Escape From Mount Stupid: Handhelds
- Feb 23, 2012
Danny takes a look at the history of handheld games consoles and ponders their future, considering the meteoric rise of smartphone gaming.
Ah... you didn't reference the "augmented reality" feature of the Vita. Just figured this might be a big point for the new gen of handhelds. Either way this show is great, keep it up. It's nice to get more info on games and consoles instead of just the companies telling us how great their products are going to be. Thanks!
Nintendo DS = biggest selling console portable or not. Portable still has a place and will for a while:)
You make these Escape From Mount Stupid episodes hilarious, awesome, and fun to watch over and over, Danny O'Dwyer. Keep up the great work, I look forward to the next one! And I disagree about one thing, the Sega Nomad. Yes it ate AA batteries horribly, yes the rechargeable battery was not much better, yes it was heavy, probably even heavier than my Genesis, but I still loved it!
its a more complete new approach towards the hand held gaming devices, sony on the other hand i am a more console based H.C player, hand held device such as psvita is good considering the new types of games that has come out, but the only down turn is the price of these games because it is very much similar to other ps3 great games in the market.
Well, I had an Exclusive Metal Gear on my N-gage Nokia phone before. But yep, Serious Handhelds are still better.
phones will never replace serious portable gaming. anyone ever tried playing Devil may Cry, Sims 3 or Megaman on their phone? then you know how useless the touch screen controls are. it takes the fun out of the game. phones are only good for games like bejeweled and angry birds, something you can play for 5 mins when you are bored and thats it.
i think the world needs a break from handhelds, or stop entirely due to phone apps. A break at least, since that's basically what we did after gameboy and sega game gear.
I believe the reason why handhelds have been substituted out by smart phones is because of the time and place that you play with these devices. When at home it's a lot more comfortable if you're a serious gamer to play on your consoles and when you're out you're never going to have time for a 20 hour game and you just want something to pass the time and it is for these reasons that handheld systems will not prosper in today's market.
I like the new name for the show. It's much better then the old one...what ever that was. I've got my eye on the Ps Vita, but only to see if the price will drop.
I don't think a dedicated device will survive long enough. Just like the job market, if you focus too much on a certain skill, how are you going to make yourself marketable outside the company? Phones capable of gaming and social interaction will be the next best thing. PS Vita, though is great and full of potential, I don't think it's going to change the minds of casual gamers who are used to play cut the rope or angry birds.
Here is the simple thing. Handheld gaming and smartphone gaming are TWO DIFFERENT things. when you compare the 2 and the prices you are forgetting that smartphone gaming does not offer you the same experience. Handheld will offer you complete 20 hour games which are more fun and have more depth. smartphones games like angry birds or cut the rope are simple games meant to be cheap and simple, but fun. they are two different markets. even games like nova or other gameloft titles cannot be compared to handheld games, cuz they are short and limited in gameplay. Comparing handheld to smartphone is like comparing a mansion to a bungalow. You pay more, but it's worth it.
when cellphones get awesome games as the current and past generations handleds then we talk the cellphones games are only used when ure in a bathroom, waiting on some line,etc, the real handleds are when uare travelling, even when uare at home, the replay value, the quality and even controls are too inferior in cellphones
I can see the argument for cell phones/smart phones taking some of the market share from dedicated mobile game consoles. But, look at me. I really like playing video games. I have a desktop PC at home that I use 90% of the time to play games. I also own a PS3, but I like the PC better. Now I want a mobile game system. iPhone is fine but really doesn't have an ideal controller setup. A laptop isn't going to be THAT mobile and won't give me the desktop power that PC games really need. So I bought a PS Vita. I paid a lot for it, I think it's worth the price premium and it is what I wanted from a mobile gaming device.
This whole argument about whether or not smartphone will or won't totally replace traditional handheld gaming devices seems to be missing a step: if everyone truly does start looking to smartphones for portable games isn't it pretty likely that Nintendo and Sony will start combining their new devices with smartphone-like capabilities? Just look at the Vita, with all of it's 3G tech, which is accessible through Verizon. Heck, if you look at it a certain way, it even looks a little like a smartphone. My point is, if smartphones are the future, gaming companies will always be right with the trend.
