Sychotic Quote for the Whenever: "Don't think I'll go easy on you just because you're a dog."
InfestedAdam

Feb 1, 2013 7:52 am GMT
Thanks for the quick reply, it's because at the time my character was not geared enough to do even regular...Directive 7 I think it was?

So I'm concern how well I can handle the Hardmode version even if I'm in Tionese gear.

But if all the Tier 1 Hardmode are tuned to people below Tionese gear then maybe I won't have any issues.
---
"You must gather your party before venturing forth"
"Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!"
K4P_Link

Feb 1, 2013 7:53 am GMT
Yea. You kinda have to do those if you want columi other then from ops.
Pteran

Feb 1, 2013 8:54 am GMT
The HM's are laughably easy. You really should be queuing up for all of the tier 1's to get your Black Hole comms. After that feel free to queue up for only the ones you want to run. Just don't waste your time running Black Talon all day long...

When you get into the group, please let them know you've never run the instance before. They'll be able to catch you up on any mechanics you need to know.
---
"Im talking about 2 hits. I hit you, you hit the floor."- Keenan
zumri

Feb 1, 2013 11:36 am GMT
I would suggest getting in to a Guild. I'm a DPS so my Queue times are slower than you and I was stuck in Tionese Gear for a while. I got in to a PVE Guild yesterday, we ran about 4 HMs and EV SM in my Tionese Gear. I was able to keep up, and I was able to acquire a mix of Columi and Rakata by the end of the night. And a Black Hole Earpiece. We are going to run through some more today.

So, I suggest you get in to a friendly PVE Guild that can help you. You will Queue in faster, and you will be able to have some people that you will start knowing rather than some random people that won't be looking out for you.
---
Zumri, Killing Topics Since 2002.Unlovable.
GamerTag : Slain Forgotten
maxpowr3

Feb 1, 2013 2:19 pm GMT
SlightlySychotic posted...
You should be fine. Originally, HM Flash Points existed so people could acquire Tionese gear and do Story Mode Operations.

Nope. The sad reality was, it was easier to actually acquire columi items than it was to farm Tionese gear. It came down to knowing which FP dropped the piece of gear you needed.

The only two tier-1 flashpoints I found difficult were Battle of Ilum and Directive7. False Emperor is kind of hard [mostly the last boss] but the rest should be quite easy.
---
Sammed - Prophecy of the Five
MajinUltima

Feb 2, 2013 6:38 am GMT
Recruit Mk2 >>>>>> Tionese, and you get a free set as well. There's no reason to ever use Tionese anymore.
---
Homura-chan is the coolest.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8901/homura03.jpg
Jules_Rules

Feb 2, 2013 7:00 am GMT
maxpowr3 posted...
SlightlySychotic posted...
You should be fine. Originally, HM Flash Points existed so people could acquire Tionese gear and do Story Mode Operations.

Nope. The sad reality was, it was easier to actually acquire columi items than it was to farm Tionese gear. It came down to knowing which FP dropped the piece of gear you needed.

The only two tier-1 flashpoints I found difficult were Battle of Ilum and Directive7. False Emperor is kind of hard [mostly the last boss] but the rest should be quite easy.

Battle of Ilum is even easier than Black Talon. I do BT a lot to farm social points and I've seen party members get 1 hit KO'd on the last boss. I guess they don't escape the cyclone pull in ability thing quick enough.

Ilum, if I remember right you can skip every boss except the last one.
---
http://i34.tinypic.com/wtauc7.gif
XBL & PSN: OMGFather
Deaths_Blade

Feb 2, 2013 8:25 am GMT
TC, my first HardMode flashpoint was Battle for Ilum, and immediately aftewards I did the False Emperor. It was my first outing with Tionese gear, and it was **** easy.

Seriously, you will be fine with everything up to and include FE if you have all the Tionese gear already.

However, don't jump straight to Kaon. That and Lost Island are the only flashpoints I had any real trouble with. Once with that ****ing gun emplacement on Kaon and the 2nd boss on Lost Island. Both are pretty hard, so try the "mainstream" flashpoints first.
---
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it - Thomas Paine: The American Crisis IV
maxpowr3

Feb 2, 2013 1:08 pm GMT
That must have nerfed the hell out of battle of Ilum then. Last time I did it in 1.1, it was pretty difficult. I don't get why people think koan is hard. If your tank sucks in that FP, you have no chance in beating it.
---
Sammed - Prophecy of the Five
NeoSamuel

Feb 2, 2013 10:30 pm GMT
With the exeption of Kaon. You should be fine in Tionese gear.
---
Im Black Mage. I cast spells that make people fall down.
Deaths_Blade

Feb 3, 2013 12:45 am GMT
maxpowr3 posted...
That must have nerfed the hell out of battle of Ilum then. Last time I did it in 1.1, it was pretty difficult. I don't get why people think koan is hard. If your tank sucks in that FP, you have no chance in beating it.