@Bog101 I am well aware that you can call people with a smartphone. However, keep in mind I said "capable of" not "doing". 3DS has a microphone, and some games (such as Pokemon) let you have live chats with people. It wouldn't be a big step to just have an application for doing so. Also, handheld gaming has merged with phones before, such as the "taco" thing around the 4:45 mark in the video.
I like playing games that are similar to the console version on a handheld, but sadly it isn't what most people want out of a handheld. Cell phones will take over the handheld market completely, and that is sad.
marty2004, not really man, unless cell phones become epic and buy out Nintendo, Sony and eveyone else, higlhy unlikly.... plus who would sign to who??? To much work and too much money.
I agree, cell phones will definetly replace all the dedicated portable game consoles. 250$ for the psvita......way to expensive. + don't forget the price of the memory sticks.
Here's my opinion about all this: unfortunately cell phones will get on top. These phones used to be simple and mostly used as... phones. Now, these babies pack nearly as much power as a nex gen portable console. I've seen really cool looking games on the iPhone. Sadly, not too many people will be able to shed out 249$ out of their pockets for gaming purposes only and the thing (PsVita) will surely stagger some time before drowning like it's older brother: The PSPGo.
ahahah the best part is at the end, and com'on you ate a potato!? really... and after you drink beer? Crazy dude you should be in Guinness to with this awesome video/info you show us here. Thank you!
little do they know....LEPRICONS DO NOT EXIST!!!!(stupid stereotypes)....Lol...I had Super Famicom, Gameboy, Gameboy Sp, Nintendo DSi and PSP....so I can really relate to handheld games......
so many Handhelds brands, most of them failed down to the ground! hope to see a video about it, cheers
I hope the Vita drops it's price as soon as possible in order to survive and pick up sales. It is an incredible gaming unit that doesn't necessarily need to be played on the go. It can just as easily be played at and enjoyed at home. Touchscreen controlled games on the smartphone can really suck, which is where the handhelds blow them away. Especially a 5 inch OLED dual sticked powerhouse like the Vita. The Vita is in this game for the long haul, not just for the first 6 months. When all is said and done it will prove to be one impressive unit
This guy is pretty good actually. Never watched any of his videos before. GS should make his vids easier to find
Almost cried at 5:53 when I saw the Enzo that duude wrecked, but seriously how do you break an enzo in half and walk away unscathed.
sony and nintendo put nails in their own coffins by failing to place enough emphasis on the social elements of their devices. the 3ds' letterbox is fun, but a free messaging service to rival bbm and imessage would appeal to a much, MUCH broader market (which, let's face it, it's what they want). the form would've been chunky, but they could've taken off their gloves and easily added an actual phone to their gaming machines. it's only a matter of time before apple roll out a controller attachment for the ipad/iphone/ipod/mac and tighten their grasp on the mobile gaming market.
@lesslinger71 very interesting analysis. But I don't know if the cost the publisher pays per platform applies for mobile touch devices like android and iphone. I read somewhere a publisher pays hardware coys like Microsoft & Sony for deploying games on their platforms (upfront, which means they lose if they don't break even in sales). so that would justify the cheap price.
Love the show, though I'm not feeling the new title. Of course, I can't think of anything Danny O'Dwyer has done that I to build your scanner into your printer and copier. My smartphone does a ridiculous amount of stuff and, if I was willing, has tons of games. There's nothing to stop Limbo, Braid, Alien Hominid, and thousands of other games from being ported in, particularly if there were an ergonomic bluetooth controller that was cheap, easy to program for, and widely adopted. We're not there yet, but we're closer than ever.
[quote="hull20004"]The thing i hate about apple and modern mobiles is the lack of buttons. I need precise control over my game and think that mobile games is a passing trend and a general waste of time. If you get a need to prove me wrong give me ONE GAME THAT HAS STORY AND GOOD CONTROLS ON A TOUCHSCREEN (also 3+ game hours).[/quote] @hull20004 - I've found Illusia and Zenonia to have excellent simulated D-Pads and action buttons. I didn't really want to believe it, but they're quite good.
HE LOOKS LIKE A DUMB A.. TO ME. BESIDES, WHY IS HE POSTING THIS VIDEO IN A VIDEOGAME WEB PAGE. I LOVE MY 3DS AND VITA. DON'T LIKE THIS GUY
My (Stolen from my car) PSP was awesome! Loved it played it bought UMD's for it. My PSP GO is cool kinda small for my big hands play alot of puzzle games with it, Luxor, Etc. Our DS Lites and DS XL see constant steady and thank you God for keeping the twins busy use. 3DS are you kidding me go back to the store after shelling out for an XL and pay more for a tiny screen!? Never! (Hate 3D down to my core!) I am an app junky so i use my iPhone alot. Wouldn't play a shooter on any of these except the PSP. That said the new Vita looks like it has promise would be nice to know if I can count on FPS's for it. The price is over the top! I am gonna wait and see it on DVD! I mean wait to see if it comes down a bit.
I don't believe dedicated gaming machines will be replaced. There are few things that Sony and Nintendo seem to overlook, and it's that portable gaming is definitely the future. People don't want to be restrained to their living rooms, like the telephone went from being wired in the living room, to cordless, and now wireless. Although you have your dedicated fans who will pay $40 for portable game occasionally, why not learn from the mobile giants and sell your games for much affordable price. If you could sell 1 million copies for $40, don't you think you could sell twice that if you cut the price in half? You're really not losing any money, but gaining more fans. I think greed plays a huge part in the costs of the videogames to the public. Dungeon hundred for the PS Vita is a perfect example. You can buy the exact same game for your iPad for seven dollars, which also comes with 3G multiplayer, but the PS Vita version costs $40, has less features, and you can't even play online wherever you go because of the 20 MB download cap. How can a play anywhere, play any time machine limit its customers to Wi-Fi. This doesn't seem to portable if he asked me. I just hope Sony learns from others' mistakes before it's too late.
portable games are awesome devices, I have my Psp my DS lite and 3Ds, this devices have nice games like GoW Resistance Super Mario Zelda Ninja Gaiden Twisted metal and a lot more it cant be compare with the PS3 or X360 or even the Wii but they give us the chance of spend time on the bank or the Hospital or others borring places with some entertainment. So Nintendo have always the lead on portable games and I hope that continue forever
I don't think mobile gaming compares to actual dedicated gaming devices. Sure, in the train or while waiting for friends somewhere it's nice to take ten minutes and play some plants vs zombies or something but, unlike with actual handhelds, I wouldn't just sit on the couch or lay in my bed on a lazy saturday morning playing games on my phone.. Basically if I weren't broke every month I'd probably buy one.. once the price drops.
@hahahasan I think the rate at which phones get replaced by new tech is a weakness,not a strength. They cost as much as a gaming device,often times more,and in order to keep up with the latest tech and newest games,you'd have to drop that kind of cash yearly.A dedicated device is something you buy once,and you can play all the newest games for several years,and you can keep using it for decades to come,even after the device is no longer supported. I've still got my GBA SP,and every now and again,I boot it up for old time's sake. Can't do that with a phone. Heck,you can barely get a phone to last longer than your 2 year contract.
Love the show. But the handheld market needs no revitalizing. The DS just recently became the best selling game device of all time,the 3DS is finally hitting its stride(both during the advance of smartphones and tabs),and with any luck,Sony will be right and the Vita will be more popular here in the West than in Japan. I don't know why in the face of dedicated gamers saying,"No,we want to play our REAL games," and sales like those of the DS, places like Gamespot are talking about the demise of the dedicated handheld as if it's already happened.Handhelds are alive and kicking!