Perhaps, but I define "easy" as one where there isn't a complete party wipeout. I died once or twice as the tank, but the entire party never got wiped.

As for Kaon, just took a little practice and experience.
---
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it - Thomas Paine: The American Crisis IV
AgentReborn

Feb 3, 2013 3:24 am GMT
Lost Island is really the bar-setter imo. If you can run that, you're ready for Ops
---
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1935601/hynoski2.gif
Deaths_Blade

Feb 3, 2013 7:54 am GMT
AgentReborn posted...
Lost Island is really the bar-setter imo. If you can run that, you're ready for Ops

Agreed. Lost Island is the hardest flashpoint, even with Tionese Gear. But if you can consistently beat that, then you're probably ready for ops.
---
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it - Thomas Paine: The American Crisis IV
The_Rob

Feb 3, 2013 9:10 am GMT
I'm a new 50, and I've done HM EC and KP, (so I'm almost completely Rakata or better) but after 4 attempts, I've been unable to finish Lost Island. First time I couldn't get past the droid, second and third times the tank and healer bailed after the first wipe, 4th time I got 3 really good ppl (from same guild) and we got all the way to Lorrick but I couldn't get the debuff dodge figured out. It was 3am so I'm going to blame it on being tired until I get another shot at it.

The point of my post: I think Lost Island is harder than the first two OPs because those battles mechanics are brutal. Haven't done Denova yet, but hopefully soon.
---
whatnow12012 posted...
I am not the same person as Whatnow or whatever his or hers name.
Jules_Rules

Feb 3, 2013 11:03 am GMT
The Rob posted...
I'm a new 50, and I've done HM EC and KP, (so I'm almost completely Rakata or better) but after 4 attempts, I've been unable to finish Lost Island. First time I couldn't get past the droid, second and third times the tank and healer bailed after the first wipe, 4th time I got 3 really good ppl (from same guild) and we got all the way to Lorrick but I couldn't get the debuff dodge figured out. It was 3am so I'm going to blame it on being tired until I get another shot at it.

The point of my post: I think Lost Island is harder than the first two OPs because those battles mechanics are brutal. Haven't done Denova yet, but hopefully soon.

The debuff can be purged. After we figured that out we managed to beat it. Really fun FP once you get the mechanics down.
---
http://i34.tinypic.com/wtauc7.gif
XBL & PSN: OMGFather
maxpowr3

Feb 3, 2013 1:25 pm GMT
Deaths_Blade posted...
AgentReborn posted...
Lost Island is really the bar-setter imo. If you can run that, you're ready for Ops

Agreed. Lost Island is the hardest flashpoint, even with Tionese Gear. But if you can consistently beat that, then you're probably ready for ops.

I wouldn't suggest doing LI HM unless you are at least full columni. If you're guild is carrying you through HM LI, they should be carrying you through "triple deuce" for the weekly and getting free rakata.
---
Sammed - Prophecy of the Five
Deaths_Blade

Feb 3, 2013 1:56 pm GMT
maxpowr3 posted...
Deaths_Blade posted...
AgentReborn posted...
Lost Island is really the bar-setter imo. If you can run that, you're ready for Ops

Agreed. Lost Island is the hardest flashpoint, even with Tionese Gear. But if you can consistently beat that, then you're probably ready for ops.

I wouldn't suggest doing LI HM unless you are at least full columni. If you're guild is carrying you through HM LI, they should be carrying you through "triple deuce" for the weekly and getting free rakata.

Disagree. I did all of them in hard mode except KUS and LI with half Tionese gear, the last two were ****ing difficult though, but certainly possible. They weren't guild runs either, group finder with similar characters.
---
Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it - Thomas Paine: The American Crisis IV
maxpowr3

Feb 3, 2013 4:59 pm GMT
Deaths_Blade posted...
maxpowr3 posted...
Deaths_Blade posted...
AgentReborn posted...
Lost Island is really the bar-setter imo. If you can run that, you're ready for Ops

Agreed. Lost Island is the hardest flashpoint, even with Tionese Gear. But if you can consistently beat that, then you're probably ready for ops.

I wouldn't suggest doing LI HM unless you are at least full columni. If you're guild is carrying you through HM LI, they should be carrying you through "triple deuce" for the weekly and getting free rakata.

Disagree. I did all of them in hard mode except KUS and LI with half Tionese gear, the last two were ****ing difficult though, but certainly possible. They weren't guild runs either, group finder with similar characters.

My point is, you got carried HARD!!!

We tried to carry a tank who was a fresh 50 and we were in full campaign gear and we couldn't get past the first boss in HM LI. Reckon once we dumped him and got someone somewhat geared, it was very easily doable. I am sure we could have carried a mediocre DPS but since he was a tank, wasn't gonna happen.

As I have said, Koan is 90% tank issues especially with the second boss. A good chunk of the time, I will die on the last boss because I will pull aggro.
---
Sammed - Prophecy of the Five